Mother Let Boyfriend Rape Her 14 Month-old daughter

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Sal,

Recently (in Canada) there was a Mr Big Sting that received a lot of publicity.. (transcripts of the trial were tagged in many articles)

Before the trial we heard about 2 teens who had been charged been charge with murder.. A murder did occur and the trial backed that up 100 percent, but the trial also explained that when the 2 teens were interrogated one had a lawyer, and the other didnt.

It turned out that in trial, it was said that Law enforcement interrogated the teen without a lawyer for hours and hours in the all night with no food and no sleep..

They finally got a confession out of the unlawyered accused where it was said that Law enforcement told this teen that the other teen was accusing this unlawyered up teen of having it done it..Its caled playing one against the other... telling the person that they are going down unless they can explain what the other accused did.. this is the reason they say a person should always get a defense lawyer especially if they are innocent..
Sal,

Its for the good of all society that I point this out...
 

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that's right gerryh...you are right in the same league as him I knew his stuff sounded familiar...now sweetie I will no longer answer your posts because you are beginning one of your little spins. You have an awesome time playing with yourself there Ger. Night night hon.


love being able to shut a mouth piece down so easily.
 

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I wrote out a long reply and decided it was too rude. So yeah okay, you are completely right, I am totally hooped by the press and all articles I read...I suck it all up as truth...good luck on your next teaching endeavour professor.
Sal,

I point this out to you respectfully... Not to offend you...
 

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Sal,

I point this out to you respectfully... Not to offend you...


Sal is easily offended.... don't agree with her and she's offended

and yes, you have been respectful. That is the excuse she uses for me.... that I am not respectful. Obviously respect is not really her problem.
 

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This is not Amanda Knox... you do not get it...SHE TURNED HER BOYFRIEND IN, which is equivalent to CONFESSING. She sacrificed her baby...This baby was raped to death...if there is no emotion here for you other than to wonder if they did it and what is wrong with our forum members then all I can ask is...are you that freaking out of touch with reality? I was trying to be kind but you are on my last effing nerve now...you are beyond obtuse...look the word up and figure out why I used it...I am done, it's like trying to teach trigonometry to a child that can't add yet.

Give him sh*t Sal..................good girl-:)
 

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okay you are 100% right...they are all innocent, what was I thinking...it's all a media conspiracy...the cops are to blame. The confessions were beaten out of them, in fact there isn't even a dead baby. As for believing what I am reading I can't believe that you would insensitive enough to choose this particular case to try to "teach us" how stupid we all are. Good luck on the next forum professor.
Sal,

I am saying EVERYONE should have the right of being treated as being believed as innocent until proven guilty in a court of law... (not the media)

Its no wonder we see teens cyber bullying against someone through social media...its no different than what many see their parents do.... (because they believe what they read and hear so how do children experience the reality that everything they read and hear doesnt mean it is true....


Apparently they believe the rumours and gossip that they read about someone, and carry their convictinion of guilt and write about it on social media.. the bullied person doesnt stand a chance ....

Give him sh*t Sal..................good girl-:)

JLM,

Did you have any (intellectual) contributions on the subject?

I see you have commented on this subject a few times but so far its only in support of a member (just like a teenager supporting their friend ..just because they are friends.. not because of whats right or wrong...(like gang mentality)
 

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Sal,

I am saying EVERYONE should have the right of being treated as being believed as innocent until proven guilty in a court of law... (not the media)

Its no wonder we see teens cyber bullying against someone through social media...its no different than what many see their parents do.... (because they believe what they read and hear so how do children experience the reality that everything they read and hear doesnt mean it is true....


Apparently they believe the rumours and gossip that they read about someone, and carry their convictinion of guilt and write about it on social media.. the bullied person doesnt stand a chance ....



JLM,

Did you have any (intellectual) contributions on the subject?

I see you have commented on this subject a few times but so far its only in support of a member (just like a teenager supporting their friend ..just because they are friends.. not because of whats right or wrong...(like gang mentality)

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gerryh

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Sorry, Sal but I'm not quite following you. I thought I had stated my abhorence and what should happen to the perpetrators which is all covered in posts #9, 12, 18, 22, 24, 34, 39, 41 etc. etc. What more should I have commented on. The crime is as bad as it gets and the perpetrators are bottom of the barrel. Need I express more?


psssst...dummy..... it wasn't Sal that said it. roflmao
 

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psssst...dummy..... it wasn't Sal that said it. roflmao

You know sumpin Ger? I think you are onto sumpin! I was really beginning to wonder what she was talking about, sure didn't sound like Sal. I'll send her some flowers. -:)
 

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JLM,

Besides the posts where you feel you are GOD, judge and jury where you outline what should happen to a person who is being tried in the media......
 

