Obama the Dictator
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What is the fukking fuss.. US voters are idiots.. Take it from an MIT prof.
He is giving 4.8 million green cards to individuals who have US born children..
Heads up idiots, as soon as the child reaches the age of 18 he can sponsor the parents into the USA.. This is the same for Canada..
So basically these parents, all 4.8 million will still get their green cards, going through the system will just create more back logs, more bureaucracy which cost tax payers money.. So giving all these parents green cards actually save tax dollars and fast tracks the inevitable. Also, adds money to SSA.
This action is humanity at its best, keeping the family unit together ...
I'm starting to think Americans, really are very stupid in some matters.
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He is giving 4.8 million green cards to individuals who have US born children..
Heads up idiots, as soon as the child reaches the age of 18 he can sponsor the parents into the USA.. This is the same for Canada..
So basically these parents, all 4.8 million will still get their green cards, going through the system will just create more back logs, more bureaucracy which cost tax payers money.. So giving all these parents green cards actually save tax dollars and fast tracks the inevitable. Also, adds money to SSA.
This action is humanity at its best, keeping the family unit together ...
I'm starting to think Americans, really are very stupid in some matters.
FoxBots
When a President uses his authority to deny immigrants or accept immigrants
it has nothing to do with being a dictator or not. I for one had little use for Reagan
he caused most of the problems we're dealing with today with his simplistic and
ill thought solutions Bush Old Man Bush created a lot of the problems in the
Middle East by arming the wrong people and hanging round with people like Saddam.
Having said that they used the levers of the law and were not dictators
Obama has gone in the other direction and that does not make him a dictator either
These things are often said by those who do not know the system and how it
functions.
it has nothing to do with being a dictator or not. I for one had little use for Reagan
he caused most of the problems we're dealing with today with his simplistic and
ill thought solutions Bush Old Man Bush created a lot of the problems in the
Middle East by arming the wrong people and hanging round with people like Saddam.
Having said that they used the levers of the law and were not dictators
Obama has gone in the other direction and that does not make him a dictator either
These things are often said by those who do not know the system and how it
functions.
It may not be possible to deport all illegals, but it is possible to force them to live in the shadows.
As we all know... you know so much about "the system" as you have demonstrated over and over.
Romney answered that one. They self-deport.
Oddly, I agree with Romney, and that's my answer to illegal immigration. A mandatory fine of $10,000 and 30 days in jail for each illegal immigrant employed. That way, somebody who employs an illegal nanny or gardener gets a 10K fine and 30 days in county, and the president of Hormel Meats, employing 600 illegals, gets a fine of 6 mil and 50 years.
Yeah, that'll happen.
Drying up "entitlements" would certainly change things. Fines for employing illegal immigrants certainly would change things as well.
But yeah... that will happen.
But yeah... that will happen.
Roger that. The idea that someone in the country illegally should get a driver's license, subsidised housing, welfare benefits, &c. is crazy on every level, philosophical and practical.
That's why they start weeping when they talk about the poor, suffering immigrants. When you've got no philosophical argument and no practical argument, go for the dwama.
Just like Canada, America will allow illegals to supress wage increase pressure and it will never change. There are Laws in the USA regarding hiring of illegals but they have been rarely enforced. I must add, it has never made sense to me that a Union would support Illegals entering the job market......
The Bush administration, which is vowing to crack down on U.S. companies that hire illegal workers, virtually abandoned such employer sanctions before it began pushing to overhaul U.S. immigration laws last year, government statistics show.
Between 1999 and 2003, work-site enforcement operations were scaled back 95 percent by the Immigration and Naturalization Service, which subsequently was merged into the Homeland Security Department. The number of employers prosecuted for unlawfully employing immigrants dropped from 182 in 1999 to four in 2003, and fines collected declined from $3.6 million to $212,000, according to federal statistics.
In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to 3.
The government's steady retreat from workplace enforcement in the 20 years since it became illegal to hire undocumented workers is the result of fierce political pressure from business lobbies, immigrant rights groups and members of Congress, according to law enforcement veterans. Punishing employers also was de-emphasized as the government recognized that it lacks the tools to do the job well, and as the Department of Homeland Security shifted resources to combat terrorism.
