NDP Policies

Calberty

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Be careful of the NDP hidden agenda. See that smirk on layton's face? He's been compared to a used car salesman.
 

the caracal kid

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thanks rev.

yes, i do apply the same standards to all the parties. (which is why i am for exporting harper to the US where he seems like he would be happier. tee hee.)
 

Reverend Blair

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yes, i do apply the same standards to all the parties.

Most don't. There's a tendency to look at provincial parties and say that the federal parties are just like them.

Something that's important is that people look at the policies to see if they are similar and the record of the politicians involved, including their record before they entered politics. A lot of politicians, Stephen Harper for instance, would prefer that you never do that.
 

Finder

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Re: RE: NDP Policies

Calberty said:
Be careful of the NDP hidden agenda. See that smirk on layton's face? He's been compared to a used car salesman.

secret Agenda of keeping the universal Health care system, Better Educational system and protecting equility in Canada. Sounds like a secret Agenda I'll go for any day. Thanks you sold me on him =-D
 

Colpy

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Re: RE: NDP Policies

Finder said:
Calberty said:
Be careful of the NDP hidden agenda. See that smirk on layton's face? He's been compared to a used car salesman.

secret Agenda of keeping the universal Health care system, Better Educational system and protecting equility in Canada. Sounds like a secret Agenda I'll go for any day. Thanks you sold me on him =-D

Yeah. Better health care. Right.

I just watched Layton telling Klein in a speech to "back off". Is he NUTS?

Alberta just managed to severely slash wait times on orthopedic surgery.

BACK OFF?

This blind, almost religious dedication to an ideological ideal is insanity.

Go with what works.

Let the provinces experiment.
 

Roy

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Nov 23, 2005
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Layton is insignificant in Alberta and his telling Klein to back off is nothing more that election posturing, not in Alberta, but the rest of Canada. But honestly no one cares and it receives little media attention here in Alberta. It would probably be different if Paul Martin had made that comment.

But you are right Colpy about Alberta being able to severely cut wait times on Orthopedic surgery. The Alberta health ministry provided funding for teams of nurses, orthopedics specialists, and physiotherapists in Calgary, Edmonton and Red Deer and some of the surgeries were contracted out to private clinics. I have to say that the results are damn good with wait times to see specialists and also to undergo the procedure extremely cut. In the case of actualy undergoing the procedure after seeing a specialist the wait time dropped to 4.7 weeks from 47 weeks.

Medical teams providing the 1 stop shopping seem to be a great idea and the Alberta gov't is looking use the same tactics to tackle other areas such as mental health and cancer. So Layton can ignore progress based on his idealogical ideals all he wants but it ain't gonna win him any seats in Alberta.
 

Finder

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Re: RE: NDP Policies

Colpy said:
Finder said:
Calberty said:
Be careful of the NDP hidden agenda. See that smirk on layton's face? He's been compared to a used car salesman.

secret Agenda of keeping the universal Health care system, Better Educational system and protecting equility in Canada. Sounds like a secret Agenda I'll go for any day. Thanks you sold me on him =-D

Yeah. Better health care. Right.

I just watched Layton telling Klein in a speech to "back off". Is he NUTS?

Alberta just managed to severely slash wait times on orthopedic surgery.

BACK OFF?

This blind, almost religious dedication to an ideological ideal is insanity.

Go with what works.

Let the provinces experiment.

My ex-girl lives in Alberta and when I usta go there I can tell you the state of the health care system for the poor. Puplic healthcare should not be touched by people like him and he is one of the reasons the puplic system is heading into crisis. Mike Harris was stopped thank gawd before our system was brought to the level of Alberta's!
 

Paranoid Dot Calm

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Speaking of the NDP and corruption ....

If the NDP just kept half of their promises .... I'd let them steal a million a day and I'd still be ahead of the game. I'm quite prepared to pay anyone a million a day just to keep their promises once they are elected. Sort of like a reward or an incentive.

It's the clowns who don't keep their promises and yet still feel entitled to rewards that puts me over the edge.
Calm
 

Finder

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Paranoid Dot Calm said:
Speaking of the NDP and corruption ....

If the NDP just kept half of their promises .... I'd let them steal a million a day and I'd still be ahead of the game.

Calm

oh please! They've never run a Fed government so how can they keep there promises when they don't even get the chance to break them. Look at the conservatives and Liberals the people have voted in time and again, each time a new scandle a new corruption or another let down.

