Nibiru and Planet X

[Tonington]

i agree some of this is total hog wash alien DNA is a hard one to swallow, did you hear about the blood of Christ on the ark of the covenant, they have done DNA testing on it and can find the mothers chromosomes, but they cannot find the fathers chromosomes, or something like it..?

That sounds like Mitochondrial DNA, which is often used to identify older specimens due to the large number of copies of mtDNA in a given cell, much larger than the nuclear variety of DNA. It's not that they can't find the DNA from the father, it's just that mtDNA is easier to collect and analyze.

 

[dancing-loon]

All this scientific stuff bores me, because it is way over my head. The spiritual wisdom holds more truth, in my opinion.:smile:

Decades ago I was introduced to the life and teachings of America's greatest psychic, Edgar Cayce.
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Here is what he had to say when asked what the New Age means to humanity..

Edgar Cayce replied: “the full consciousness of the ability to communicate with the Creative Forces and be aware of the relationships to the Creative Forces and the uses of same in material environs. This awareness during the era or age in the Age of Atlantis and Lemuria or Mu brought what? Destruction to man, and his beginning of the needs of the journey up through that of selfishness.” (1602-3)

Explanation/interpretation:

Cayce is informing us that in a previous time cycle, humanity had a level of consciousness and relationship with the Creative Forces that allowed us to live at higher levels of material, mental, and spiritual activity in the Earth and beyond. Unfortunately, we misused this consciousness and the power that came with the close relationship to the Forces. This misuse brought on the destruction of our great cultures and a long, karmic soul journey through the pain and confusion that resulted from our selfishness and self-centered focus on our will without regard for the will of the Creator and others. Now, as the cycles come around again, we are nearing a time when the level of consciousness and relationship with the Creative Forces will allow us once again to regain these powers.
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Before we despair that humankind is going to misuse these again, let’s remember that many, many souls and even the Logos, the Word, have come into materiality and continue to come to help prepare the way for rebirth and resurrection. We overestimate the power of the world and its leaders.

The unseen, heavenly forces have greater power and will overcome the world’s darkness and selfishness, breaking through with a light that will transform this realm for a thousand years, when all evil and temptation will be bound and a golden age will reign. The biblical book of the Revelation conveys this prophecy: “I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. He seized the dragon, the old serpent, which is the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole inhabited earth, and bound him for a thousand years.” (Rev. 20:2)

Of course, souls in the world must help lift humanity to higher levels of understanding, love, and spirituality.
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(I love you, Quandary, for leading me back to a long neglected path!}

Is 2012 the beginning of the fulfillment of these wonderful prophecies, or is it just another step on the long journey toward such fulfillment? The answer depends on us. How many of us catch the vision and raise our vibrations and consciousness to contribute to a truly new age of enlightenment will determine what occurs in January 2013.​

There is more to life than meets the eye.;-)​

 

[quandary121]

That sounds like Mitochondrial DNA, which is often used to identify older specimens due to the large number of copies of mtDNA in a given cell, much larger than the nuclear variety of DNA. It's not that they can't find the DNA from the father, it's just that mtDNA is easier to collect and analyze.

YOU COULD BE RIGHT i dont know this is the video that i got my info from if you care to watch ARK OF THE COVENANT BLOOD OF JESUS

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=N3hm-iH1buQ

 

[quandary121]

There are those who believe that the Anunnaki of Nibiru are coming back to Earth soon. They believe that Planet X is going to pass by Earth, in May or June of 2003, on its 3,600 year orbit around our sun. Such believers are terrified of the consequences that a close pass by Nibiru might bring. They fear this will cause earthquakes, tidal waves, severe flooding, food shortages due to climatic conditions, diseases, meteor fire storms, volcanic eruptions and the like. They are afraid that it will result in a great catastrophic infliction of loss of life on Earth.

