Normalizing Pedophilia 2

[Cobalt_Kid]

By "news value," you mean commercial value. In case you hadn't noticed, there are adverts during the news. And the competition for adverts, and advertising dollars, dictates content.

In other words, it's commercial.

No, I mean news value in the sense that they often play those tapes to help identify criminals, I don't watch them for anything else.

And there is no justification for pedophilia due to the lasting damage it does to the victims. We have more than enough in this country, whether it's First Nations people many of whom had to endure institutionalized abuse, victims of the church like the Mount Cashel boys or even prominent sports figures like Theo Fluery and Sheldon Kennedy. We don't need anymore and until they come up with an effective treatment they need to take these people out of society or control their activity if they still live in the general population.

From the article, I don't believe Goldberg normalizes pedophilia but rather looks at it from a clinical perspective. He is not endorsing it.

His statements about pedophilia being a sexual orientation have long been an accepted fact. If what he is saying is true, that most do not act on their sexual preferences much the same as the majority of psychopaths do not murder we have no means of identifying the danger.

I do not believe they should be in authoritative positions around children or left alone with children. If we keep it buried they will be. We need to place child welfare above our feelings of repulsion and open this up.

I don't think we are evolved enough as a society yet to do this.

I think it has to do with power and not sex. Sex(abuse actually) is just the means to exert power over the vulnerable by someone who probably feels powerless in their life.

 

[Locutus]

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WaPo Op Ed: Sex Between Teacher And Underage Students Should Not Be A Crime



Despicable.


Via NRO:

The Guardian and the Atlantic have published columns aimed at normalizing pedophilia. Scientific American and the BBC have publishing articles normalizing polyamory. Now the Washington Post publishes an opinion piece that advocates decriminalizing student-teacher sex.

A Montana teacher was only sentenced to 30 days in jail for raping a 14-year old student. Betsy Karasik says that was too much. From, “Sex Between Students and Teachers Should Not be Illegal:”

As protesters decry the leniency of Rambold’s sentence — he will spend 30 days in prison after pleading guilty to raping 14-year-old Cherice Morales, who committed suicide at age 16 — I find myself troubled for the opposite reason. I don’t believe that all sexual conduct between underage students and teachers should necessarily be classified as rape, and I believe that absent extenuating circumstances, consensual sexual activity between teachers and students should not be criminalized.


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[Sal]

I think it has to do with power and not sex. Sex(abuse actually) is just the means to exert power over the vulnerable by someone who probably feels powerless in their life.

Mmm, yes and no. I would have agreed with you five years ago as I would have viewed it "a rape" and rape is about power not sex as power over the victim leads to sexual gratification. So when others say cut his balls off, they do not understand that the removal of the testes does not prevent rape. There are many ways to rape another human being. Women can in fact rape a man.

We now know more about sexual proclivities than we did a decade ago. Pedophiles are attracted to children in the same way you are attracted to women and I am attracted to men. It triggers a brain reaction that stimulates the sexual organs. It is involuntary. Thus it spins things because it is not just about power. A pedophile is attracted to a young prepubescent body. It is complex. We need to learn more about the complexity of the dynamic. We can not when the general public screams about cutting his b alls off. Ignorance and emotional reaction are not part of the solution but rather a part of the problem.

 

[SLM]

Mmm, yes and no. I would have agreed with you five years ago as I would have viewed it "a rape" and rape is about power not sex as power over the victim leads to sexual gratification. So when others say cut his balls off, they do not understand that the removal of the testes does not prevent rape. There are many ways to rape another human being. Women can in fact rape a man.

We now know more about sexual proclivities than we did a decade ago. Pedophiles are attracted to children in the same way you are attracted to women and I am attracted to men. It triggers a brain reaction that stimulates the sexual organs. It is involuntary. Thus it spins things because it is not just about power. A pedophile is attracted to a young prepubescent body. It is complex. We need to learn more about the complexity of the dynamic. We can not when the general public screams about cutting his b alls off. Ignorance and emotional reaction are not part of the solution but rather a part of the problem.

For my two cents, I would just like to add that if the justice system took the actions committed as seriously as they should be taken and provided adequate protection for society from those who would do harm to children, the panic button might not as easily pushed. Because right now, we have to not only worry about the pedophiles that we don't know about, but also the ones that we do know about that are released in three years or less back into society.

It is perfectly understandable why so many people react the way that they do.

 

[Nuggler]

""""Ignorance and emotional reaction are not part of the solution but rather a part of the problem.""""

Yep, but tell that to the parents of a 5 year old (eg.) who was raped and killed.

Cannot ever, under any conditions, "normalize" pedophilia.

Should not ever let the perps out. They can't be cured.

Calling them pond scum is insulting to pond scum.

 

[Sal]

For my two cents, I would just like to add that if the justice system took the actions committed as seriously as they should be taken and provided adequate protection for society from those who would do harm to children, the panic button might not as easily pushed. Because right now, we have to not only worry about the pedophiles that we don't know about, but also the ones that we do know about that are released in three years or less back into society.

It is perfectly understandable why so many people react the way that they do.

It is perfectly understandable, yes.

 

[tober]

Pedophilia is a recognized affliction with defined causes and effects in which adult males are sexually attracted to pre-pubescent male children. People afflicted have suffered deeply and need help. Unfortunately one of the hallmarks of the affliction is an inability to be honest about what they have done or accept responsibility for the acts. The bottom line priority is to protect the children. Pedophiles who do seek help should get it without judgment. Let the courts do the judging.