Muslim convert attacked while wearing niqab in Toronto

[Jinentonix]

“It’s a choice. No woman I’ve ever met who has the niqab on has been forced to put it on. They’ve all chosen to put it on out of respect for themselves.

So what this woman is saying is she had no respect for herself before she converted and that she needs to wear a tent now because it's how her new religion tells her to respect herself, you know, despite the fact it's not a religious garment.
I wonder to whom else she's outsourced her thinking.


This one is reeking of SJW.

 

[EagleSmack]

Attacked and assaulted.

 

[mentalfloss]

Some things are not subject to personal choice... Get over it and move on

And citizenship ceremonies are not a place where people should be forced to wear what government tells them.

Glad we agree.

 

[captain morgan]

And citizenship ceremonies are not a place where people should be forced to wear what government tells them.

Who the fukk decided that you speak on behalf of all Canadians?

 

[Locutus]

"attacked"

What is the origin of the Fainting Couch?

 

[Ludlow]

well goll dern this is better than the dean martin roasts

 

[mentalfloss]

Who the fukk decided that you speak on behalf of all Canadians?

It's not up to Canadians.

It's up to the courts and the courts have already decided.

Conbots will never get this concept.

 

[Ludlow]

:-I...

 

[Locutus]

thou shalt not question a SJW or a two-bit wrong-headed court decision. :lol:



not to worry kids, it'll all get sorted out one way or another.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Well, it has no basis or is required via Islam the religion, so that leaves personal preference.

... Don't care what/why their individual preference is, in the end, it is their voluntary choice

Neither do crosses, yarmulkes, beards, or turbans.


Shall we ban them all?

 

[mentalfloss]

It's too difficult for many people to understand that the same tradition in different countries can actually have different contexts.

That is, the niqab in Canada does not have to represent the same idea that is associated with it in many other parts of the world.

By forcing them to take it off we are actually reinforcing it's traditional context of oppression.

 

[captain morgan]

Neither do crosses, yarmulkes, beards, or turbans.


Shall we ban them all?

Crosses, yarmulkes and turbans do not entirely (at all) obscure the identity of the one wearing them... That is what this is about.

On a side note, crosses, turbans and yarmulkes are recognized religious symbols; as opposed to niqabs/burkas which are not... The freedom of religion thingy comes to mind (regardless if you agree with it or not)

PS - I believe that Que has banned public servants from sporting any religious symbols while at the worksite

 

[Ludlow]

Back just after 9/11 I remember hearing about some rednecks in Arizona attacking a man who looked Muslim. Trouble was he was a member of the Sikh religion. Combine reactionary tendencies with Stupidity/ignorance and things just keep getting worse.

 

[B00Mer]

Yes, it's important it remains a choice.

Hey, I got no problem with them wearing it in public, I do have an issue with them not showing their face for government ID.

Next time you go to update your drivers license, put a bag over your head and say it's your religious right... They may laugh, or they may thank you for covering the fugly mug of yours. :lol:

Wearing a bag over your head and covering your face sorta takes away from the premise of "photo ID"

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Crosses, yarmulkes and turbans do not entirely (at all) obscure the identity of the one wearing them... That is what this is about.

Which probably has something to do with your statement that niqab is not religious. In your head anyhow.

On a side note, crosses, turbans and yarmulkes are recognized religious symbols; as opposed to niqabs/burkas which are not... The freedom of religion thingy comes to mind (regardless if you agree with it or not)

By whom? Symbols Canada?

PS - I believe that Que has banned public servants from sporting any religious symbols while at the worksite

I knew Quebec would come up with a good idea if we waited long enough.

 

[mentalfloss]

Hey, I got no problem with them wearing it in public, I do have an issue with them not showing their face for government ID.

Next time you go to update your drivers license, put a bag over your head and say it's your religious right... They may laugh, or they may thank you for covering the fugly mug of yours. :lol:

Wearing a bag over your head and covering your face sorta takes away from the premise of "photo ID"

The citizenship ceremony comes after the photo ID part.

Nobody is demanding to keep it on during screening or any other security measures, except maybe cap'n Morgan.

 

[captain morgan]

Which probably has something to do with your statement that niqab is not religious. In your head anyhow.

Funny that this sentiment is shared by most in the Islamic community here in Canada.

... They must be mistaken, eh?

By whom? Symbols Canada?

Yes - Symbols Canada, not to be mistaken with Cymbals Canada

I knew Quebec would come up with a good idea if we waited long enough.

Looks like your goal has been achieved

The citizenship ceremony comes after the photo ID part.

Nobody is demanding to keep it on during screening or any other security measures, except maybe cap'n Morgan.

Did you wear your burka to the swearing in ceremony?

 

[Twila]

On a side note, crosses, turbans and yarmulkes are recognized religious symbols; as opposed to niqabs/burkas which are not... The freedom of religion thingy comes to mind (regardless if you agree with it or not)

PS - I believe that Que has banned public servants from sporting any religious symbols while at the worksite

Recognized religious symbols?

Cause Muslim women in Canada say they choose to wear the niqab out of religious obligation and as an expression of their identity, but are flexible about uncovering their faces in specific circumstances, a recent survey found.

Muslim women in Canada explain why they wear a niqab | Toronto Star

As with many other religious scriptures, the reference to dress is open to interpretation and has been shaped by centuries of cultures in different nations.

"The Koran does not explicitly say you have to cover yourself in this manner," Dr Ismail said.

"Some scholars argue that it is a religious obligation, particularly the more conservative factions within the Muslim world. There are many variations and interpretations."

Dr Ismail is a Muslim and has been wearing her hijab since she was a child.

"I'm so comfortable wearing it that I can't imagine myself without it. I wear it for cultural reasons, but there are many women who wear it for religious reasons."

Explainer: Why do Muslim women wear a burka, niqab or hijab? - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
So I guess some where it out for cultural reasons and some wear burka's niqabs for religious reasons. Depending on the individual.

 

[captain morgan]

Recognized religious symbols?

Cause Muslim women in Canada say they choose to wear the niqab out of religious obligation and as an expression of their identity, but are flexible about uncovering their faces in specific circumstances, a recent survey found.http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...-in-canada-explain-why-they-wear-a-niqab.html

Find me a single Jew that doesn't recognize a yarmukle as a religious symbol, Sikh that doesn't recognize a turban as such or Christian and their crosses.

There is more than just a few statements from Islamic religious leaders and scholars that have repeatedly stated that niqabs and burkas are not a religious requirement as per their faith.

 

[Locutus]

But it HURT yo!

butthurt more like it.

how does this SJW assumption whiner know this dude elbowed her because she is a muslim? they never exchanged words. seems to me she's playing the victim game for whorish attention seeking.

anyway...may um, allah bless her and keep her wherever she hangs out.