Planet Nibiru (Ne.Bi.Ru) is known by many names, such as: Planet X, The Twelfth Planet, Marduk, Paradise, "Heaven" and the "Kingdom of the Heavens" and etc. in various cultures. Although Nibiru has been called The Twelfth Planet, technically it is not a planet of our solar system. In fact, it is a planet from another solar system and the star that was the sun of its solar system has been extinguished. Nibiru was never visible from the Earth but the star which was the centre of Nibiru’s solar system was visible in the skies from Earth. The orbiting pattern of Nibiru gave the Anunnaki the advantage of having a mobile observatory from which they could observe and investigate many other planets near its orbit.

The early people named Planet X as Nibiru in Sumerian, and Marduk in Babylonian. It has been said that the ancient Mesopotamians believed that Nibiru was the twelfth planet in our solar system and that it was "heaven" where their gods resided and came from.
Nibirians, the people of Nibiru, are often referred to as Anunnaki, Nephilim, Elohim (plural for god), and Mardukians. I shall refer to them as Anunnaki as this is what the general population was known as by the Sumerians and by those at the present time. The word "Anunnaki" literally means "those who came from heaven to earth". In the Old Testament these "heavenly" visitors are called "Anakim".
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/dm_report.html

 

[Tonington]

So, what happened in 2003? Earthquakes, tidal waves, floods, food shortages, meteor storms, volcanoes? No catastrophes beyond the normal scope of earthly terrors.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

They believe that Planet X is going to pass by Earth, in May or June of 2003, on its 3,600 year orbit around our sun.

Sure. That was 5 years ago. It didn't show up, did it. Doesn't that tell you anything? Such as, these people have no idea what they're talking about?

 

[quandary121]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=+1]TIME LINE OF RESEARCH REGARDING THE[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica]"SEARCH FOR PLANET X"[/FONT]

• [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]In 1841, John Couch Adams began investigating the by then quite large residuals in the motion of Uranus. In 1845, Urbain Le Verrier started to investigate them, too. Adams presented two different solutions to the problem, assuming that the deviations were caused by the gravitation from an unknown planet.[/SIZE][/FONT]

• [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]Sept 30, 1846 --- one week after the discovery of Neptune, Le Verrier declared that there may be still another unknown planet out there. On October 10, Neptune's large moon Triton was discovered, which yielded an easy way to accurately determine the mass of Neptune, which turned out to be 2% larger than expected from the perturbations upon Uranus.[/SIZE][/FONT]

• [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]Another attempt to find a trans-Neptunian planet was done in 1877 by David Todd. He used a "graphical method", from the residuals of Uranus, he derived elements for a trans-Neptunian planet: mean distance 52 a.u., period 375 years, magnitude fainter than 13.[/SIZE][/FONT]

• [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]In 1879, Camille Flammarion added another hint as to the existence of a planet beyond Neptune: the aphelia of periodic comets tend to cluster around the orbits of major planets. Jupiter has the greatest share of such comets, and Saturn, Uranus and Neptune also have a few each.[/SIZE][/FONT]

• [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]Percival Lowell, most well known as a proponent for canals on Mars, built a private observatory in Flagstaff, Arizona. Lowell called his hypothetical planet Planet X, and performed several searches for it, without success. Lowell's first search for Planet X came to an end in 1909, but in 1913 he started a second search, with a new prediction of Planet X: epoch 1850-01-01, mean long 11.67 deg, perih. long 186, eccentricity 0.228, mean dist 47.5 a.u. long arc node 110.99 deg, inclination 7.30 deg, mass 1/21000 solar masses. Lowell and others searched in vain for this Planet X in 1913-1915. In 1915, Lowell published his theoretical results of Planet X. It is ironic that this very same year, 1915, two faint images of Pluto was recorded at Lowell observatory, although they were never recognized as such until after the discovery of Pluto (1930).[/SIZE][/FONT]

 

[quandary121]

Sure. That was 5 years ago. It didn't show up, did it. Doesn't that tell you anything? Such as, these people have no idea what they're talking about?

