Muslims: Ban un- Islamic schools. . . .
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Did you not know that the burqa is not part of their religion. It is social imposed by men and the women were brainwashed and beaten into believing they wanted it, and in turn brought up their girls to believe the same. This has been going on for so long that today the women willing wear this sign of submission without realizing what it really is.
nope, ur wrong, I'm sorry....for a start, your definition of the south african word for kaffir is empty...it has nothing to do with race....it simply means non-believe, the term was taken from islam...trust me, an "infidel" to a muslim is a kaffir.
Granted herman,
but, my point is - this is about the idiocy of Muslim wankerism and what they expect of the west once they escape the drudge and chains of their religion and their oppresive societies wherever they may be - hopefully not ever here - although the Nevilles amongst us might argue. . . .
but, my point is - this is about the idiocy of Muslim wankerism and what they expect of the west once they escape the drudge and chains of their religion and their oppresive societies wherever they may be - hopefully not ever here - although the Nevilles amongst us might argue. . . .
It may not be only a Muslim problem but on this thread we are talking about Muslims.
What r u - the board pedant?
Go take a look at a myriad of online dictionaries maybe starting with dictionary.com
Once again and encore too - yer welcome. . . .
And i'm saying that being a muslim doesnt automatically mean you're trying to take over the world, as suggested by others
you're generalising again. and "idiocy of muslim wankerism" is a phrase which should not be uttered. I agree with you that the OP shows a suggestion which is unacceptable. But the correct response is not "all muslims are wankers" but "religion and education should be separate".
what the hell?......simply realise that Kaffir isnt a racial slur from apartheid south africa....
I have a lot of muslim friends, we joke about this stuff, I know....why call me a pedant?
It may surprise you to know that I also have a good number of Muslim friends and acquaintances - and I have never heard them use the word 'kaffir' - period - a word utilised in SA since the Dutch et English Invasion of the 1600s - so what?
And the reason I called you a pedant is this fine and upstanding contribution by you to my fine and good and also upstanding self;
Now you know the rest of the story. . . .
However,
upon further investigation it would appear we are both correct, to wit. . . .
So, rather than being subjacent, you could have. . . .
I'm not saying all Muslims are like that. What I am saying is that there are Muslims making unacceptable demands for us to change our ways. When they start attacking our ways in public, such as, swimming pools (school and public), CLSC that give prenatal courses to women from different religions and ethnic groups including their husbands but when a Muslim woman (of certain groups) is taking the course the husbands of the other women are not to be allowed. There was a male doctor in one of our hospitals that got the crap beatten out of him by the patient's husband when he went to examine her, she was a pregnant Muslim woman.
But it is not only these Muslims who are making demands. The Hisidic Jews are also making demands on the YMCA and license offices. Siek RCMP officier wearing his turbin, student wearing the kirpan into our schools. What will be next?
Next will it be banning un-Islamic schools like in Britain and opening of schools where all Muslim children are to be taught in the Taliban style, we really need more Taliban.
When you immigrate to a new country you follow their way of life in public. What you do behind your closed door is no ones business but you own.
I think not said:
Your doubts are DEAD WRONG.
I am calling for universal tolerance, not selective tolerance. But perhaps the error was mine for not being specific enough. If so, I'll accept that I should have given a full explication.
Hope this clarifies my position.
honestly this article really did it's work on you didnt it?
the whole thing was designed to get everybody fired up over the issue and ready to nuke the **** out of Iran or wherever the whacko bush-blair team decides is good food for the machine next. This will never be acceptable in england. We'll never hear any more of it, and kids will continue to have their classes however their school deems is OK, which will probably be however their headmaster feels that particular day. Personally I think the schools should ALL have NO religious influence at all. No dumb prayers in the morning that none of the kids understand or care about, no hymns with words no-one understands or cares about or can even sing very well. Keep that stuff for churches and mosques where the preists and mullahs can teach the meaning instead of going through the motions.
