Modern Polygamy

[Locutus]

via Fark:

"Mormon Fundamentalist" polygamists seek to shed stereotypes and show they're just like any other typical family with dozens of kids, some older than their father's wives, who live in compounds under the autocratic control of a "prophet"

Modern Polygamy: Arizona Mormon Fundamentalists Seek to Shed Stereotypes: 'It's a Religion, Not a Crime' - ABC News

 

[L Gilbert]

Oh, hey. It's a religion so that makes it right. I'm sure Applewhite, Jones, Hubbard, Muhammed, et al would say that.

 

[Zipperfish]

Well, the door on traidaitonal marrgiage was booted down with gay marriage. Polygamy operates on the same principle--people loving each other, consenting adults, yadda yadda yadda. Knock yourself out, i say. Just keep your hands off the kids.

 

[L Gilbert]

Maybe. Marriage has evolved with whatever society says is okeydokey. Used to be that it was ok for men to play with boys while being married to girls. Different cultures, different times are the sources for all kinds of weird activities.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Polygamy pretty much IS "traditional marriage." It's pedigree is a lot older than monogamy.

 

[Mowich]

Well, the door on traidaitonal marrgiage was booted down with gay marriage. Polygamy operates on the same principle--people loving each other, consenting adults, yadda yadda yadda. Knock yourself out, i say. Just keep your hands off the kids.

Door? What door? I never had to go through a special door when I got married. I also didn't realize that traditional marriage existed behind one. As for 'booting' down this fictional door, I am glad Canada saw the need to officially recognize gay marriages. They have every right to chose the partner they wish to spend their lives with, to have that union blessed and acknowledged.

 

[WLDB]

Well, the door on traidaitonal marrgiage was booted down with gay marriage. Polygamy operates on the same principle--people loving each other, consenting adults, yadda yadda yadda. Knock yourself out, i say. Just keep your hands off the kids.

Traditional marriage is selling your daughter to a nearby village to make an alliance. Thats how it started.

Polygamy has been practiced legally in most societies throughout history. It predates same sex marriage by quite a long time.

I agree with the last line though. So long as they dont force kids into these marriages knock yourself out. Unfortunately some Mormon groups still do that which is why law enforcement goes after some of their compounds.

 

[Zipperfish]

Door? What door? I never had to go through a special door when I got married. I also didn't realize that traditional marriage existed behind one. As for 'booting' down this fictional door, I am glad Canada saw the need to officially recognize gay marriages. They have every right to chose the partner they wish to spend their lives with, to have that union blessed and acknowledged.

I'm not saying they don't. I'm saying that there's really no reason to have any arrangement of adults and not call it a marriage. Polygamy, bisexual, whatevs.

You did have to go through a special door when you got married--you had to get approval from the state. Personally, I don't think the gummint should even keep records of marriage.

 

[gopher]

I've said before and will say again, I believe in polygyny. After all, it's in the Bible, was practiced by Christians until the 4th century when they were stopped by Roman law, was practiced by Sefardic Jews until the 15th century, and is still tolerated by Yemeni Jews and Muslims. Nothing wrong with that at all.

 

[WLDB]

You did have to go through a special door when you got married--you had to get approval from the state. Personally, I don't think the gummint should even keep records of marriage.

Agreed

 

[hunboldt]

I'm in favor of a Heinlen style line marriage. It allows a man to literally get between his sweetie AND his mother in law.....

 

[Christianna]

Sorry but I am against polygamy, there's the incest problem, why do you think the Mormons are so keen to do the genealogy work? Once the women in my family went to Salt Lake City to do some family history in their huge genealogical library, we were told by a Mormon woman that they have many handicapped people, and maybe plural marriage wasn't such a great idea. Then I have read that Bountiful BC has an over abundance of tiny graves in the cemetery there. Consider why.

 

[WLDB]

Sorry but I am against polygamy, there's the incest problem, why do you think the Mormons are so keen to do the genealogy work?

I wasnt aware that they did. You can prevent close relatives from getting married but there is no way to stop them from having sex or living with multiple partners. Incest is also not limited to just Mormons. Though rare, it happens pretty much everywhere.

I've said before and will say again, I believe in polygyny. After all, it's in the Bible, was practiced by Christians until the 4th century when they were stopped by Roman law, was practiced by Sefardic Jews until the 15th century, and is still tolerated by Yemeni Jews and Muslims. Nothing wrong with that at all.