New York Times
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]June 19, 1982[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]Something out there beyond the farthest reaches of the known solar system seems to be tugging at Uranus and Neptune. Some gravitational force keeps perturbing the two giant planets, causing irregularities in their orbits. The force suggests a presence far away and unseen, a large object that may be the long- sought Planet X. The last time a serious search of the skies was made it led to the discovery in 1930 of Pluto, the ninth planet. But the story begins more than a century before that, after the discovery of Uranus in 1781 by the English astronomer and musician William Herschel. Until then, the planetary system seemed to end with Saturn.Today, scientists accept theories concerning plate tectonics. There are articles and studies showing that, at one time, all of Earth continents were on one side of the planet. What the stories don't explore is the question, if all the continents were on one side, what was on the other? The other side has been described as a tremendous gap, matching the Sumerian story of how the Earth came about. The Sumerians said Earth was really half a planet called Tiamat, which broke up in a collision with Nibiru, [or Planet X].[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]The discovery of new planets has, in the last two hundred years, owed more to the science of mathematics than it has to the design of bigger and better telescopes. The unaccounted-for mathematical irregularities in the orbits of the outer planets have prompted astronomers to speculate upon the existence of a further, undiscovered planet. Astronomers are so certain of this planet's existence that they have already named it 'Planet X' - the Tenth Planet[/SIZE][/FONT]

 

[quandary121]

Sure. That was 5 years ago. It didn't show up, did it. Doesn't that tell you anything? Such as, these people have no idea what they're talking about?

if your going to open your mouth make sure you know what your talking about first Dexter

 

[quandary121]

So, what happened in 2003? Earthquakes, tidal waves, floods, food shortages, meteor storms, volcanoes? No catastrophes beyond the normal scope of earthly terrors.

when was a tsunami
26 December 2004 tsunami.

On Sunday, 26 December 2004, the greatest earthquake in 40 years occurred about 150 kilometers off the west coast of northern Sumatra Island

 

[L Gilbert]

New York Times
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]June 19, 1982[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]Something out there beyond the farthest reaches of the known solar system seems to be tugging at Uranus and Neptune. Some gravitational force keeps perturbing the two giant planets, causing irregularities in their orbits. The force suggests a presence far away and unseen, a large object that may be the long- sought Planet X. The last time a serious search of the skies was made it led to the discovery in 1930 of Pluto, the ninth planet. But the story begins more than a century before that, after the discovery of Uranus in 1781 by the English astronomer and musician William Herschel. Until then, the planetary system seemed to end with Saturn.Today, scientists accept theories concerning plate tectonics. There are articles and studies showing that, at one time, all of Earth continents were on one side of the planet. What the stories don't explore is the question, if all the continents were on one side, what was on the other? The other side has been described as a tremendous gap, matching the Sumerian story of how the Earth came about. The Sumerians said Earth was really half a planet called Tiamat, which broke up in a collision with Nibiru, [or Planet X].[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]The discovery of new planets has, in the last two hundred years, owed more to the science of mathematics than it has to the design of bigger and better telescopes. The unaccounted-for mathematical irregularities in the orbits of the outer planets have prompted astronomers to speculate upon the existence of a further, undiscovered planet. Astronomers are so certain of this planet's existence that they have already named it 'Planet X' - the Tenth Planet[/SIZE][/FONT]

All I see is a lot of words like "may be", "speculate", etc. I think a big giant was merely playing marbles out there. That's my speculation.
Besides, since when has the news media ever explained anything scientific accurately?

 

[Tonington]

when was a tsunami
26 December 2004 tsunami.

On Sunday, 26 December 2004, the greatest earthquake in 40 years occurred about 150 kilometers off the west coast of northern Sumatra Island

Right, a full year later. Tsunami's aren't that rare, the same thing as flood occurrence intervals, or earthquakes, or meteors for that matter. The long term average wasn't upset in 2003, as predicted it would.