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You know sumpin Ger? I think you are onto sumpin! I was really beginning to wonder what she was talking about, sure didn't sound like Sal. I'll send her some flowers. -:)


ya.... unlike you, i actually read, follow, and understand a thread.
 

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JLM,

Did you have any (intellectual) contributions on the subject?

I see you have commented on this subject a few times but so far its only in support of a member (just like a teenager supporting their friend ..just because they are friends.. not because of whats right or wrong...(like gang mentality)



I thought I had stated my abhorence and what should happen to the perpetrators which is all covered in posts #9, 12, 18, 22, 24, 34, 39, 41 etc. etc. What more should I have commented on. The crime is as bad as it gets and the perpetrators are bottom of the barrel. Need I express more? I think you've had too many drugs already.

ya.... unlike you, i actually read, follow, and understand a thread.

Actually I did, just got the name of the author wrong. -:)
 

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I thought I had stated my abhorence and what should happen to the perpetrators which is all covered in posts #9, 12, 18, 22, 24, 34, 39, 41 etc. etc. What more should I have commented on. The crime is as bad as it gets and the perpetrators are bottom of the barrel. Need I express more? I think you've had too many drugs already.



Actually I did, just got the name of the author wrong. -:)
Something about being inncent until being proven guilty by a court of law... and not believing allegation you hear and read...Were you a bully in school?
 

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Something about being inncent until being proven guilty by a court of law... and not believing allegation you hear and read...Were you a bully in school?

This is not a court of law, it's a forum, we are just doing an exercise in responding to a case as if it were true as stated. Our opinions here only reflect our thoughts in general terms. People are not being incarcerated or hanged as a result of this forum. All we are doing is judging a case LIKE the one stated. I hope you are sincere about "no more drugs", you've had too many already-:)

I'd rather be skiing- Looks like I'm starting to repeat myself. That's what old age does to you! -:)
 

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My screen name "No more drugs" was created when I advocate against the dangers of psychopharmaceuticals and the concealed dangersside affects etc..

I do not take any drugs,... never did!

Now that I have distraction, back to the subject....

Your explanation of justifying that believing everything written and convicting people on public forums had a huge impact... clearly your not aware of how much weight the jury of public opinion..
 

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My screen name "No more drugs" was created when I advocate against the dangers of psychopharmaceuticals and the concealed dangersside affects etc..

Have those dangers been proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law? If not, please stop trying to sway public opinion with biased unproven allegations.

Your explanation of justifying that believing everything written and convicting people on public forums had a huge impact... clearly your not aware of how much weight the jury of public opinion..

You were saying?
 

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Have those dangers been proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law? If not, please stop trying to sway public opinion with biased unproven allegations.



You were saying?

As far as opinions go on a man raping a baby to death at the request of the mother, how many different opinions do you suppose there are out there?
 

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Have those dangers been proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law? If not, please stop trying to sway public opinion with biased unproven allegations.



You were saying?

Dear Id rather be,

Im glad you asked.. Yes those dangers certainly have been proven in a court of law....beyond a reasonable doubt
The most recent one was in Winnipeg...

I want to point out that the known dangers of these pills are are written and attached to the pill bottles that are sent to the pharmacies.. the problem is that the pharmacies dont supply rthe literature with the filled prescription and the pharmacists arent free in giving the info .... Its more about educating people as the literature is there, but it is concealed...

"A Winnipeg judge’s ruling that a teenage boy murdered his friend because of the effects of Prozac will not be appealed, confirming an apparent North American first and reviving debate around the widespread prescription of anti-depressants to young people.

From the testimony in the ruling....Judge Heinrich said:

"“He had become irritable, restless, agitated, aggressive and unclear in his thinking,” the judge said. “It was while in that state he overreacted in an impulsive, explosive and violent way. Now that his body and mind are free and clear of any effects of Prozac, he is simply not the same youth in behaviour or character.”

‘Prozac defence’ stands in Manitoba teen’s murder case | News | National Post
 

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Sal,

I point this out to you respectfully... Not to offend you...
No more drugs you did not offend me in any way... rather, you were not hearing nor addressing anything I had said you were speaking around it. When that happens there is little point in continuing the discussion.

I have never seen you be disrespectful at any time while posting here.
 

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No more drugs you did not offend me in any way... rather, you were not hearing nor addressing anything I had said you were speaking around it. When that happens there is little point in continuing the discussion.

I have never seen you be disrespectful at any time while posting here.
Sal,

Im glad to hear that you were not offended..

I went back and read your posts and I believe I did answer/address everything you said...I didnt see any skirting or speaking around any querries or points.

I apologize if I did, and would be glad to revisit and rehear, the points/querries that you feel were unheard/unaddressed.