Omnibus Edward Snowden Thread

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It's hard to tell how serious he is because in the recording he's kind of chuckling, but Ron Paul told a Fox Business interviewer Tuesday, "I'm worried about somebody in our government might kill him with a cruise missile or a drone missile," referring to Edward Snowden. We know Paul has some strong feelings about U.S. drone strikes — he floated impeachment for Obama after Anwar al-Awlaki was killed, and of course his son Rand Paul did that thirteen-hour filibuster over drone strikes on Americans. But seriously suggesting that Snowden, a high-profile figure who people still can't agree whether to call a hero or a traitor, would get blown up by an extrajudicial drone strike, shows a certain detachment from reality shared by luminaries such as Rush Limbaugh.

But even if the conclusion that Snowden is in drone danger is fantastic, the reasoning is not hard to follow: The calls for the death penalty have already started. And Snowden himself suggested to the Washington Post's Barton Gellman that the U.S. intelligence community "will most certainly kill you if they think you are the single point of failure that could stop this disclosure and make them the sole owner of this information."

However, he isn't anymore, having turned over "thousands of documents" to the reporters telling his story. And besides, so far in the Snowden saga we know he's been in Hong Kong and considered seeking asylum in Iceland. Those aren't exactly places where one can operate cruise missiles and drones without scrutiny.

Ron Paul Worried that Edward Snowden Will Be Killed by a Drone Strike - YouTube

source: Ron Paul Says Snowden Might Get Hit by a Drone -- Daily Intelligencer

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Ron Paul lost his meds..
 

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Veterans should have your respect young man... Your a little punk compared to him...
You shame your whole family.
 

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Veterans should have your respect young man... Your a little punk compared to him...
You shame your whole family.

WTF, you off your meds too? Never mind, you're always off your meds.

Yeah, the USA is going to send a drone to Hong Kong, China.. lol Can you say WWIII

More important, what does it say to be a US Citizen in a country that may drone your azz for speaking your mind. Where is the Freedom of Speech.

The #1 Freest Country In The World. ???

 

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Edward Snowden says Canadian spying has weakest oversight in Western world



U.S. National Security Agency whistleblower Edward Snowden says Canada has one of the "weakest oversight" frameworks for intelligence gathering in the Western world.

Snowden made the comments during a teleconference discussion hosted by Canadian Journalists for Free Expression and the Ryerson School of Journalism, moderated by CBC Radio host Anna Maria Tremonti. He was speaking via video link from Russia.

Snowden said he wouldn't specifically weigh in on the government's new anti-terror legislation, saying that whether it is good or bad is ultimately up for Canadians to decide. But he likened it to controversial U.S. laws, calling it "an emulation of the American Patriot Act."

Bill C-51 provides for a sweeping range of measures that would allow suspects to be detained based on less evidence and lets CSIS actively interfere with suspects' travel plans and finances.

Critics say the legislation is too broad and lacks oversight.

The government, however, says the powers in C-51 are necessary to keep Canadians safe. It points to the requirement for judges to sign off in advance of CSIS breaking Canadian law, arguing that is adequate oversight for the new powers.

'No fair trial on offer'


Snowden is a controversial figure. The documents he leaked in 2013 revealed the U.S. government has programs in place to spy on almost everything that hundreds of millions of people do online, including emails, social networking posts, online chat histories, phone calls and texts.

Some hail him as a civil rights hero, while others condemn him as a traitor for revealing classified documents and compromising national security. He is wanted by the U.S. government on espionage charges.

Snowden was stranded in a Moscow airport in 2013 on his way from Hong Kong to Cuba, shortly after he released extensive documentation about the NSA surveillance programs. Russia has granted him asylum, attracting the ire of the U.S.

Snowden said he would be willing to return to the U.S. if he could be guaranteed a fair trial, but said that wasn't possible. He cited the possibility that the government would use secret, classified evidence.

"There is no fair trial available on offer right now," he said.

'Rare instances of criminal activity'

The documents Snowden leaked to journalists revealed details about the electronic spying agencies of a number of countries, including Canada.

One program operated by the Communication Security Establishment and dubbed Levitation sifts through millions of videos and documents downloaded worldwide, CBC News revealed earlier this year.

Snowden said the bulk collection of data has fundamentally altered the relationship between citizens and government, and cannot be counted on to stop attacks.

"We cannot throw away all of our rights, all of our liberties, all of our traditions, because we are afraid of rare instances of criminal activity," he said.


source: http://www.cbc.ca/news/edward-snowden-says-canadian-spying-has-weakest-oversight-in-western-world-1.2981051
 

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Smart guy and bang on with the emulation of the patriot act. Harpo is stepping into police state territory and I hope enough Canadians wait up to this whacko's intentions. He certainly has a Napoleon complex.

(Cue the Harpo worshipers...)
 

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Smart guy and bang on with the emulation of the patriot act. Harpo is stepping into police state territory and I hope enough Canadians wait up to this whacko's intentions. He certainly has a Napoleon complex.

(Cue the Harpo worshipers...)

Without Bashing Harper (as difficult as that is for you)... what is your solution to combating terrorism and maybe a 9/11 on Canadian soil.
 

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Without Bashing Harper (as difficult as that is for you)... what is your solution to combating terrorism and maybe a 9/11 on Canadian soil.
Stop going to the Middle east with the Yanks and Brits and shooting and bombing the crap out of them. They aren't coming here unless they are escaping the rubble we left their countries in. The Yanks lied about Libya and Gaddafi and we went over their and bombed the place back to the stone age then handed the country over to Al Quida.
 

