More than politics, this is a national crisis

[LadyC]

sigh.

Couldn't resist a parting insult, could you?

Maybe use the time to come up with some new material. The accusations of drug use are a little tiresome, and after all this time, I'd think you could come up with some new ones regarding the CPC. That old "hidden agenda, right-wing fundamentalist nut-job" line is so last week.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: More than politics, t

Does the truth hurt you that much, C?

 

[bluealberta]

Re: RE: More than politics, t

Does the truth hurt you that much, C?

Perhaps if you ever spouted the truth, we would know.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: More than politics, t

More ranting from the radical right.

 

[bluealberta]

Re: RE: More than politics, t

More ranting from the radical right.

You start telling the truth, I'll quit ranting, as you call it. Of course, you never rant about anything.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: More than politics, t

I do tell the truth. That you are incapable of recognizing it shows how badly you've been twisted by the bizarre cult you belong to.

 

[bluealberta]

Rev, if you think the CBC is right wing, you wouldn't know truth if it was right in front of you. Your "truth" and the real truth are vastly different.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: More than politics, t

Telling more lies, Blue? you aren't very good at it.

 

[Vanni Fucci]

Rev, if you think the CBC is right wing, you wouldn't know truth if it was right in front of you. Your "truth" and the real truth are vastly different.

Please Blue, either post a link to the thread where the good Rev stated that the CBC was right wing, or admit to the entire forum membership that you are an unrepentent, lying, Conservative shill...

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: More than politics, t

He's trying to take something ou of context, Vanni. I do think that CBC is too right-wing because it adheres closely to the corporatist agenda. Unless he's going to deny that (and he can't without lying) he has to accept my point.

He has failed to prove that the CBC is at all left-wing though. He cannot do that without misinterpreting the facts either. His real problem is that, unlike the Calgary Sun, the CBC presents a balanced version of the news.

 

[damngrumpy]

I look at the Federal and provincial scene and I can't help but wonder, who are the bad guys between the Liberals and Conservatives? The most Conservative Prime Minister in dacades, is the leader of the Liberal Party.
Martin is even more conservative that Brian M, his name is still a swear word. Then you look provincially, the Premier of Quebec is a former Tory leader, and in BC, a former Conservative is running as a liberal. The BC Liberals claim they have nothing to do with the Federal LIberals, but they were all smiles when the Federal Liberals gave them nearly two billion dollars a few months ago.
A national crisis> This country exists because it is a national crisis, always has been. After all the country was fathered by a conservative, its kinda what makes us all a bunch of whining bastards.
Scandals? The Sir John A crowd were always involved in scandals, about the railroad, right from the beginning.
Since then we have had sex scandals, financial scandals, favortism scandals, and now another huge financial scandal. Take a look at the politics, Liberals pretending to be Tories, and former senior Tories running in Liberal colors, or becoming leaders of Liberal machines.
Its clear to me they are all in one big club, working to ensure we do not elect an NDP government.
David Lewis had it right years ago, the Liberals and Conservatives are truly tweedle dee and tweedle dum.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: More than politics, t

They are pretty much one and the same, Grumpy. Presently they are separated only by social policy. Without the NDP and the BQ, we would be in exactly the same state as the US...a one party state run by the corporatist party.

 

[bluealberta]

Re: RE: More than politics, t

They are pretty much one and the same, Grumpy. Presently they are separated only by social policy. Without the NDP and the BQ, we would be in exactly the same state as the US...a one party state run by the corporatist party.

In your opinion, and that is fine. My opinion, obviously, is not the same. The financial policies are different as well, in that the conservatives want to have fiscally responsible social policy, to ensure that the taxpayers money is spent in the best interests of all Canadians, not just one province, region, or group of people. I have used the CTC as an example, where I think that some people receive this who should not, so instead of these people receiving this, give more to lower income people who can use it better, but don't necessarily reduce the amount spent on the program. This concept could be used in all social policies to ensure that the Canadian taxpayer, left or right, gets a bigger bang for their hard earned buck. I fail to see how anyone, right or left, could disagree with this concept.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: More than politics, t

You mean the Conservatives would screw over old people, poor people, disabled people, and anybody else that wasn't a corporate greed hog sucking the public tit dry, just like they do in Alberta?

 

[shamus11]

When will they stop Clowning Around?

