NDP Have BIG plans in BC again!!!

[insignificant]

Well that is the truth.
* Oil is way up
*Copper is way up
*Gold is way up.
*Natural gas has gone up
*Coal Has gone up steeply. So much Western Canadian coal is opening a mine in the North East. Near Tumbler Ridge

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According to the Canadian Federation of Independant Business:

BC Small and Medium Size business have the Strongest Optimism in the country (which means the number of businesses expecting stronger performance over the next 12 months)
BC: 68.1% (highest in the country)
Nat'l Avg: 52.6%

41% of businesses plan on increasing their full time staff over the next 12 months (compared to 33% nationally). Only 4% of businesses plan to decrease their staffing levels.

92% of small business owners share Gordon Campbells Vision to be a top performing Canadian Economy by 2010.

I am in small business, and my revenues ARE NOT TIED to high energy prices, nor are they tied to lower interest rates! So to simply say that this is the sole cause of our booming economy is false.

An NDP gov't will doscourage investment in BC, which will see jobs, tax dollars, and improved infrastructure go to other business friendly provinces such as Alberta.

Our gov;t needs to work to pay off our provincial debt. We then could invest money which is now being spent on interest costs into health care and education. If we make our debt BIGGER, we will see more of our tax dollars being wasted on INTEREST, which comes right out of money that could goto gov't services (or tax cuts) or a combination of both.

Government Services and a Healthy Economy go hand-in-hand. Business owners need health care too, however, it is business people who understand how to effectively spend our tax dollars!

Full Article: http://www.cfib.ca/legis/bc/index.asp

 

[no1important]

RE: NDP Have BIG plans in

As for paying to see the doctor... I already do. I pay over $1700/year, whether I go or not. I also pay for each and every dental visit, as I don't have those benefits from work.

Unionize then.:wink:

 

[insignificant]

Unionize then.

good idea - NOT

 

[no1important]

Unionize then.

good idea - NOT

Why Not? It will save her dental fees and $1700 a year in MSP premiums. Plus all the extra benefits.

 

[insignificant]

Why Not? It will save her dental fees and $1700 a year in MSP premiums. Plus all the extra benefits.

because the business will move away before that happens! Get with the 21st Century! :roll:

 

[Reverend Blair]

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An excellent example of whty we need federal legislation to stop union-busting.

 

[insignificant]

An excellent example of whty we need federal legislation to stop union-busting.

That would be a good way to put Canada at a competetive dissadvantage with the rest of the world, and send our jobs to the US

 

[LadyC]

Unionize then.

good idea - NOT

Why Not? It will save her dental fees and $1700 a year in MSP premiums. Plus all the extra benefits.

Ah, yes. The union attitude... what's in it for me? :roll:

I'm self-employed.

Well that is what your posts imply.

No, they don't. You've taken the simplistic approach and said "if you think this then you must believe this".

My world is not black and white.

 

[insignificant]

Ah, yes. The union attitude... what's in it for me?

I'm self-employed.

Hahaha - Priceless! :lol: Unionize yourself!!! But just think LADYC, you could get all of those great benefits - FOR FREE!

 

[MMMike]

Ladyc, you should unionize... and then go on strike! Make that ruthless employer see the light! :wink: :lol:

 

[insignificant]

ya - and demand overtime and a 30 hour work week! Grrrr...teach da man whos boss

 

[OakServe]

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If he locates his career outside of Canada then he will be sent a bill for his education.

Which I'm sure he'll pay promptly.

So you do not support %100 privatization of post secondary education?

Which is it, oak? You're the one claiming to know what I do and don't support.

Why don't you answer my question instead of speaking out of your ass like that. If the government of BC wanted to %100 privatize post secondary, would you be ok with it?

Aside from all the tuition talk, I would just like to say that at the last provincial election I took time to read the candidates in my riding and as the days ticked down I began to ignore the party and the leader of each candidate and focused on the candidate himself. I encourage this approach for other BC'ers this election, try to read up on the candidates of your riding and see who you want to represent your neighbourhood. It's a good idea to consider the party and the corresponding premier-candidate involved with your vote but don't forget to read up on your actual riding

 

[LadyC]

My ass speaks for itself, Oak.

I don't really need to answer your question. Not only is it irrelevant to this discussion, the only reason it came up in the first place was because you presumed to tell me what I thought of the issue.

But since you're being so insistent...
The government should pay part, but the students should pay the rest. The tuition freeze was a ploy to buy votes. It did more harm than good in the long run. As has been shown, tuition rates in B.C. compare favourably with those in the rest of the country.... after the hikes.

As to all the union stuff. I'm not sure why it was funny that I'm self-employed, perhaps I missed something. I've never joined a union, never had a desire to. If my employer didn't treat me right I found a different job. I've found mutual respect goes a lot further than a union contract. I've never needed seniority to keep a job... I prefer to work hard.

