My point of view

oceandeep

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It's not just the Vatican, no religion has ever produced an adequate explanation for human suffering. The simplest explanation is that god is a human invention and has no reality except as an idea. That's my point of view.



Hello Dexter.....that's why i posted my point of view to know others thoughts......thanks for sharing yours.

Or from you, as oceandeep will likely learn soon enough.

I blame your admitted stupidity, for your blatant hypocrisy.

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Keep crying little Jimmy.


stupidity is less harmful when admitted rather than those people who believe they are not but shows they perfectly are.
 

TenPenny

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For God so love the world, why did he allow the continuous power growth of the vatican and left majority of the people suffer?


Let's see, based on your post, we have to consider the following questions, in order:

1 - Is there a God?
2 - Does he 'love the world'?
3 - Did he allow the 'continuous power growth of the vatican'?
4 - Did the majority of the people suffer?

Based on No 1, I'd say that your post is meaningless. Others may differ, and get further down the list.
 

Cannuck

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It's not just the Vatican, no religion has ever produced an adequate explanation for human suffering. The simplest explanation is that god is a human invention and has no reality except as an idea. That's my point of view.

Adequate? I guess some people believe that we are removed or separated from God and that is where the suffering comes in. Once we find our way back to God, the suffering ends. My problem with that explanation is that it makes God (if he/she does exist) a petty little prick.

That is the problem I have with most of the major religions. I seriously doubt an all-knowing, all-seeing omnipotent being really needs anything from me. Worship me or I'll smite you is such a childish way for the lord of the universe to behave. I doubt his/her ego would be so fragile.
 

DaSleeper

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Easter is coming...they're coming out of the woodwork....as I predicted... like cockroaches


Another drive-by from our local twit...


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Sparrow

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Here goes. I believe in God but have lost my belief in the church. God gave us FREE WILL to choose the road we take. Also it is why he will not interfere whatever road someone chooses bad or good. We were born with free will and a brain to use as we decide, the problem is some make bad decisions. Often they don't start off with very good intentions but along the way, sometimes due to outside influence they deviate from their initial path and just keep going down that road.

God doesn't let anything happen it is the human that is the cause, just look at religion.
 

gopher

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Ok...I'll give my opinion... my opinion is that you are just another troll who enjoys bashing Christians. You go from forum to forum, bashing Christians untill you are banned and then move on to the next forum. Guess what, it ain't gonna work at this forum, I'll tear you a new one faster than you can type.

Bashing Christians? It's called equal time.

After all, bashing Muslims is not unusual here:

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/news/104858-fed-up-islam-yet.html
 

oceandeep

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Let's see, based on your post, we have to consider the following questions, in order:

1 - Is there a God?
2 - Does he 'love the world'?
3 - Did he allow the 'continuous power growth of the vatican'?
4 - Did the majority of the people suffer?

Based on No 1, I'd say that your post is meaningless. Others may differ, and get further down the list.
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I am not questioning God's existence if i have to clear myself here....thank you.
 

Spade

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I am not questioning God's existence if i have to clear myself here....thank you.

Or the existence of Tiw, Woden, Thor, Freja, and Saturn. After all, if they didn't exist, we wouldn't have immortalised them in the names of the days of the week!
According to non-believers, every time you say, "Thank gawd it's Friday," you are breaking the first commandment.
 

morismemo

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There are many of quote and things to prove the existence of God but its impossible to say where he is because we are humans and don't even the jugged a human completely so how any one knows the God and say where he is. . . . ?
 

oceandeep

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Or the existence of Tiw, Woden, Thor, Freja, and Saturn. After all, if they didn't exist, we wouldn't have immortalised them in the names of the days of the week!
According to non-believers, every time you say, "Thank gawd it's Friday," you are breaking the first commandment.



it's better to say, thank goodness, i'm still alive...
 

Niflmir

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Let's see, based on your post, we have to consider the following questions, in order:

1 - Is there a God?
2 - Does he 'love the world'?
3 - Did he allow the 'continuous power growth of the vatican'?
4 - Did the majority of the people suffer?

Based on No 1, I'd say that your post is meaningless. Others may differ, and get further down the list.
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Although I also agree with you on that, I think she was essentially asking that if you take the first two for granted, as many people assert, than how do you justify those statements based on the reality of things?

There are many of quote and things to prove the existence of God but its impossible to say where he is because we are humans and don't even the jugged a human completely so how any one knows the God and say where he is. . . . ?

Wow, a rare agnostic Christian. Don't find so many deists these days.
 

Niflmir

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Not so in Canada. A full 47% do not believe or doubt. And, many of this 47% go to church.

That is not what I am talking about though, I am talking about the traditional meaning of the word agnostic. morismemo expressed a belief in the impossibility of knowledge in God's existence: that is the traditional form of agnosticism. That and a rationalized belief in a god notwithstanding is what separates deism from theism, and it used to be quite controversial.

The current trend of interpreting agnosticism as a weak form of atheism is unfortunate, because it has confused an otherwise completely different intellectual position. If you simply do not believe in a god, you are an atheist (without god) plain and simple; if you believe that it is impossible to know god, then you are an agnostic and you can believe in a god notwithstanding your belief in agnosticism. It is possible to be a gnostic atheist, and it is possible to be an agnostic theist (often called a deist in Western society).