Oceans are warming so fast that readings are now off the chart

[coldstream]

All these climate 'scientists' are good for are producing ever more alarming reports, ever more distant from what people see outside their windows.

They are nuts, they've lost all sense reality. They are psychotics and religious maniacs (as the radical environmental movement has become).. ranting nonsense of Judgement Day prophesies for mankind's ecological sins against pristine Mother Earth.

They see no reason to back up their fear mongering with facts or rational science.. it must be accepted on the basis of faith, vetted, of course, by the Holy Priesthood of Accredited 'Climotologists' (no skeptics need apply). :roll:

 

[waldo]

All these 'scientists' are good for are producing ever more alarming reports, ever more distant from what people see outside their windows.

They are nuts, they've lost all sense reality. They are psychotics and religious maniacs (as the radical environmental movement has become).. ranting nonsense of Judgement Day prophesies for mankind's ecological sins against pristine Mother Earth.

They see no reason to back up their fear mongering with facts or rational science.. it must be accepted on the basis of faith, vetted, of course, by the Holy Priesthood of Accredited 'Climotologists' (no skeptics need apply).

:mrgreen: nice rant... by the by, do you consider yourself a "skeptic" and which group of particular scientists are your target for being, as you say, "nuts, losing all sense of reality, fear mongering and refusing to provide facts/rational science". Uhhh... to you, what constitutes, as you say, "rational science"? By the by, are there any scientists that meet your personal acceptance measuring bar... and if so, why so?

 

[darkbeaver]

I can't find fault with Coldstreams reluctance to adopt the popular current scientific campaign of disaster mongering. Unless we see where their paychecks come from and who they hang with who would? They should be watched and followed perhaps. A climate fanatic would have us believe governments and the wealthy next even banking trash. At Davos fifteen years ago they had a choice global warming or alien invasion. They should have gone with the little green people.

 

[coldstream]

:mrgreen: nice rant... by the by, do you consider yourself a "skeptic" and which group of particular scientists are your target for being, as you say, "nuts, losing all sense of reality, fear mongering and refusing to provide facts/rational science". Uhhh... to you, what constitutes, as you say, "rational science"? By the by, are there any scientists that meet your personal acceptance measuring bar... and if so, why so?

I would never describe myself as a skeptic.. I'm a full blown DENIER.. i know AGW is pure bunk. A philosophical and political agenda without an ounce of scientific merit.

 

[darkbeaver]

100% pure bunk not a gram of scientific merit. It's time for deniers to stand up and take back America.

 

[waldo]

I would never describe myself as a skeptic.. I'm a full blown DENIER.. i know AGW is pure bunk. A philosophical and political agenda without an ounce of scientific merit.

you need to work on your talking points... deniers like to claim they are the only true skeptics... and liken themselves to Galileo, no less! :mrgreen: That you are so certain is a true testament to your knowledge and study! Which are your favoured denier blogs? /snarc

 

[Zipperfish]

Oceans are warming so fast that readings are now off the chart

Easy thing to do is get yourself a bigger chart. :lol:

 

[waldo]

Easy thing to do is get yourself a bigger chart. :lol:

you're welcome:

 

[Zipperfish]

This anything like the widely reported "fact" that 2014 was the warmest year on record? They forgot to tell us, of course, that there was only a 38% chance that was actually true.....meanwhile, the GW con artists fly into Davos on their private jets.​

How huge a moron do you have to be to swallow this stuff whole?​

2014 was the highest readings of temperatures on the instrumental record since 1880. Those of us in science and engineering are already well aware of the uncertainties implies in that, as in with any researchg data. That's why we are always referring to standard deviations, Type I and Type II errors and confidence levels.

In fact, when you bleat about this 38% business, all you are doing is highlighting your own ignorance of the subject.

Except for the complete wingnuts like Goddard just about every scientist agrees it's getting warmer. There are simply too many lines of evidence--the instrumental record, the ice cores, the rising sea levels, the change in wildlife movements, the changes in vegetation, the melting permafrost, the melting arctic sea ice.

Is Stephen Hawking a moron?

 

[waldo]

In fact, when you bleat about this 38% business, all you are doing is highlighting your own ignorance of the subject.

of course, as you know, that ~38% (NASA) or ~48% (NOAA) positions 2014 with significant greater probability of being the warmest year over the next highest year, 2010

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and of course, somehow deniers will always focus on the lower-end of anomaly estimates: +0.69 ± 0.09 could also mean... as high as +0.78

in any case, the focus on a single warmest year is a secondary aspect behind the real significant point; ie. the continuation of the longer-term warming trend. Pause baby, pause!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ilg75uJZZU
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[coldstream]

you need to work on your talking points... deniers like to claim they are the only true skeptics... and liken themselves to Galileo, no less! :mrgreen: That you are so certain is a true testament to your knowledge and study! Which are your favoured denier blogs? /snarc

You seem to under the impression that their is some real science behind AGW, Waldo. I can assure you there is NOT. Real science in founded on the Scientific Method, which involves a hypothesis and rigorous, objective, empirical testing under controlled conditions to eliminate all prejudice and ambiguity from the results.

Nothing could be further from the truth for AGW science. It is all based on 'models', cobbled together with selective INPUTS and OUTPUTS to produce a given result. That must conform to the Doomsday prophesies of Radical Enviromental Cult behind it. They have become increasingly desperate as their models have NEVER been able to predict anything.

NONE of their predictions have come true and they are continually having to revise estimates and DELAY the 'End Times' to incoporate it into the reality of stable or lower temperatures OR as we've seen recently to misrepresent or invent data that supports its premise.

It's main instrument is FEAR, which should give any intelligent respondent real cause for doubt. It means they have no case, and want the 'solutions' devised in a state of panic and hysteria.. beyond any recourse to reason or doubt.

The models themselves are limited to the last 50 or so years of retrievable data. This for the most complex and iterative system of earth, Climate. They have eliminated all inputs except those of carbon, and have only one output, temperature rise

They have no idea what caused the Climatological Epochs of Ice Ages or Tropical Ages and yet they arrogantly claim all climate will be irrevocably altered by a trace element in the atmosphere, for which human activity represents only a small fraction of the total.

The Climate Cult has drawn up alliances with the Global Trading and Financial Leviathon which realizes that by imposing quotas and shortages on energy, food, basic commodities they can rig markets to generate immense profits from desperate and captive markets.

For the true Climate Occultists this fits into the long range game plan, which is to reduce the human population by 90%, to impose an eco-utopia free from the human pestilence except for a few true believers and 'non interveners' and despoilers of pristine Mother Nature..

Basicly you have the greediest, most arrogant, most delusional, fear and hate mongering people on Earth behind a plan that lacks any sense of scientific integrity or validity. It is driven by an abject hatred of things human. Which of of course means a form of self hatred. These people really are very sick and pathetic puppies.

 

[Zipperfish]

Nothing could be further from the truth for AGW science. It is all based on 'models', cobbled together with selective INPUTS and OUTPUTS to produce a given result. That must conform to the Doomsday prophesies of Radical Enviromental Cult behind it. They have become increasingly desperate as their models have NEVER been able to predict anything.

Pretty much all science and engineering is based on models. Or maybe you're in the Calvin school of how to build a bridge:

Basicly you have the greediest, most arrogant, most delusional, fear and hate mongering people on Earth behind a plan that lacks any sense of scientific integrity or validity. It is driven by an abject hatred of things human.

And I'm the alarmist?