That's another failure in a long list.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

if your going to open your mouth make sure you know what your talking about first Dexter

Are you telling us that Planet X DID show up in the spring of 2003 as those people believed it would? I guess every professional and amateur astronomer on the planet somehow missed that close approach, and somehow a massive gravitating object entered the inner solar system and didn't disrupt the orbit of anything already here. How is this possible, Oh Knower of All? :roll:

 

[quandary121]

Are you telling us that Planet X DID show up in the spring of 2003 as those people believed it would? I guess every professional and amateur astronomer on the planet somehow missed that close approach, and somehow a massive gravitating object entered the inner solar system and didn't disrupt the orbit of anything already here. How is this possible, Oh Knower of All? :roll:

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]New York Times[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]June 19, 1982[/SIZE][/FONT]
[SIZE=+1]Origin Time and Epicenter[/SIZE]
The great tsunamigenic earthquake occurred on Sunday, 26 December 2004, at 00:58:50 UTC (6:58:50 a.m. local time). The epicenter was at 3.298 N, 95.779 E and its focal depth was very shallow (much less than 33 km - possibly about 10km)
[SIZE=+1]Magnitude and Energy Release[/SIZE]
The quake was widely felt in Sumatra, the Nicobar and Andaman Islands, Malaysia, Myanmar, Singapore, Thailand, Bangladesh and India.
According to the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)), the moment magnitude of the earthquake - which is larger than the Richter magnitude - was 9. Such magnitude would make this earthquake to be the fourth largest in the world since 1900 - and the largest since the 1964 Alaska earthquake.
However, on the basis of subsequent analysis of additional seismograms from around the world, scientists at Northwestern University determined the earthquake's magnitude to be 9.3 and not 9.0, as originally estimated. Therefore, the calculated energy release was 1.13 X 10 (raised to the 30 power) dynes-cm , or three times larger than originally thought. The revised estimate makes this earthquake to be the second largest ever instrumentally recorded. The largest earthquake ever recorded, which measured 9.5, was in Chile on May 22, 1960.

 

[quandary121]

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Japanese scientists eye Planet X CandidateTOKYO (AFP) - Scientists at a Japanese university said Thursday they believed another planet up to two-thirds the size of the Earth was orbiting in the far reaches of the solar system...
Learn More

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Click here to view "Planet X / Nibiru Research Slides"[/FONT]

 

[quandary121]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1) What is the latest research for the discovery of a planet X? The Japanese found something?[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Recently in 2008, Japanese Astronomers at Kobe University lead by Dr. Mukai have plotted a planet with a diameter at least the size of earth should exist in our solar system on a highly elliptical orbit.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Large ‘Planet X’ may lurk beyond Pluto[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Hidden world would explain dynamics of solar system’s outer region. And would possibly confirm the ancient knowledge about "Nibiru".[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Learn More[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Image references:
http://xfacts.com/updates/PX-plane_SS2_belts.jpg[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]http://www.org.kobe-u.ac.jp/cps/IMAGE/Planetoid-edgeon.png[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This once again raises the Astronomical community eye to the question of a planet x, another planet in our solar system beyond Pluto.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]2) How long have we been looking for a planet X?[/FONT]