Probably better suited to our nature anyway. We arent naturally monogamous.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Sorry but I am against polygamy, there's the incest problem, why do you think the Mormons are so keen to do the genealogy work? Once the women in my family went to Salt Lake City to do some family history in their huge genealogical library, we were told by a Mormon woman that they have many handicapped people, and maybe plural marriage wasn't such a great idea. Then I have read that Bountiful BC has an over abundance of tiny graves in the cemetery there. Consider why.

Polygamy and incest have nothing to do with each other.

 

[SLM]

I've said before and will say again, I believe in polygyny. After all, it's in the Bible, was practiced by Christians until the 4th century when they were stopped by Roman law, was practiced by Sefardic Jews until the 15th century, and is still tolerated by Yemeni Jews and Muslims. Nothing wrong with that at all.

Cool. So you'd have no issue being husband number 9 out of 10 then? That would not cause any consternation at all? Answer honestly.

Probably better suited to our nature anyway. We arent naturally monogamous.

What's also in our natures is envy, jealousy. We don't really share that easily.

Personally I don't care if people choose to live in polyamorous relationships, each to their own. But the key word is 'choose'. So while there are definitely people out in the world that choose this lifestyle, let's not ignore that in a good deal of the circumstances polygamy is really about one dominant/controlling gender (typically male) with one submissive/subservient gender (typically female). It's for this reason that I view most groups that call for legalization of polygamy with a good deal of skepticism.

I would also be willing to bet real money that the vast majority of males who say they think polygamy is the "natural" way of doing things is really only viewing it as typical one husband/multiple wives scenario. I would invite them to envision it the other way around and see if that scenario also seems 'natural' to them.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Cool. So you'd have no issue being husband number 9 out of 10 then? That would not cause any consternation at all? Answer honestly.



What's also in our natures is envy, jealousy. We don't really share that easily.

Personally I don't care if people choose to live in polyamorous relationships, each to their own. But the key word is 'choose'. So while there are definitely people out in the world that choose this lifestyle, let's not ignore that in a good deal of the circumstances polygamy is really about one dominant/controlling gender (typically male) with one submissive/subservient gender (typically female). It's for this reason that I view most groups that call for legalization of polygamy with a good deal of skepticism.

I would also be willing to bet real money that the vast majority of males who say they think polygamy is the "natural" way of doing things is really only viewing it as typical one husband/multiple wives scenario. I would invite them to envision it the other way around and see if that scenario also seems 'natural' to them.

Sure does. If anything, polyandry makes more sense than polygyny. Though I know several people, many of whom are women, who approve of polygyny.

 

[Cliffy]

Cool. So you'd have no issue being husband number 9 out of 10 then? That would not cause any consternation at all? Answer honestly.



What's also in our natures is envy, jealousy. We don't really share that easily.

Personally I don't care if people choose to live in polyamorous relationships, each to their own. But the key word is 'choose'. So while there are definitely people out in the world that choose this lifestyle, let's not ignore that in a good deal of the circumstances polygamy is really about one dominant/controlling gender (typically male) with one submissive/subservient gender (typically female). It's for this reason that I view most groups that call for legalization of polygamy with a good deal of skepticism.

I would also be willing to bet real money that the vast majority of males who say they think polygamy is the "natural" way of doing things is really only viewing it as typical one husband/multiple wives scenario. I would invite them to envision it the other way around and see if that scenario also seems 'natural' to them.

Polyandry is still practiced in some parts of Tibet. It makes sense where there is little arable land to keep populations down.

Brothers share one wife - Fraternal Polyandry - YouTube

 

[WLDB]

I would also be willing to bet real money that the vast majority of males who say they think polygamy is the "natural" way of doing things is really only viewing it as typical one husband/multiple wives scenario. I would invite them to envision it the other way around and see if that scenario also seems 'natural' to them.

I wouldnt be in that group. I think people should be able to chose and live however they want in any relationship that they want provided they are all consenting adults. I dont care if its a man with multiple partners, or a woman with multiple partners - or both.

Whether there is an actual marriage or not people will do both. Just like homosexual relationships have always happened. You dont need a marriage to have a relationship. Personally I have no desire to ever marry anyone. Im fine with having a long term relationship with someone. I just have no interest in the institution.

 

[Zipperfish]

Probably better suited to our nature anyway. We arent naturally monogamous.

However, monagamous cultures currently dominate the planet. So it appears in the current context to have an advantage.

 

[WLDB]

However, monagamous cultures currently dominate the planet. So it appears in the current context to have an advantage.

Given how high the divorce rates are and how casual sexual relationships are becoming its hold may be weakening.