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tracy

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I don't think it's morally equal for them to decide to deport him to a country in which torture occurs when they could send him to a country in which it doesn't. I mean technically I realize they can do either, but that doesn't make it right.
 

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I happen to agree with the opening article of this topic. Why did Arar feel he needed dual citizenship? It seems to me that having dual citizenship is not an advantage to the person holding dual citizenship and in my mind, it calls his loyalty into question. Dual citizenship should be dissallowed. The sooner the better. It is time these people stood up and decided that they are Canadians. If the can't stand up proudly and say they are Canadians, ship them back to what ever dump they came from.
 

tracy

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Do we even know if it's possible to denounce Syrian citizenship? Some countries don't allow you to denounce your citizenship and they confer citizenship to people regardless of their wishes on occasion through birth or marriage.
 

#juan

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I have to admit Tracy that I don't know the amswer to that, but I'll find out.
 
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#juan

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[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Some countries - such as Iran and Syria - don't recognize any right to renounce citizenship. Iranian Canadians are dual citizens whether they like it or not ..


That is all I've found at the moment.
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I will have to check, but I'm pretty sure it is actually against Canadian law to hold two Passports.

At the time, the RCMP believed the information they to be true. They failed to pass on the correct info, when it came to light.
Last I checked on the story Arar was NOT carrying two passports... His Canadian Passport indicated Syria as his place of birth which is what led to the whole thing...

Correct me if I'm wrong...

Also, if one holds two valid citizenships, one may own two VALID passports... One can NOT use different passports when on a trip however... Entries and exits to and through countries have to match ONE passport...

This also may be relevant -
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/us-american-politics/50724-excuse-me-what-did-day-say.html
 

#juan

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Let me repeat: Neither Syria, nor Iran give their citizens the right to renounce their citizenship.
 

MikeyDB

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If the measure of a persons loyalty to his nation is codified by what passport he carries or the paper work of which nation he supplies when asked his nationality, then isn't he also subject to having his home taken away, his business taken away and his family interned in a labor camp if he should happen to provide be say both Japanese and German???

If you're of XYZ citizenship then you can't be trusted and have no rights in this multi-cultural matrix we call North America, but we have a lovely little piece of land in the middle of no where where you and your family will now be required to occupy.

Sounds eminently reasonable to me!

NOT
 

MikeyDB

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All participants at Canadian Content will submit tissue samples so we can assure participants that only loyal Canadian citizens can participate.

This has been a public service announcement.
 

MikeyDB

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Freedom and dignity are appropriate only for those of correct breeding and lineage and smart enough to carry the "correct" passport or national papers....

What kind of bull**** is this....

Maybe you should stick to cliche sound-byte philosophy like your pal Sassy and let the adults here get on with talking grown-up talk...whaddya think....
 

MikeyDB

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What does the fact (its history you can look it up) that a head tax on the Chinese (brought here as slave labour to build the formative everlasting wonder of wonders national railway that united a nation)...were justly appologized to as have been the Japanese and the Germans who've lived in Canada and the United States for generations whom were when jingoistic fervor reached a pitch that permitted human rights to be forgotten in the name of national security and their land and future were taken away from them by the same rationale as the fear of two passports doesn't strike anyone else as a giant leap backward!?

If only they'd taken away Timothy McVeighs passport, or the Berkowitz's and all the other bad folk so we'd know who we can trust and who we can't it would make life so much simpler....
 

#juan

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There was a photo journalist who was a Canadian of Iranian decent, (forgive me for forgetting her name) who had dual citizenship forced on her and she was beaten to death by Iranian police.
 

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ITN posts because he's driven to survive and do what he can to save a sinking ship built by Americans who believe they harbor a natural superiority to the rest of the world and being manned by a dry-drunk Texan who's been unable to maintain the fraud of his "patriotism".

I surely don't need a whining irrelevant leftist North of the 49th to tell me why I post. You have an opinion, but you realize you are irrelevant, right?
 

tracy

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There was a photo journalist who was a Canadian of Iranian decent, (forgive me for forgetting her name) who had dual citizenship forced on her and she was beaten to death by Iranian police.

I believe her name was Kazemi. Unfortunately she chose to go to Iran, she wasn't deported there.
 

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This thread starts with a falsehood, imagine stating this country is covered with a left wing media? I could hardly contain my laughter, the media may have a column or two from the left but by and large the media is owned by private interests, most of them right wing. I spent over thirty years in the media, some years ago and I never found one privately own station that was left wing, most of the news papers are conservative or right wing liberal, and the CBC is somewhat left at times, but for the most part is pretty nutral, depending on the issue.
The RCMP and the Government of the day were both involved up to their eye teeth kissing the begind of the US agencies. This Syrian born Canadian is above all else by definition, Canadian, and we should always protect our own when it comes to other nations. He was treated unfairly and the head of the RCMP should now step down.
 

CDNBear

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Just a couple quick questions,,,

Why isn't anyone upset with the Syrians? They were the ones that tortured him.

I agree, the RCMP screwed up, the FBI went on what the RCMP told them. So why blame the FBI in this?

He was not handed over to the States after the info was corrected, it was only after he had been transferred to Syria, that the info was reversed, no?
 

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Bear the truth doesn't matter when it's the US is evil and the Canadians aren't evil. The RCMP yet again screwed up but some how it's the US's fault same ole same ole. I guess the posters on CC think Canadians are to stupid to pluck up, or are afraid we do pluck up so they blame the US for everything. I mean everything, hell it's ITN's fault I have Bronchtis. Really, it is his fault.