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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]All throughout modern astronomy we have references to a "10th planet" or "planet x" being cited as the cause to explain anomalies in the orbital patters of the planets. Since the late 1980's with the research of Dr. Harrington, Planet X has been knocked back and worth as to whether or not the planet actually exists.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Image references:[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]http://www.xfacts.com/MUFON_LA/image03.html[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]http://www.xfacts.com/MUFON_LA/image04.html[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Only recently in the year 2004 and beyond did we start to discover new "planetoid" bodies floating beyond Pluto. Some of these like Xena, or Qaorar are nothing more than large chucks or mainly ice. Not to be considered a planet.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Image references:[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]http://xfacts.com/sedna_planetx_2004.htm[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3) What is so important about a planet x?[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Pluto was only discovered in 1930, and even then orbital perturbations were detected which lead them to believe a yet undetected large object is still out there affecting the orbits of the planets. Only recently with the development of more advanced infrared telescopes and advanced computational mathematics are we able to finally image and pinpoint new planets in or beyond our solar system.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Interestingly enough, the first planet image around another sun (not ours) by the Hubble filmed a planet on a highly elliptical orbit around its sun. Until this footage, astronomers had never seen a planet on such a highly elliptical orbit. This led astronomers to ask how such a planet would extend so far into the depths of space and still continue its orbit back in our direction.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Image Reference:
http://mars-earth.com/2003_update/Slide56.html[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]4) Could planet X have killed the Dinosaurs, what is the Nemesis theory?[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]When we pointed Hubble at new solar systems found, an interesting pattern seemed to emerge. Almost 90% of external solar systems had "2 suns", a binary solar system.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Immediately the idea of a "planet X" in our solar system started to seem more possible with the idea that we also have 2 suns. (binary) However our "other sun" is a failed star or Brown dwarf. Due to the immense dust clouds and debris in space, we have not been able to properly image this star. However the research presented by Dr. Muller at Berkley suggested Nemesis. He projected a large planet that orbited this failed sun dislodged comets in the Ourt cloud sending that debris towards earth inevitably killing the dinosaurs.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Image References:
http://www.xfacts.com/MUFON_LA/image53.html
http://www.xfacts.com/MUFON_LA/image55.html[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]5) How do astronomers go about looking for a planet x? And who are these people?[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]One of the latest space telescopes deployed is called SIRTF - space infrared telescope facility, recently rename to Spitizer. This telescope is special in that it is kept below freezing temperatures and is able to tune it s infrared capability in such a way as to match the temperature of these so called "dust clouds" deep in space allowing for a never seen clarity deep into space.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]John Carr of the Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, and Joan Najita of the National Optical Astronomy Observatory, Tucson, Ariz., developed a new technique using Spitzer's infrared spectrograph to measure and analyze the chemical composition of the gases within protoplanetary disks. These are flattened disks of gas and dust that encircle young stars. Scientists believe they provide the building materials for planets and moons and eventually, over millions of years, evolve into orbiting planetary systems like our own.
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]6) What ancient knowledge is recorded about a planet X?[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]What most astronomers looking for planet x don't know, is that an ancient civilization over 6,000 years old also knew about another planet in our solar system. This ancient civilization produced over 100 of the 1st's for modern civilization and was found in where today's modern day Iraq is now located.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Sumerian Culture located in the land also known as Mesopotamia, Babylon, but originally called Sumer is today's Iraq. This amazing civilization had not only invented writing and mathematics, but had some of the most advanced astronomical data recorded that has been found to exist in the form of a written language and stone artifacts with pictograms.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Image References:[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]http://xfacts.com/x2.htm[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]7) What are the effects "Planet X" may have caused in the past?[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Following in the footsteps of the Sumerian stone tablets, planet x is described to have initially passed by earth billions of years ago disturbing the outer planets. On one of it's passes the main moon of nibiru hit earth cracking half of the planet into what we now call the asteroid belt. In relatively recent times (4,000 years ago?), planet x passed by earth causing gravitational effects to earth which caused part of the ice sheet in Antarctica to crack off significantly raising the water levels world wide instantly. The great flood. There is an actual Sumerian tablet stored in the British museum labeled the "flood tablet" which discloses this very tale.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Image References:[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]http://www.xfacts.com//MUFON_LA/image37.html
http://www.xfacts.com//MUFON_LA/image36.html[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]8) Who were the Sumerians and what did they say about planet x?[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Sumerian's are the 1st recorded civilization on earth. They invited writing, math, agriculture, medicine, courts, law, judges, schools, and even astrology and astronomy. They were master astronomers having cited the distance between the planets and even the correct colors of the outer planets. This should not even be possible without the aid of telescopes from a 6,000 year old civilization. [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]They recorded (accurately) all the planets we know of but included an additional planet which they called "Nibiru". They said our solar system has (12) members in that they counted the nine planets plus our sun (10) our moon (11) and the (12th planet) which is on a highly elliptical orbit and only passes around the sun every 3,600 years.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]9) How could the ancient Sumerians know about so much? Who taught them?[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Sumerian culture, today's Iraq, is credited with over 100 of the 1st's needed in a high civilization. They have left us 1000's of cylinder seals and stone tablets which tell about their daily lives. They also recorded sacred texts on some of these tablets which tell us that if you were to ask a Sumerian man, "how do you know all this advanced math and astronomy?" They have left us an answer written in stone.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]They say "all that we know, we were taught by the ANUNNAKI". The term ANUNNAKI means "those who from heaven to earth came." The Sumerians claim to have lived amongst their LIVING GODS. These ANUNNAKI taught the Sumerians how to record in stone the location from which they came. The ANUNNAKI live on the 12th planet in our solar system which is called NIBIRU. The number (12) has proven to be the root of many sources of information derived from the Sumerian culture that we still use today.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]12 hours in a day / night
12 inches in a foot
12 in a dozen
12 tribes of Israel
12 Disciples of Jesus
12 Greek Olympians
12 houses of the Zodiac (will explain how Sumerians created this)
12 planets in our solar system[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]All Sumerian 1st's.....[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]10) Will planet X be returning in 2012? Will it cause global effects as it has in the past?[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The only culture using 2012 as a reference to pinpoint dates in the future are the Mayans on their LONG COUNT calendar. What most people are not aware of is that the Mayans had several calendars. The LONG COUNT calendar was one of which various PREDICTIONS were said to happen but not always accurate as time has shown us.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Yes, they were master astronomers, but were NOT able to see the future. They predicted in one of the Bactoons from the Long Count that their GOD KULKUKAN was going to return on a certain date. Instead, the Conquistadors showed up and aggressively converted the Mayans to Christianity destroying almost all of the Mayan codec’s.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Aside from the Mayan prediction for an end of time in 2012, there is no astronomical or Sumerian reference citing planet x is anywhere near us nor will it be anytime soon.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The amateur astronomy community has always been very good at finding new objects in our vicinity even before professional telescopes. Just look at Hale-Bopp. If a planet 4-8 times the size of earth comes anywhere near us, trust me, we'll be able to find it.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Jason Martell
Xfacts.com
UFOstream.com[/FONT]

