More "friendly fire"

Hotshot

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Re: RE: More "friendly fire"

Zzarchov said:
Honestly? How many of you ACTUALLY know anything about war?

The amount of casualties in Afghanistan is nothing, its a bloody miracle. The limited number of friendly fire casualties another one.

Standard casualty numbers should be 3 attackers to one defender with about 20% friendly fire casualties. (or was in the last 2 world wars)

We have about 1 attacker to every 60-100 defenders killed, with what, 5% friendly fire?

People, stop expecting 0 casualty wars, thats not how they work.

But you must remember that now the weaponery is much more sophisticated than they were in WW2. No comparison can be made between WW2 and present day action. There is no longer any excuse for mistakes such as what the yankees are famous for.
 

#juan

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Re: RE: More "friendly fire"

Zzarchov said:
Honestly? How many of you ACTUALLY know anything about war?

The amount of casualties in Afghanistan is nothing, its a bloody miracle. The limited number of friendly fire casualties another one.

Standard casualty numbers should be 3 attackers to one defender with about 20% friendly fire casualties. (or was in the last 2 world wars)

We have about 1 attacker to every 60-100 defenders killed, with what, 5% friendly fire?

People, stop expecting 0 casualty wars, thats not how they work.

Maybe you should do a bit more reading.

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Kevin Welsh

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Only if they are Canadian born living for some unknown stupidity south of the border....

Dumbass.

In 2001, 9,950 canadians sought US citizenship out of a total Canadian population of 30,000,000 = 9,950/30,000,000 = 0.00033 = 3.3 per 10,000.

The same year, only 2,443 Americans sought Canadian citizenship out of a total American population of 300,000,000 = 2,443/300,000,000 = 0.0000081 = 0.081 per 10,000.

So regarding citizenship, the per capita rate is 3.3 Canadians seek US citizenship per 10,000 Canadians. This rate is 41X higher than the per capita rate of 0.081 Americans seeking Canadian citizenship per 10,000 Americans.

Another way of putting it is, any randomly chosen Canadian citizen is 41X more likely to seek US citizenship than any randomly chosen American citizen is to seek Canadian citizenship.

Both in absolute numbers and on a per capita basis, Canadians vote with their feet and come the USA.

They come for careers, better opportunity, and the freedom to pursue them. They want the American Dream.

Are you jealous?

http://www.migrationinformation.org/GlobalData/
 

Curiosity

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Kevin Welsh said:
Hotshot wrote:
Only if they are Canadian born living for some unknown stupidity south of the border....

Dumbass.

In 2001, 9,950 canadians sought US citizenship out of a total Canadian population of 30,000,000 = 9,950/30,000,000 = 0.00033 = 3.3 per 10,000.

The same year, only 2,443 Americans sought Canadian citizenship out of a total American population of 300,000,000 = 2,443/300,000,000 = 0.0000081 = 0.081 per 10,000.

So regarding citizenship, the per capita rate is 3.3 Canadians seek US citizenship per 10,000 Canadians. This rate is 41X higher than the per capita rate of 0.081 Americans seeking Canadian citizenship per 10,000 Americans.

Another way of putting it is, any randomly chosen Canadian citizen is 41X more likely to seek US citizenship than any randomly chosen American citizen is to seek Canadian citizenship.

Both in absolute numbers and on a per capita basis, Canadians vote with their feet and come the USA.

They come for careers, better opportunity, and the freedom to pursue them. They want the American Dream.

Are you jealous?

http://www.migrationinformation.org/GlobalData/

KevinWelsh

Well done!

It's good to see the issue debated with valid information and links rather than bully tactics.
 

Toro

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Its not only that.

There are several times more Canadians living in the US than living in America on all sorts of immigration visas - me included.

By pure population alone - if the two societies were equally desireable - there should be 10x more Americans living in Canada since there is 10x more population.
 

#juan

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Just to get back on the topic

US troops get training to avoid friendly-fire attacks on British
By Laura Peek and Michael Evans, Defence Editor


AMERICAN soldiers in Iraq are being given “anti-fratricide” training to reduce the number of friendly fire attacks against British and other coalition troops, The Times has learnt.

Thirty-two “blue-on-blue” attacks on British and other coalition vehicles have been logged in the past twelve months in southern Iraq, Britain’s area of responsibility.

The training was revealed as Washington and Rome announced a joint inquiry into the killing last week of an Italian secret agent when

Canada should apply for the same consideration.



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Zzarchov

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Re: RE: More "friendly fire"

#juan said:
Zzarchov said:
Honestly? How many of you ACTUALLY know anything about war?

The amount of casualties in Afghanistan is nothing, its a bloody miracle. The limited number of friendly fire casualties another one.

Standard casualty numbers should be 3 attackers to one defender with about 20% friendly fire casualties. (or was in the last 2 world wars)

We have about 1 attacker to every 60-100 defenders killed, with what, 5% friendly fire?

People, stop expecting 0 casualty wars, thats not how they work.

Maybe you should do a bit more reading.

link


They include Fatal and Non-Fatal for modern wars but not for WWII, a modern "friendly injury" includes car accidents between soldiers. In WWII they only counted bullets to the head.
 

Hotshot

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Kevin Welsh said:
Hotshot wrote:
Only if they are Canadian born living for some unknown stupidity south of the border....

Dumbass.


They come for careers, better opportunity, and the freedom to pursue them. They want the American Dream.

Are you jealous?

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First, yankees are noted for name calling when they have nothing better to say. So be it.

Secondly, if the 'american dream' is being a target of terrorists, then, no I am not jealous.

Thirdly, I am not jealous of having a leader who illegally invades another country for NO REASON. I am not jealous of hords of yankees blindly following their warmonger prez. And I am not jealous of the dispicable attitude of yanks who think they are better than everyone else.

So blow it out your butt, butthead.
 

Zzarchov

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Hotshot.. he hasn't said anything untrue, quite frankly if every canadian were as ill tempered and sore as you I wouldn't want to be one.

But people are just people and a magic line in the dirt doesn't change things. America and Canada are by and large identical culturaly and economically. Why do more Canadians go south? Higher Wages. But also note its not going "to america", its to "certain points in america". Few Canadians for example go to Mobile Alabama, more people from Mobile Alabama go to Canada. But more of Both go to Los Angeles.

as for "blindly following the president" lets see, that works out to him getting about 25-28% of the population voting for him. Yes, how the "Masses" follow.
 

#juan

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Why don't you start another topic

about the comparative immigration habits of Canadians and Americans? This topic was about "friendly fire".