Obama - What is your opinion so far on his Presidency

[CDNBear]

Yes, I was thinking of your thread when I posted this Bear. A different form of tyranny perhaps?

Absolutely!!!

Safety and happiness being the key words in the Declaration, are not the concerns of the wealthy and those they fund.

You have to come offer your opinion in that thread, here or there. Ya I know we oft rub each other the wrong way. But I love reading your posts, it doesn't matter if I agree with them or not!

 

[Machjo]

The problem here is that the constitution can be interpreted in different ways. He will go by his interpretation of the constitution. But then most politicians will claim that they also abide by the constitution, it is just that their interpretation differs from that of Paul. So we are really no further ahead,

How about this for interpretation:

YouTube - Ron Paul - "Read the Constitution!"

But that is true of most wars, most of them were illegal. Congress has the authority to declare war, not the president. By that definition, I think even the Vietnam war was illegal, I don't think Congress ever declared war on Vietnam.

I'd never commented on the Vietnman War.

So why apply different standards to this particular war?

 

[YukonJack]

This needs no further comment:

White House Jester Beheaded For Making Fun Of Soaring National Debt | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

 

[Avro]

This needs no further comment:

White House Jester Beheaded For Making Fun Of Soaring National Debt | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

Psssst! Hey YJ....the onion isn't real news.:lol:

 

[ironsides]

That is what Congress usually does. It never declares a war, but if president goes to war, Congress will fund the war. Not to do so shows disloyalty to the troops, and can't have that.

Vietnam was never a war, it was a police action, that is how the Constitution was circumvented. The same policy is being used against the terrorists in Afghanistan.

Now as for getting rid of a party is concerned, I would not miss the so called "Progressive" branch of the Democratic party.

That's your democracy for you. The preceding president wasn't any better.

Your country really does need a Ron Paul to win, just to shake things up. Though Congress would still have it's Corporate shills, and that's where you can begin to see the problem. Corporations have far too much influence on your politics. And they're not making America a better place for Americans, they're making America a better place for the ultra-wealthy.

I mean it's pervasive, more than half of the Federal judges in the Gulf Coast states have ties to energy firms...whose interests are being protected when they have to balance the environmental degradation, loss of income, property values, and the revenue needs of the oil companies?

It wouldn't matter who won, as you mentioned, the corporate shills will always be there. They only let us (you included) get away with what ever they want, and make it look like we won something. But so far I'm happy with that, those that push to hard just disappear from world politics.

 

[YukonJack]

Avro was trying to be funny, but only managed to make himself look foolish:

"Psssst! Hey YJ....the onion isn't real news.:lol:"

 

[Avro]

Avro was trying to be funny, but only managed to make himself look foolish:

"Psssst! Hey YJ....the onion isn't real news.:lol:"

I'm not the one who posted that as news YJ.

Who's the more foolish? The fool or the fool that follows him?

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Now as for getting rid of a party is concerned, I would not miss the so called "Progressive" branch of the Democratic party.
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Quite so, ironsides, many Republicans feel that way. They would much rather see a one party system in USA, similar to Iran, Saudi Arabia or North Korea, where the same party is returned to power again and again.

To be fair, many Conservatives here also feel the same way, they would very much like to see a one party state in Canada as well, with their party perpetually in power. Their model for Canada is Alberta. In Alberta Conservative party is perpetually in power. Conservative philosophy is, what is good for Alberta is good for Canada.

 

[pgs]

Way to funny.
Are you drinking cherry or strawberry kool-aid?

 

[Highball]

Obama started out with all kinds of good intentions. BUT he is a neophyte and he has sure run into some troubles along the way. I still think there are some behind the scenes handlers who are trying to get a specific agenda accomplished too fast and now much of what could have probably got done will not in this term. Will he have another trem? It is still to early to forecast if that will happen.

 

[Kreskin]

Obama started out with all kinds of good intentions. BUT he is a neophyte and he has sure run into some troubles along the way. I still think there are some behind the scenes handlers who are trying to get a specific agenda accomplished too fast and now much of what could have probably got done will not in this term. Will he have another trem? It is still to early to forecast if that will happen.

I believe what your saying about 'some behind the scenes' is true, and it will be for anyone who is President. All we need to do is look at our own lives to see how much time we don't have to carry out some pretty mundane tasks. The President is only as good as the people hired to create and implement policy and strategy. I'm sure all Presidents have good intentions.

How about this for interpretation:

YouTube - Ron Paul - "Read the Constitution!"




I'd never commented on the Vietnman War.

So why apply different standards to this particular war?

Romney got owned there.

 

[Machjo]

Romney got owned there.

By a fellow Republican no less.

 

[ironsides]

Quite so, ironsides, many Republicans feel that way. They would much rather see a one party system in USA, similar to Iran, Saudi Arabia or North Korea, where the same party is returned to power again and again.

To be fair, many Conservatives here also feel the same way, they would very much like to see a one party state in Canada as well, with their party perpetually in power. Their model for Canada is Alberta. In Alberta Conservative party is perpetually in power. Conservative philosophy is, what is good for Alberta is good for Canada.

Where did I say or mention anything about a single party system, that would only happen if I were King. No, SJP I do not trust anyone involved in politics to make irreversible decisions in my name. If they do, I just help them get voted out the next time. At least my choices are only between 2-3, not 25+ or so Parliamentary goverment seems to have. In Alberta Conservative party is perpetually in power because the majority of people want it that way. Somehow real democracy grew there. Those that don't like that arrangement can either move or get enough people who think like them to move in.
What you and others have failed to realize is that the Democrats and Republicans will never be that far apart, they are and have always been joined at the hip.

 

[ironsides]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Nearly 60 percent of American voters say they lack faith in
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The results of the Washington Post/ABC News poll are a reversal of what voters said at the start of
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100713/us_nm/us_obama_poll

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[SirJosephPorter]

Obama started out with all kinds of good intentions. BUT he is a neophyte and he has sure run into some troubles along the way. I still think there are some behind the scenes handlers who are trying to get a specific agenda accomplished too fast and now much of what could have probably got done will not in this term. Will he have another trem? It is still to early to forecast if that will happen.

Democrats had a rare window opportunity here. They had the presidency, filibuster proof majority in the Senate (for a short while) and a big majority in Congress. This was the time to pass specific agenda as quickly as possible. Thus, this was the only opportunity to pass health care reform, I don’t think anybody will be in a position to tackle heath care reform for the next 50 years. I don’t see such political situation (Democrats having presidency and huge majority in both houses of Congress) for another 50 years.

That is why it was necessary to rush Democratic agenda through, and overall Obama has done pretty well in getting Democratic agenda passed. What people think of his agenda, they will tell us in 2010 and 2012.

 

[ironsides]

And they blew it. America needs Obama-care like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask.
--Jay Leno

 

[SirJosephPorter]

And they blew it. America needs Obama-care like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask.
--Jay Leno

So he seems to be saying that America needs Obamacare (since in his opinion, Pelosi presumably needs a Halloween mask). It seems to me he was making fun of Pelosi here, not of Obama.

 

[ironsides]

Its ok, you didn't get it.

 

[sombraa110]

i started this thread, stop plagiarizing,

 

[GreenFish66]

Obama is still one of the All time Best Presidents for the People...He just needs to get his feathers ruffled up , Fly free... The people will follow.... Before the Oil Floods soak land ,Sea and Air.. .....