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]From Jason Martell:[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I contacted Dr. Mukai to ask about the size of Planet X he was projecting. He was kind enough to share this information below.[/FONT]

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Dear Jason Martell-san,

Thank you for sending me information.

(Answer from Mukai) Its diameter is expected as 10,000-16,000km (rougly the same
as the size of earth). Other details for Planet X is shown in the web site at http://www.org.kobe-u.ac.jp/cps/press080228_j.html Unfortunately, most of the news in Japanese, but you can get more from PDF file in item 1).

Best regards. Tadashi Mukai

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Tadashi Mukai
Born: May 1945, Osaka, Japan [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]http://harbor.scitec.kobe-u.ac.jp/links.htm[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]It is a long standing big question
when and how the solar system was formed.

The studies of primitive bodies in the current solar system,
e.g., meteorites, comets, asteroids as well as interplanetary dust particles,
have the potential to give the answers because they have preserved the information
on the early phase of the solar system.

　In the field of planetary sciences, we have different approaches to investigate the primitive bodies, namely

● Exploration and laboratory experiments

● Ground-based observations

● Theoretical studies, including numerical simulations, on the
　formation of planetary systems

Combining these methods effectively, we study the origin and evolution of the solar system.[/FONT]

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Overall, articles about these research results have been published in at least three magazines and in several other public news during the January-March 2008 period.

1) New Scientist (United Kingdom)
A world wide science magazine. They published a featured article about the search for
an unknown planet in the outer solar system. It is referred as 'Planet X' in the 11 January
2008 issue of the magazine.
http://www.newscientist.com/contents/issue/2638.html
http://space.newscientist.com/article/mg19726381.600-the-mystery-of-planet-x.html
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The article can be read at the journalist's website too:
http://allesoversterrenkunde.nl/cgi-bin/scripts/db.cgi?ID=755&view_records=1
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]2) Ciel et espace (France)
They published an article in the March 2008 issue.
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3) Galileu (Brazil)
They published an article in the February 2008 issue (n. 199).
http://revistagalileu.globo.com/Revista/Galileu/0,,EDG81253-8489-199,00.html
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]*** NEWS ***
1) spacEurope (Portugal, Europe)
An European blog that publishes interviews with scientists about new research results.
http://spaceurope.blogspot.com/2007/10/here-we-are-again-back-at-dps-and-this.html
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]2) G1 (Brazil)
One of the major news websites in Brazil.
http://g1.globo.com/Noticias/Ciencia/0,,MUL260555-5603,00.html
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]3) Coelum (Italy)
News from the Italian Astronomy Magazine
http://www.coelum.com/index.php?goto=news&nva=2008&nvm=2&id=467
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]4) Astronomie Heute Online (Germany)
Astronomy magazine
http://www.spektrumverlag.de/artikel/939460&_z=798887
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]5) Spiegel Online (Germany)
News website.
http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/weltall/0,1518,524246,00.html
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]6) Wissenschaft (Germany)
News website.
http://www.wissenschaft.de/wissenschaft/news/287367.html
http://www.wissenschaft-online.de/artikel/939550&_z=859070
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]7) Ingenioren Online (Denmark)
News website.
http://ing.dk/artikel/84863?rss
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]8) SG (Hungary)
News website.
http://www.sg.hu/cikkek/57729
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]9) Other news
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Where-is-Planet-X-76401.shtml
http://nyheder.dk.msn.com/nyheder.aspx?cp-documentid=7308251[/FONT]