Company officials who knowingly employ illegal workers can be fined and, if they continue, face jail time. Housing or harboring illegal workers or laundering money can carry long prison sentences. But the easy availability of fraudulent documents frustrates investigators, as does a law that protects businesses as long as a worker's document "appears on its face to be genuine."
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Illegal Hiring Is Rarely Penalized
The Bush administration, which is vowing to crack down on U.S. companies that hire illegal workers, virtually abandoned such employer sanctions before it began pushing to overhaul U.S. immigration laws last year, government statistics show.
Between 1999 and 2003, work-site enforcement operations were scaled back 95 percent by the Immigration and Naturalization Service, which subsequently was merged into the Homeland Security Department. The number of employers prosecuted for unlawfully employing immigrants dropped from 182 in 1999 to four in 2003, and fines collected declined from $3.6 million to $212,000, according to federal statistics.
In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to 3.
The government's steady retreat from workplace enforcement in the 20 years since it became illegal to hire undocumented workers is the result of fierce political pressure from business lobbies, immigrant rights groups and members of Congress, according to law enforcement veterans. Punishing employers also was de-emphasized as the government recognized that it lacks the tools to do the job well, and as the Department of Homeland Security shifted resources to combat terrorism.
Company officials who knowingly employ illegal workers can be fined and, if they continue, face jail time. Housing or harboring illegal workers or laundering money can carry long prison sentences. But the easy availability of fraudulent documents frustrates investigators, as does a law that protects businesses as long as a worker's document "appears on its face to be genuine."
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Illegal Hiring Is Rarely Penalized
Well E-Verify is working well, and entitlements, you need US ID to qualify for "entitlements"
Sure kick out all the illegals, who is going to pick Apples and Grapes in Yakima, WA, who is going to farm in Alabama, Georgia and several other states... Who's going to pick oranges in California and Flordia..
Sure get legal folks, who you have to pay 3X's the amount, and of course you won't see any change at the grocery stores..
Then Eagle will be bitching about his grocery bill wondering why it has tripled in cost, but hey he will be able to sleep at night knowing some poor illegal dirt farmer won't be pulling up his cabbage patch in the back yard.
What at the beginning of this thread you seemed concerned for immigrant rights..
Illegal Alien, labor, American labor, jobs, OJJPAC,illegal immigration, amnesty, undocumented, displaced, Salvi
Remember what the Mexican President said; "illegals do the jobs, that the blacks don't want to do."
Immigrants have all the rights of citizens except the right to vote and hold certain government jobs.
Illegal aliens have the right to humane treatment while in detention and a summary hearing to ascertain that they are illegal. They also have the right to a cheese sandwich and a bottle of water on the trip back.
Really, drive down to Krom North Processing Center, Outside Miami and pull a 2 week stint there.. Then tell me the rights illegals have.
They have individuals who are stateless, meaning they will never get out because they don't have a country to return to..
Yup, there's some serious rights for you, and a wonderful legal case if you want to dig
I didn't say their rights are always respected, I said they have them. Just like people have the right not to be gunned down by the cops when innocently minding their own business.
That you don't understand the distinction is just the beginning of your problem.
Send 'em to Honduras.
I point out that Obama wouldn't be the first president to take executive action on illegal immigrants, and you read that as "concern for immigrant rights?"
Why he is Arabic.. Never committed a crime against the USA.
Krom the hidden Guantamino in the Everglades next to a military base..
Thought you were an ambulance chaser, start chasing.
Because it's cheaper than sending him to the Middle East.
Thought you were a truck driver, continue making ignorant comments about topics you don't understand.Krom the hidden Guantamino in the Everglades next to a military base..
Thought you were an ambulance chaser, start chasing.
Yes I do, you're defending his right to do so, in short agreeing with his political ambitions..
You don't know me... I do know first hand how illegals live, work and what they are entitled too.
Unless you have been in their shoes, don't assume you know sh't.
A massive criminalization program would become an expensive and dangerous cluster****. But it will certainly increase the demand for guns.