Muslim immigrants will be expelled from Europe

[sanch]

Re: RE: Muslim immigrants will be expelled from Europe

My apologies for "failing to respond." While I enjoy this forum, school is more important.

Nevertheless, I shall respond now; yes, if there is a warrant issued for someone's arrest, then perhaps a higher degree of scrutiny could be understood; however, in this particular situation, where there have been no reports of Muslims committing crimes in Canada in relation to this situation, there should be no reason to increase security domestically.[/quote]

Canada has increased security since 9/11 and this security is very selectively targeted. This is true for the entire world. Governments share intelligence and individuals are tracked whether they are in Sweden, Pakistan or Canada.

One has to remember even with the ineptness of HRDC handling SIN numbers internal security in Canada is much tighter than the US. In the US millions work without papers while it is difficult to do so in Canada. The reason is that Big Brother is watching very closely in Canada. In Canada all family members of anyone applying for landed immigrant status or being sponsored are put through a very vigorous security check which is different than a criminal check. This is why approval of an application from Asia can take up to 5 years.

 

[Mogz]

Nevertheless, I shall respond now; yes, if there is a warrant issued for someone's arrest, then perhaps a higher degree of scrutiny could be understood; however, in this particular situation, where there have been no reports of Muslims committing crimes in Canada in relation to this situation, there should be no reason to increase security domestically.

Tell that to the Edmonton Jewish teen beat with baseball bats by three Muslims last month. I'm sure he deserved it, the dirty Jew :roll:

 

[Freethinker]

Re: RE: Muslim immigrants will be expelled from Europe

My apologies for "failing to respond." While I enjoy this forum, school is more important.

Nevertheless, I shall respond now; yes, if there is a warrant issued for someone's arrest, then perhaps a higher degree of scrutiny could be understood; however, in this particular situation, where there have been no reports of Muslims committing crimes in Canada in relation to this situation, there should be no reason to increase security domestically.

I bring it up because this seem to be a deeply held belief for you, but whenever you claim that risk profiling is wrong and we can't do it, someone always points out the problem with not doing and you never address that part.

You still haven't. We are not talking about arrest warrant situation cop out where you know who you are looking for.

We are talking about potential terrorist in a world where 70%+ muslims from Lebanon support suicide bombin and 0% percent of Swedish Grannies do. It seems completely indefensible to claim that we should randomly choose between these two passengers to target for additional processing.

We simply don't have the time/money resource to target everyone for in depth processing. We must choose. To chose randomly is just plain nuts.

 

[jimmoyer]

Well said, Freethinker, on all your posts concerning
the use of "profiling."

Our court systems can review the proper or
improper use of "profiling".

It won't prevent all abuses of profiling, but nor will
it prevent parents from profiling their own children's
friends, nor will any law outlaw a natural human
tendency to intuitively picture someone
without resorting to invasive surgery of their privacy.

And believe me, FiveParadox, we're trying to
help you from getting wacked on your head from
a vigorously pissed off Swedish granny.

 

[MMMike]

Re: RE: Muslim immigrants will be expelled from Europe

My apologies for "failing to respond." While I enjoy this forum, school is more important.

Nevertheless, I shall respond now; yes, if there is a warrant issued for someone's arrest, then perhaps a higher degree of scrutiny could be understood; however, in this particular situation, where there have been no reports of Muslims committing crimes in Canada in relation to this situation, there should be no reason to increase security domestically.

Come on Five, get your priorities straight! :lol:

By applying to be an immigrant, or by trying to board an airplane, a person opens themselves up for legitimate scrutiny. It is not the same as arbitrary attention. There is nothing wrong with racial or ethnic or any other type of profiling in these cases.

 

[Doryman]

Re: RE: Muslim immigrants will be expelled from Europe

My apologies for "failing to respond." While I enjoy this forum, school is more important.

Nevertheless, I shall respond now; yes, if there is a warrant issued for someone's arrest, then perhaps a higher degree of scrutiny could be understood; however, in this particular situation, where there have been no reports of Muslims committing crimes in Canada in relation to this situation, there should be no reason to increase security domestically.

Come on Five, get your priorities straight! :lol:

By applying to be an immigrant, or by trying to board an airplane, a person opens themselves up for legitimate scrutiny. It is not the same as arbitrary attention. There is nothing wrong with racial or ethnic or any other type of profiling in these cases.

Exactly. Have you ever seen the rigamarole they put military applicants through? I've been interviewed by CSIS on behalf of a friends application to the Navy, and let me tell you,they put me through the wringer about this guy. Verbally, they strapped on the gloves and invaded his historical orifices through me. Some of the questions were surprising. Some shocking. Some insulting. And all were necessary. The reason? The military needed to trust this man in order to let him join, because there was a chance he could endanger Canadians.

It's the same with immigrants. The governent needs to believe that these people are clean as whistles in order to be assured that they won't shoe-bomb Air Canada, or base-ball bat young Jews in Alberta.