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[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] ANCIENT NIBIRU CONFIRMED THROUGH SCIENCE

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Orpheous Theory is one of the latest theories released which explains that a "rogue planet" collided with our primitive earth, creating our moon. Almost exactly what the Sumerian describe 6,000 yrs ago...[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]CLICK HERE[/FONT]​

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[quandary121]

Planet X / Nibiru / Just the facts...

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Where is the proof?This is usually the first questions people ask when presented with the idea that Aliens exist, or that we have been visited in the past by ancient astronauts. When a person does gain enough interest to start looking into topics such as Aliens and Ufos, they must wade through a vast amount of information.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I have spent over a decade researching various areas of Ufology. My first interest in Ufology, was sparked by the structures on Mars, and NASA's explanation for the Cydonia region of Mars. Are the "Face" and "Pyramids" on Mars connected with the ancient Pyramids and Sphinx in Egypt?[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This led me to look into many other Megalithic Monuments around the world that are still here today from previous civilizations. Some of the structures including Giza, display architectural and mathematical achievements still unmatched to this day![/FONT]​

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Planet X / Nibiru - What is the difference?[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The term "Nibiru" comes from the Sumerian cuneiform stone tablets and writings that are 6,000 years old. The term Nibiru means "Planet of the crossing". The Sumerian culture is the first recorded civilization on earth, then called Sumerian, today's Iraq. It has been known throughout ensuing time periods as Sumer, Mesopotamia, and Babylon, all the same location for where earth's first culture shows up on earth. The Sumerian Culture is the oldest known civilization we know of based on the artifacts and monuments that still remain.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Stories throughout the english version of the bible, today's modern version, speak of many events that changed the coarse of humanity in our past. If we look at the stories in the bible as historical accounts of what actually took place, then we need to research the origins of these stories. The hebrew version of the bible, known as the Old Testament, which is a much older version than the english translation, is derived from the stories of the Sumerian Culture. When we trace the origins of the Old testament we can see that it is also based on previous translations from subsequent older languages throughout history.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Sumerian culture, the first civilization to invent writing as a complete written language, recorded stories that have been preserved through the modern day biblical passages found in the Old and New testament. All of which speak of a time when man lived among their living gods here on earth. The Sumerians had 7 sacred tablets that explained our creation. These stories preserved in stone, are now told to us in the form of the english version, "7 days of creation".[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]They also had a story of a great flood, and how one of the Gods choose to give a certain Sumerian man knowledge on how to build a boat that could withstand the great flood. All the stories in the bible are just translated versions of the original Sumerian Texts that we still have today preserved in stone, unchanged.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Sumerians tell us that their Gods, taught them all the amazing knowledge that the Sumerian Culture possessed, 6,000 years ago. They called their Gods, "anunnaki" which is translated to mean "those who from heaven to earth came"..[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]http://ancientx.com/banner/abmc.asp?b=93&z=1[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]They have left us artifacts and stone tablet pictures that say the anunnaki came from another planet within our own solar system. They call this planet "Nibiru" which is where the anunnaki come from, according to the Sumerian translations. The Sumerians say that the anunnaki live on Nibiru, which has a 3,600 year orbit around our sun. All the other information they state including the color of the outer planets, and even the distance between the planets, has been proven to be accurate. We sent space probes out in the 70's that took the first pictures in color, which confirmed the Sumerian descriptions.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Sumerians were the first to invent over 100 of the first's for a modern culture. All academic references to the origins of writing, math, science, medicine, astronomy, lead to the Sumerian Culture and their amazing artifacts. We still use their math, medicine, science, time, music, astronomy, and many other fields, even to this day.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Sumerian Astronomy translationsSumerian Astronomy (video)[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Sumerian Artifacts[/FONT][/FONT]​