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one would think the thread originator would understand the term 'blowback'
 

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what follows is one of my all time favorite news items and makes me proud of saying I'm originally from Brooklyn:




There's a Massive, Illicit Bust of Edward Snowden Stuck to a War Monument in Brooklyn - ANIMAL









While most people slept, a trio of artists and some helpers installed a bust of NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden in Brooklyn on Monday morning. The group, which allowed ANIMAL to exclusively document the installation on the condition that we hide their identities, hauled the 100-pound sculpture into Fort Greene Park and up its hilly terrain just before dawn. They fused it to part of the Prison Ship Martyrs Monument, a memorial to Revolutionary War soldiers. As of press time, the sculpture was still there. UPDATE: Parks Department put a tarp over the bust and removed it this afternoon.

The idea for the Snowden tribute was conceived about a year ago by two New York City-based artists with a history of pulling off notable public interventions. They linked up with a renowned sculptor on the West Coast who was sympathetic to their cause.




The artists admit that Snowden probably wouldn’t approve of the project, since he never wanted the leaks to be about him, but they hope he’d understand why they did it. In a statement about the project, which they have entitled, “Prison Ship Martyrs Monument 2.0,” they wrote:

Fort Greene’s Prison Ship Martyrs Monument is a memorial to American POWs who lost their lives during the Revolutionary War. We have updated this monument to highlight those who sacrifice their safety in the fight against modern-day tyrannies. It would be a dishonor to those memorialized here to not laud those who protect the ideals they fought for, as Edward Snowden has by bringing the NSA’s 4th-Amendment-violating surveillance programs to light. All too often, figures who strive to uphold these ideals have been cast as criminals rather than in bronze.

Our goal is to bring a renewed vitality to the space and prompt even more visitors to ponder the sacrifices made for their freedoms. We hope this inspires them to reflect upon the responsibility we all bear to ensure our liberties exist long into the future.
In 2013, the Snowden leaks exposed an expansive, covert surveillance program that spied on U.S. citizens, residents and even persons abroad, the likes of which the world had never before seen. While activists and a number of journalists have hailed Snowden as a hero, conservatives and politicians have called him a “coward” and a “traitor.” Snowden sought asylum in Moscow, where he remains in exile.

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The artists said they’re dismayed that despite the trove of damning evidence the leaks exposed, the public has largely moved on from the story and no substantial actions have been taken against the NSA. “There’s a media landscape that has painted him as a criminal,” said one of the two New York artists. “You need something theatrical and large to counterbalance the Fox News-iness of the texture of the conversation out there.” At first, the pair thought about making a full-size statue of the former NSA contractor, but were later talked down from that idea by the sculptor. He recommended a bust.

Measuring 4-feet tall, Snowden’s head was placed atop one of the four columns that lie at the monument’s edge, above the eagles. The bust is made of hydrocal, a high quality sculpting material that’s commonly used in places like Las Vegas to create Roman-looking things, castles and other mega props casinos incorporate into their facades. Seeing it up close, you could never tell that you were looking at a plaster-like substance. In fact, over a dozen people walking their dogs passed by the new bust on Monday morning without noticing the unsanctioned piece. Both the color and design of the bust expertly matches the existing sculptures there, from its bronze patina finish to Snowden’s hair — which mimics the texture of the feather on the eagle. The artists also added letters spelling out Snowden’s name in an official-looking font befitting of a monument.

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While it was very important that the piece be more than just a prop or paper mache effigy, the artists didn’t want to damage the surface that the bust would be bound to, either. After some debate, they decided on an adhesive that would firmly hold the head in place, yet could be removed without marring the monument.

The materials needed to create a bust of this type cost thousands of dollars, and the pair ponied up the cash. It then took a little over six months to sculpt, mold, cast and ship to New York. Had the sculptor charged market rates, he said it would have cost tens of thousands of dollars. “The amount of work that goes into this kind of stuff, it’s easily a 30 grand project,” said the 30-something sculptor. “If it were bronze, it could be a $100,000 piece of artwork, maybe more.”

The artists are fully aware of the bust’s inevitable destruction and have left themselves a few options, including one that involves deploying an army of mini-Snowden heads. “We have a full size mold that can be poured again and its been 3D rendered, so we have the ability to print smaller ones at scale,” they said.










I tell ya, it took me a while to complete this post as I was laughing like hell about it all - ah, Brooklyn.

By the way, I stood on that very spot several times many moons ago. So long ago ....
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Snowden is a tosser.

It's a bit ironic, though, that he's currently holed up in that great shining beacon of free speech, democracy and human rights: Russia.
 

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Edward Snowden unveils Haven — a security app to protect laptops
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Edward Snowden is seen in a file photo. (PATRICIA DE MELO MOREIRA/AFP/Getty Images)
NEW YORK — The former National Security Agency contractor who exposed U.S. government surveillance programs by disclosing classified material in 2013 has a new job: app developer.
Edward Snowden in a video message Friday unveiled a new phone app he helped create, called Haven, that aims to protect laptops from physical tampering.
Snowden says it’s an open-source tool designed for human rights activists and other people at risk and it uses an Android phone’s sensors to detect changes in a room.
The software was developed with the Freedom of Press Foundation and the Guardian Project. It has been greeted with mixed social media reactions, with some people celebrating its security capabilities and others saying they don’t trust Snowden.
Snowden has lived in Russia since 2013, when the country gave him asylum, resisting U.S. pressure to extradite him.
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http://guardianproject.github.io/haven
Edward Snowden unveils Haven
 

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Edward Snowden ... owned, sheltered and operated by the Russian intelligence community ...

Would you REALLY load that on to your computer(or even touch a link to it!!)?

That looks like the "Typhoid Mary" of apps, to me.