 

[LadyC]

It's a good idea to consider the party and the corresponding premier-candidate involved with your vote but don't forget to read up on your actual riding

The NDP is a non-entity in my riding. This time it looks to be a tight race between the Liberal incumbent and an independent. It should get interesting.

 

[OakServe]

RE: NDP Have BIG plans in

I don't know why it's so hard for you to answer a question Lady, but thanks for finally doing so. By the way, almost anyone can acquire a student loan to pay for their education, and then take off for the states once they graduate. How would that be any different than my suggestion?

If he locates his career outside of Canada then he will be sent a bill for his education.

The only difference is that no matter what your situation is, you have to pay the student loan. But under my suggested solution, you only have to pay your debts if you work outside of Canada. I would go a step further and make it provincial, i.e. if you take schooling at a BC university then you will only be billed for it if you work outside of BC.

I have to admit I didn't think this all up on my own, it's a policy of the BC Green Party. And a good policy at that, in my opinion.

 

[LadyC]

I didn't answer before because you seemed to be privy to my opinions already.

What you're suggesting is that people take out a loan that wouldn't have to be repaid if they remained in Canada, is that it? That's different from what you first posted, where you said that education should be free for those who opt to stay.

Send him a bill. I bet he doesn't pay it.

 

[OakServe]

RE: NDP Have BIG plans in

Well I edited it to make it a provincial thing. And i've never once claimed to know your opinions on anything, I only asked you in earnest what you felt on a subject.

Once again I remind you that currently anyone can obtain a student loan to pay for his education, and then move to the states or wherever despite his debt. How is that any different?

 

[LadyC]

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And i've never once claimed to know your opinions on anything, I only asked you in earnest what you felt on a subject.

I just realized that you want universties to be %100 private.

Once again I remind you that currently anyone can obtain a student loan to pay for his education, and then move to the states or wherever despite his debt. How is that any different?

Degree of naiveté.
Okay, how about this, then. Will you guarantee the graduates a job in their field? If you restrict them to seeking employment in the province you'd better make sure you can hold up your end of the bargain, or most of the students will head to university in Alberta. Or head straight to the U.S.

 

[no1important]

RE: NDP Have BIG plans in

We need Social Programs and if we have to run a deficit once in a while who cares. I don't. People have to come first and Campbell does not understand that. Instead of cutting programs that hurt people run a deficit now and then. More to life than money. We still have a huge debt that will never be paid off in my time.

Campbell idolize's Klein and you can see that in his policies. Making balanced budgets law.:roll:. They have more money and more valuable resources than us, so its easier for Klein to do what he does.

If we are doing so good why do we have to pay MSP premiums then? When I lived in Manitoba, I never recieved a bill, like I would here if I was non union.

Why hasn't the sale tax been lowered. it was 7% when he got in, then he jacked it up to 7.5 then lowered it to 7 as election coming up. So that is not "really lowering" it, just putting it back to what it was. If we are doing so good it should be reduced to 5% or even eliminated. Why do we have the highest "Alcohol taxes" in all of North America still?

If we are doing so good why did he close hospitals? Why do teachers have larger class sizes? Some of the schools have 60-87 % ESL and yet he cuts that.

His cutting "working peoples" wages is where he made all his "savings" just to make books look better.

Campbell has no human compassion. The only thing he cares about is money. He wants to start off-shore drilling to get more supply and money instead of conservation. Make his buddies rich on the backs of the average people.

What will happen if the world commodities tank? Like oil, gold, coal , copper etc? He will be screwed and big cuts will occur as will increased taxes and fees.

He just lucked out as when he got in, as commodities started to go way up, but what goes up comes down.

He is destroying Salmon runs due to no enforcement of fish farms, the lice is killing our salmon, Atlantics are escaping and spawning in Pacific Salmon creeks, the pollution.

So how did the Great King Gordon Campbell respond? He made the regulations more slack and dismissed (forgave, said u don't have to pay them) the millions in fines they were given. So no fines for screwing up environment but more money to his law breaking fish farm buddies.

 

[LadyC]

You know what? I changed my mind. I think we should run up a deficit to increase funding for social programs. We'll need them, with more people being out of a job and all.

Most of your post was emotion-based attacks on the Premier, with little by way of facts to back it up. Case in point...

Campbell has no human compassion. The only thing he cares about is money. He wants to start off-shore drilling to get more supply and money instead of conservation. Make his buddies rich on the backs of the average people.

Off-shore drilling would be a horrible idea. We can't be having our industries do well. They'll just want to hire more workers, and then what will we do with all that money we borrowed to pay for all our social programs?

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Social programs are for those who need help. They should be seen as temporary... unless there are extraordinary circumstances.