I may not be a big fan of the Ontario NDP's government in the early 90's but one thing people could say about them was they were neither corrupted and they did what they said they were going to do. I can't say as much for the ontario liberals otr the fed liberals!
 

Paranoid Dot Calm

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Hi! Finder

I'm an NDP supporter. So, try and read my post with that in mind and it may make better sense to you.

It was the advertising blitz paid for by corporations and the anti-Rae billboards put up all over the province that destroyed Bob Rae. The Harris 10 second sound bites did Rae in and all suported by the established media.

Calm
 

Finder

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Paranoid Dot Calm said:
Hi! Finder

I'm an NDP supporter. So, try and read my post with that in mind and it may make better sense to you.

It was the advertising blitz paid for by corporations and the anti-Rae billboards put up all over the province that destroyed Bob Rae. The Harris 10 second sound bites did Rae in and all suported by the established media.

Calm


Rae was also not very populer and won the election because of the FPTP which he didn't even replace. He had a very low I believe the lowest ever for ontario for pop vote while holding a magority in seats. That election Harris won was because of the economics of the day and they were pretty bad because Ontario suffered during the ression and because the NDP were in power they took the heat and still have not regain there base here from the Rae government.

But yes the "Common sence revolution" was the biggest buzz word of the day.
 

Reverend Blair

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Common Sense Revolution was nothing more than a buzzword though. Harris had about as much common sense as a drunk swimming in a vat of gin.

Who the hell appoints a high school dropout as Minister of Education? What kind of common sense is that? It isn't. It's the nonsensical approach of a greedy pig who worships stupidity and depends on ignorance.

We see the same kind of attitude in the policies of Stephen Harper. Nothing matters except the the friends of Stephen Harper. Oddly enough, Stevie and Paulie have the same bunch of friends...men in suits with greedy eyes and buckets of cash to buy favours with. That's why so many of Harper's policies look like the actions of Martin...they are owned by the same masters.
 

Reverend Blair

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hmmm thought I implyed that.

You did, I just thought it was worth expanding on. I really can't say enough bad things about Mike Harris. :D

I remember the days of protest back in Harris days, more so during his first term. I still can't believe he won a second term.

I remember the homeless demonstration that turned into a police riot pretty specifically. It must have been really bad to get people that disenfranchised to try to talk back.

I also remember reading something by a reporter who found himself blocked from entering the US due to writing about that protest. Politicians who try to intimidate the press like that really piss me off.
 

MMMike

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Paranoid Dot Calm said:
It was the advertising blitz paid for by corporations and the anti-Rae billboards put up all over the province that destroyed Bob Rae. The Harris 10 second sound bites did Rae in and all suported by the established media.

Calm

Ah yes, that oft discussed conservative bias in the media? :p
 

Colpy

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Reverend Blair said:
Ah yes, that oft discussed conservative bias in the media?

Global, CTV, the National Post, The Sun. Even the so-called Liberal papers are centre-right.

Yes there is a conservative bias in the mainstream press.

:roll: :D :roll: :D :roll: :D :roll: :D :roll: :D :roll: :D :roll: :D

With all due respect Rev., you only see things that way because you are so far out in left field that Leon Trotsky appears to be a moderate from your perspective.
 

Reverend Blair

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NDP press release:


RCMP Launches Criminal Investigation Of Liberal Government

Wed 28 Dec 2005

NDP Calls on Finance Minister Goodale to step aside
OTTAWA - Royal Canadian Mounted Police Commissioner Giuliano Zaccardelli has written to NDP Finance critic Judy Wasylycia-Leis to confirm that that the RCMP has launched a criminal investigation into the Liberal government, related to the income trust issue.

Letter from RCMP to Judy Wasylycia-Leis
Mr. Zaccardelli confirmed that the RCMP has launched a criminal investigation "regarding a possible breach of security or illegal transfer of information in advance of the federal government's announcement of changes to the taxation of Canadian corporate dividends and income trusts November 23, 2005."

In light of this development, Wasylycia-Leis today called on Liberal Finance Minister Ralph Goodale to step aside from his Cabinet role, until the criminal investigation is complete.

"Mr. Goodale is personally responsible to ensure his office and his department protect average Canadians from the consequences of improper disclosures," Wasylycia-Leis said. "Mr. Goodale has stonewalled this issue for a month now, insisting without any qualification that there is nothing to this issue. There is now a criminal investigation underway. Since the conduct of Mr. Goodale's office and officials are likely to be directly involved, Mr. Goodale should step aside from his duties as Finance Minister today."


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