Newspapers Urge President to Quit

[FiveParadox]

The Controversy of Impeachment

In the United States, is talk of impeachment really as controversial as this discussion would imply? In Canada, during this past Thirty-eighth Parliament, talks of non-confidence have been plentiful, and I didn't see anywhere near the kind of reaction that some citizens of the United States would seem to have in relation to the same sentiment toward President Bush.

 

[jimmoyer]

The critical mass needed to make IMPEACHMENT
real is nowhere near happening right now.

People are letting the issues sort out.

The public is quite intuitive some times.

 

[Curiosity]

Was this the little punch the ACLU has been dreaming up or are we expecting yet another round from them...

The ACLU has gone way beyond their original vision and have become so politicized they have lost their way.

Editorials aren't paid for and I understand the ACLU have paid for an ad....so I guess there is more stuff to be put on the backs of the public.

I don't agree with everything the ACLU says, but 90% of the time they are spot on.

ITN

Of course you do - we all want to believe what they are saying their mission is, and what they are doing presently is for the good of the "people".

Don't be swayed by their new song. The ACLU have lost their way under misguided leadership and even one of the original leaders is distressed at the recent behavior - they have long stopped caring about Civil Liberties for you and I - they have become so politicized
they are now taking a definite side in all their issues.

Unless they can walk the middle ground, they are lost.

Civil liberties means "liberty for all" - even the members of congress and the president. They are impeding progress in the country, spending untold amounts of money on useless campaigns for unimportant issues rather than looking at the one major issue which needs to be address and one which they are enhancing:

The division of the country and the feeding of our enemies - those who do not wish to see democracy the success it has become. To pander to the sneering press who feed propaganda at every turn, encouraging those who wish to see us bend over...and give up.

This isn't an athletic contest where there are teams - and unless the government commences to work instead of fillibuster, they should all be fired and the ACLU thrown out with the dirty dealings which are the "present work of the government" to screw the other guy instead of keeping our society humming along in economic health, benefitting all the other countries to which we conribute as well.

 

[ElPolaco]

Gee ITN. You always sound like a rational moderate and then tex comes along and makes you look like a leftist. I know that people like you and the aclu aren't going to get the US attacked again. Tex doesn't realize it's going to be people like me who are receiving payments from al queda.

 

[I think not]

Re: RE: Newspapers Urge President to Quit

Gee ITN. You always sound like a rational moderate and then tex comes along and makes you look like a leftist. I know that people like you and the aclu aren't going to get the US attacked again. Tex doesn't realize it's going to be people like me who are receiving payments from al queda.

:sign5:

Good one Polaco, and yes I very much consider myself moderate, others would place me on the extreme left or right. Go ACLU

 

[Texas1]

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Other then when it happens I’ll come back with the proverbial “I told you so”

If you say so wing

During the CIA raids in Afghanistan in early 2002 that captured Abu Zubaydah and his associates, the government seized computers, cell phones and personal phone books. Soon after the raids, the National Security Agency began trying to listen to calls placed to the phone numbers found in al-Qaida Rolodexes.

That was true even if you were “an American citizen” making the call from U.S. territory — like convicted al-Qaida associate Iyman Faris who, after being arrested, confessed to plotting to bring down the Brooklyn Bridge. If you think the government should not be spying on people like Faris, I’ve got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

By intercepting phone calls to people on Zubaydah’s speed-dial, the NSA arrested not only “American citizen” Faris, but other Arab terrorists, including al-Qaida members plotting to bomb British pubs and train stations

and you were saying?

 

[jjw1965]

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What liberties did you give up? were you making calls to iraq or iran ?

You have something to hide?

NAS you catch that, this guy has something to hide, get his IP and pay him a visit.

As always "if your doing nothing wrong, then you have nothing to worry about" What BS! I don't like the ideal that my e-mails can be read, my phone calls listened to, and my private life put under a damm microscope. Hitler pulled the same crap on the german people all in the name of security.

People who give up essential liberty for security deserve neither liberty or security ~ Ben Franklin ~

I think everyone should take a little of their time to read the actual "Patriot Act" for thier selves and see what crap it really is!

 

[Semperfi_dani]

RE: Newspapers Urge Presi

I don't know why when the newspapers for SOOOO LONG gave the President more leeway than he should have been entitled to and did not question or push the issue when this was unfolding in the first place (both the iraq issue..and for that matter, not asking harder question about the nature of the newly created Department of Homeland security)... can now come out on the moral high ground on this and say "he must go".

They failed in their reporting responsibilities for sooo freaking long this last little while that for them to even attempt to come out now as the protectors of the American people reeks of desperation and grandstanding.