Militarisation of Canada

[darkbeaver]

Please, dark beaver, don't apologize! It is me who has a long wire and doesn't catch on right away.
Generally, yes, a war generates and stimulates the economy, because so much has to be fixed again afterwards. Plus, as you mentioned earlier, the THEFT that goes on in a war is worthwhile. So, do you think Canada gets some of that opium from Afghanistan???;-)

No Canadian would smoke opium in Afghanistan while they're on duty. You can get the seeds at Canadian tire. War is good for the economy and that's why we fight and kill and die.:-(

 

[iARTthere4iam]

If I have to explain to you why war makes money, it means you have not read any history. The most efficient means to profit is theft. Military adventure is the most efficient means to effect theft.
You could start with the Vikings, if you're really interested. And forget about thinking from the common mans perspective which count for nothing in this world most of the time.:canada:

And would I have to explain to you that a capitalist can make many times more money. For example I could steal your wallet. Or if I really was interested in money I would sell you a McDonalds hamburger. And if you were sufficiently happy with the burger you would return and empty your wallet happily every week for years and I would get very rich. Robbery is limited it generates little wealth, capitalism generates great amounts of riches.

 

[YoungJoonKim]

capitalism generates great amounts of riches.

True, true, so true.
Its just that it is not very sustainable nor is it economically friendly [not that communism and mercantilism mean any better, both are equally evil]. At best, maybe err...two centuries?
Our food production has reached its peak..and..er..demand for refined oil finally went over the roof and is at trouble. Poverty is spreading like epidemic in Africa...it hasn't GOT any better. More refugee, more natural disaster, more uncertainty of oil production & price.
Yes, capitalism works until it hits the wall.
Not that I have "any" better plan l o l
I wanna live luxuriously you see! And be happy, just like a fine-little capitalist~
We all have a bit of capitalist in us...so don't worry, it works really good.

 

[iARTthere4iam]

True, true, so true.
Its just that it is not very sustainable nor is it economically friendly [not that communism and mercantilism mean any better, both are equally evil]. At best, maybe err...two centuries?
Our food production has reached its peak..and..er..demand for refined oil finally went over the roof and is at trouble. Poverty is spreading like epidemic in Africa...it hasn't GOT any better. More refugee, more natural disaster, more uncertainty of oil production & price.
Yes, capitalism works until it hits the wall.
Not that I have "any" better plan l o l
I wanna live luxuriously you see! And be happy, just like a fine-little capitalist~
We all have a bit of capitalist in us...so don't worry, it works really good.

So, Africa is suffering from an overabundance of Capitalism? I would have to disagree.

The US, Canada, Britain, Japan, Australia are a bit better examples of Capitalist societies than the continent of Africa (Zimbabwe, anyone?).

Our food production has not reached anywhere near maximum. Have you ever heard of a green house? It is a marvelous food making system. Ditto drip irrigation, ditto potatoes. Don't get fooled again.

 

[jimshort19]

YoungJoonKim

Greetings to the young capitalist joon from capitalist everywhere! Kim on!

YJK, "Its just that it is not very sustainable nor is it economically friendly [not that communism and mercantilism mean any better, both are equally evil]. At best, maybe err...two centuries?"

Try forever.

YJK, "Our food production has reached its peak.."

No.

YJK, "and... oil... trouble. Poverty is spreading...More refugee, more natural disaster, more uncertainty of oil production & price.
Yes, capitalism works until it hits the wall."

Capitalism is the only system that ever was and always will be. Barter was capitalism. Communism is centralized capitalism. Mecantilism was capitalism. So, what are you on about? Wealth is spreading. Democracy is spreading. Peace is spreading. Civilization is advancing. Capitalism cannot be spread, it can only be controlled and adulterated.

You just love oil too much. Get rid of that Cadillac and buy a clean little car that uses half the fuel. Mix a few success stories with your bad news diet. See the big pattern and direction of the human race. Tyrants oppose progress, because progress is against them. This battle will wage on for perhaps a thousand years, before 100 million years of peace, for we are young and only in the pains of birth.

 

[Machjo]

I don't want to make anyone think to much hear (it could cause migraines for some), but has anyone ever considered getting the UN to officially proclaim that area to be Canadian soil, assuming that that has not been done already? Once that's done, there is no need to 'defend' it. All neighbouring countries would acknowledge it already.
Unless of course we don't trust our neighbours. Now if that's the case, having a few warships will do nothing; then my advice would be that Canada either give up that land or begin war preparations NOW.

I don't like the idea of sitting around wasting billions of dollars for decades on an unreseolved issue. Let's get it over with now. Either we negotiate an agreement soon and then we won't need a big military anymore, or if they refuse to agree, we then decide to give up some land or fight it out. The war might be bloody expensive, but at least it will determine the fate of that land quickly and then we could stop spending so much on the military afterwards and get on with our business.

My attitude is, if we don't need a military, don't militarize. And if we need to militarize, then it's because it's serious. But let's not use the military for make work jobs.

 

[Trex]

No need to worry about Canada retaliating with nuclear warheads - we don't have any! Which is ironic, seeing as how we are the world's leading supplier of uranium. We supply our uranium through the IAEA which ensures that none of our uranium is used for warheads. We are one of the few countries that respects the non proliferation agreement.

As for the whole military-industrial complex... don't we buy all our weapons second hand? When was the last time Canadians were innovating in the arms field? The sea-king perhaps?

Top arms exporting nations in the world:

Country
Total Arms Exports1
USA
$14,008m
Russia
$5,800m
UK
$3,300m
Germany
$1,000m
China
$700m
Canada
$600m
France
$400m
Netherlands
$300m
Israel
$200m
Spain
$200m
Sweden
$200m


Canada is a major player in the global miltary/industrial game.
We do, however, support slightly more ethical "cough, cough"
weapons of destruction.
If land mines cannot be banned completely Canada would favour manufacturing a
self- destruct style of mine.
Other nifty ideas would include replacing the depleted uranium penetrator rounds
and generally supporting a move towards more targeted ( less civilian losses) munitions.
Better than nothing I suppose and certainly a vast improvement over the tried and true
car full of ANFO in the marketplace that other organizations seem to favour.