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The term "Planet X" refers to the search for another planet beyond Pluto through mainstream scientific efforts. The space probes sent out by NASA, mainly Voyager, and Pioneer, detected perturbations in the outer planets which suggested that there is still another planet, or heavenly body beyond Pluto that is affecting the orbits of the outer planets. Some of the latest public knowledge about this research done by NASA was conducted by Dr. Robert Harrington, who was the lead astronomer at NASA's Naval Observatory in Washington. (now deceased)[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Planet X searched for by astronomers during the last two or three decades is the planet that was believed to be affecting the orbit of Neptune - once the effects of Uranus on Neptune had been taken into account. Lowell and several other astronomers made extensive searches and calculations in the region of sky that they had calculated as the position for the missing planet.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Then, Sept 30, 1846 --- one week after the discovery of Neptune, Le Verrier declared that there may be still another unknown planet out there. On October 10, Neptune's large moon Triton was discovered, which yielded an easy way to accurately determine the mass of Neptune, which turned out to be 2% larger than expected from the perturbations upon Uranus.[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Finally, astronomer Tombaugh found Pluto in 1930 - albeit six degrees away from the calculated point of their search for another planet beyond Neptune at that time.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]It was quickly realized that Pluto was too small to have the supposed gravitational effect on Neptune, and so the search went on beyond Pluto, for yet one more missing planet, that we know call Planet X.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Dr. Harrington's NASA archived Research[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Dr. Harrington / NASA's Planet X (Video)[/FONT]
http://xfacts.com/x.htm​

 

[Tonington]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]New York Times[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]June 19, 1982[/SIZE][/FONT]
[SIZE=+1]Origin Time and Epicenter[/SIZE]
The great tsunamigenic earthquake occurred on Sunday, 26 December 2004, at 00:58:50 UTC (6:58:50 a.m. local time). The epicenter was at 3.298 N, 95.779 E and its focal depth was very shallow (much less than 33 km - possibly about 10km)
[SIZE=+1]Magnitude and Energy Release[/SIZE]
The quake was widely felt in Sumatra, the Nicobar and Andaman Islands, Malaysia, Myanmar, Singapore, Thailand, Bangladesh and India.
According to the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)), the moment magnitude of the earthquake - which is larger than the Richter magnitude - was 9. Such magnitude would make this earthquake to be the fourth largest in the world since 1900 - and the largest since the 1964 Alaska earthquake.
However, on the basis of subsequent analysis of additional seismograms from around the world, scientists at Northwestern University determined the earthquake's magnitude to be 9.3 and not 9.0, as originally estimated. Therefore, the calculated energy release was 1.13 X 10 (raised to the 30 power) dynes-cm , or three times larger than originally thought. The revised estimate makes this earthquake to be the second largest ever instrumentally recorded. The largest earthquake ever recorded, which measured 9.5, was in Chile on May 22, 1960.

Right, that's an earthquake, not a large gravity object passing by Earth. We don't need a yet undocumented planetoid/comet to explain large Earthquakes.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Yes, that's all very nice Q, but that object does not have the characteristics ascribed to Planet X and you haven't answered the questions anybody's put to you. You just toss up more stuff about earthquakes and tsunamis without actually offering any sound evidence this Planet X actually exists and is the cause of them. Your logic goes this way: if Planet X exists it would cause catastrophes on earth, catastrophes do sometimes occur on earth, therefore Planet X exists. That doesn't make the case.

 

[L Gilbert]

10th planet? We only have 8 now.