So the article has no base of truth except to get the US and the UK fired up to nuke Iran?
Yeah that makes a lot of sense.
Yeah that makes a lot of sense.
Yes it got me fired up. I did not mentioned our schools because we removed religion and prayers quite a few years ago. This was done because our students were from so many different religions and out of respect for the differences we removed all religion. It wasn't easy because this province was very Roman Catholic, they had prayers twice a day, religious pictures and statues all over the place, religious instruction. We now practice our religion, whatever it is, in our homes and churches and the majority of Muslim do the same thing. Respect goes both ways, but as it is now it is pretty onesided, here I will specify that I am talking about the fanatics.
I forgot to mention that in Ontario they tried to get Sharia law passed by the government. However the gov. declared that no other law will be accepted, no religion laws no matter what the religion.
@ Karra, bit of revisionist history there:
The European slave trade didn't really kick up till the Africa-to-Persia route broke down when Mali (at the time the richest nation in the world, the size of western europe with a bigger and more modern military to boot) suffered the twin idiot kings, Abubakari II who sent himself and the Entire Mali fleet (some 2,400 ships in two goes) heading west to find the legendary America's, which he probably heard through Norse legend (this is in the 1300's) needless to say he didn't make it. At this point the Portugese fleet started showing up and making contact. Then Mansa Musa took over from Abubakari and went accross the Sahara on a Hajj where he blew so much gold the price of gold was devalued in Cairo for 7 years. He kinda bankrupted the Nation. To make up his losses he started selling slaves not only from weaker tribes of Africans (whom they considered lesser people, Kuffar) but from Vassal kingdoms. War ensued, kingdom fell, Portugese took over the trade ended up being by sea instead of accross the Sahara and the Mali people ended up being sold to work as slaves to the same Arab and now European nobles they used to sell slaves too.
The term Kuffar/Kaffir was then mistaken simply to mean "black and therefore lesser" rather than "lesser blacks" by the Europeans.
* The more you know *
The European slave trade didn't really kick up till the Africa-to-Persia route broke down when Mali (at the time the richest nation in the world, the size of western europe with a bigger and more modern military to boot) suffered the twin idiot kings, Abubakari II who sent himself and the Entire Mali fleet (some 2,400 ships in two goes) heading west to find the legendary America's, which he probably heard through Norse legend (this is in the 1300's) needless to say he didn't make it. At this point the Portugese fleet started showing up and making contact. Then Mansa Musa took over from Abubakari and went accross the Sahara on a Hajj where he blew so much gold the price of gold was devalued in Cairo for 7 years. He kinda bankrupted the Nation. To make up his losses he started selling slaves not only from weaker tribes of Africans (whom they considered lesser people, Kuffar) but from Vassal kingdoms. War ensued, kingdom fell, Portugese took over the trade ended up being by sea instead of accross the Sahara and the Mali people ended up being sold to work as slaves to the same Arab and now European nobles they used to sell slaves too.
The term Kuffar/Kaffir was then mistaken simply to mean "black and therefore lesser" rather than "lesser blacks" by the Europeans.
* The more you know *
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Infidel/ non-believer is a adequate translation for Kaffir. A kaffir or kafar is someone who commits 'kofr' or blasphemy. I am Iranian-Canadian and do not speak Arabic (The majority of Iranians speak Farsi or Persian), but this was drilled into us in "religious studies" in high school in Iran. From my experience, it is usually used to refer to an enemy of the religion, as opposed to a non-muslim.
Off topic, I remember that I had Jewish and Armanian-Christian class-mates who were excused from muslim religious classes (which are part of the curriculum there) provided they could show that they attended an equivalent class at a Jewish or Christian school.
Off topic, I remember that I had Jewish and Armanian-Christian class-mates who were excused from muslim religious classes (which are part of the curriculum there) provided they could show that they attended an equivalent class at a Jewish or Christian school.