By

James Bredin

It’s past time that the provinces told Ottawa where to go,
Quebec may eventually do it but we really don’t know,
Ironic those who get equalization ransom the most,
Could force us to accept bilingualism from coast to coast.



Newfoundland got what they wanted by lowering a few flags,
And Ottawa came running quickly with bulging moneybags,
While docile Ontario gets ripped, picked and kicked about,
And Ottawa struts its stuff at adscam without a doubt.

:wink:

If separatists win Referendum Three and they just might,
And they stop sending taxes to Ottawa with great delight,
Will Ottawa double the ransom to buy them off once more?
Forget about referendums, ROC or the esprit de corps.

:roll:

Of course lying McGinty said he wanted some money back,
With Liberals, what do you expect is coming down the track?
Means we are in tax do do deep, right up to our neck,
Ontario pays and doesn’t get an equalization check.

:roll:

Without referendums, recall or set-dates, we’re trapped for years,
Their appointees will decide what is right or wrong; is that clear?
With Shawinigate status quo system forever nailed down?
As we wait and wait and wait for them to stop clowning around.


Sunday, May 08, 2005

http://jimbredin.blogspot.com/2005_04_01_jimbredin_archive.html

 

[bluealberta]

Re: RE: More than politics, t

You mean the Conservatives would screw over old people, poor people, disabled people, and anybody else that wasn't a corporate greed hog sucking the public tit dry, just like they do in Alberta?

No. Get more funds from social programs to the people who really need it. Your assumptions are invalid, untrue, and totally without foundation. Your hatred of Alberta and Albertans has so clouded your vision your comments about Alberta mean absolutely nothing.

 

[bluealberta]

When will they stop Clowning Around?

By

James Bredin

It’s past time that the provinces told Ottawa where to go,
Quebec may eventually do it but we really don’t know,
Ironic those who get equalization ransom the most,
Could force us to accept bilingualism from coast to coast.



Newfoundland got what they wanted by lowering a few flags,
And Ottawa came running quickly with bulging moneybags,
While docile Ontario gets ripped, picked and kicked about,
And Ottawa struts its stuff at adscam without a doubt.

:wink:

If separatists win Referendum Three and they just might,
And they stop sending taxes to Ottawa with great delight,
Will Ottawa double the ransom to buy them off once more?
Forget about referendums, ROC or the esprit de corps.

:roll:

Of course lying McGinty said he wanted some money back,
With Liberals, what do you expect is coming down the track?
Means we are in tax do do deep, right up to our neck,
Ontario pays and doesn’t get an equalization check.

:roll:

Without referendums, recall or set-dates, we’re trapped for years,
Their appointees will decide what is right or wrong; is that clear?
With Shawinigate status quo system forever nailed down?
As we wait and wait and wait for them to stop clowning around.


Sunday, May 08, 2005

http://jimbredin.blogspot.com/2005_04_01_jimbredin_archive.html

Very good points, and substitute Alberta for Ontario for further agreement. Solving the democratic deficit for Paul Martin simply means removing the opposition. Disgraceful.

 

[Reverend Blair]

Hey Blue...How 'bout you solve your own democratic deficit? You have more seats in the House of Commons than you got in the popular vote. The problem is even worse in Alberta where the Conservatives have far more seats than their percentage of the popular vote.

Until I hear you pushing, federally and provincially, for proportional representation I will know that that you don't even understand what the phrase "democratic deficit" even means.

 

[bluealberta]

Hey Blue...How 'bout you solve your own democratic deficit? You have more seats in the House of Commons than you got in the popular vote. The problem is even worse in Alberta where the Conservatives have far more seats than their percentage of the popular vote.

Until I hear you pushing, federally and provincially, for proportional representation I will know that that you don't even understand what the phrase "democratic deficit" even means.

Actually, I am doing some research on that very subject right now and will respond when completed. Let's just say for starters that the Maritimes get a hell of a deal in Parliament vis-a-vis riding population comparisons, and total population comparisons.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: More than politics, t

It's Toronto that gets screwed when you look at those numbers though, Blue. I don't remember the numbers perfectly, but Alberta has something like 28% of the seats and 27.5% of the population...or maybe that's the west combined.

The real democratic deficit is that the Liberals and Conservatives consistently get a higher percentage of seats than they do of the popular vote. That's the first past the post system. It needs to change. Tell your buddy Stevie to smarten up and do something about it.