#metoo

[spaminator]

MANDEL: Doc reprimanded for 'sexist and judgmental comments'
Michele Mandel
Published:
April 5, 2019
Updated:
April 5, 2019 10:28 PM EDT
Dr. Jack Stanborough (Toronto Sun files)
Dr. Jack Stanborough has been ordered to work on his bedside manner.
The former regional coroner for Hamilton had his knuckles rapped by the Health Professions Appeal and Review Board (HPARB) for his “paternalistic” and judgmental way in dealing with two female patients who came to him for sexually transmitted disease (STD) testing.
The review board upheld the ruling by a committee of the College of Physicians and Surgeons that the family doctor must be cautioned in person about his patient communications “in particular, inappropriate, sexist and judgmental comments to young women who are trying to take responsibility for their sexual health” and undergo a remediation program which includes a course on “understanding boundaries.”
According to the decisions, B.B. (patients’ names are covered by a publication ban) had come to a clinic to receive results of her STD tests. She complained Stanborough asked if she’d been a “naughty girl” and then told her the results were negative and “your wild nights of chasing boys didn’t catch up to you.”
Not surprisingly, B.B. called him on it right away, calling his judgmental attitude “inappropriate.” She said he then touched her arm in a gesture of apology which “she experienced as invasive and violating.”
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B.B. vacillated about filing a complaint but went ahead, she said, to “protect other patients who could possibly be subjected to unwarranted humiliation and hypersexualization, which is never justifiable regardless of their private, consensual sexual behaviour. A doctor’s office should be a bastion against stigmatization.”
Stanborough called her allegations “complete fabrications.” While he tried to lighten the mood to put her at ease, he denied saying anything about being a naughty girl chasing boys or anything else to suggest she was promiscuous.
The college, though, had received several other complaints about this doctor, including an inappropriate comment about a patient’s underwear. Stanborough is “building a history of communication-based complaints, especially with women. Although (he) has denied B.B’s allegations, if true, his comments reveal a sexist and judgmental attitude towards a young woman who was being responsible about her sexual health.”
Stanborough, who said he no longer sees patients in a clinical practice, complained the punishment was excessive and amounted to “gender discrimination.” He also claimed the college was biased against him because he’d been outspoken against the provincial government after he was terminated as regional coroner in 2016.
Stanborough told the CBC at the time that he was “paid to go away” for criticizing government agencies during death inquests.
The review board saw both claims as red herrings.
They reached the same conclusion after the doctor appealed a similar college committee decision against him.
A.A. complained that when she went in to request STD testing after having symptoms with a new sexual partner, Stanborough was “condescending and rude:” He told her she was wasting resources by getting tested too often and his advice was that she should insist on condoms and “only sleep with good fellas.”
She also complained to the college: “Overall, I am horrified by my experience with this doctor as I see nothing wrong with being a young individual getting STI testing after having sex with a new partner, especially since I had noticed a symptom that gave me cause for concern.”
The college committee investigating her complaint found Stanborough’s attitude was demeaning and paternalistic and, together with the previous complaint, a “troubling pattern” in his interactions with female patients.
Once again, the doctor of 30 years claimed gender discrimination and a witch hunt against him. The review board found otherwise — so remedial training and a caution has been prescribed for the offending doc.
Stanborough hadn’t yet heard of the decision when reached by the Toronto Sun. “That’s disappointing,” he said while declining further comment.
But when asked about his contention at the hearing that he was the subject of a vendetta, he said, “that’s the least of it.”
mmandel@postmedia.com
http://torontosun.com/news/local-news/mandel-doc-reprimanded-for-sexist-and-judgemental-comments

 

[Curious Cdn]

With a name like Scarborough, you know that he's waaaay out there.

 

[spilledthebeer]

With a name like Scarborough, you know that he's waaaay out there.

Here is a FUNNY article that will be swiftly buried by LIE-beral friendly and quite hypocritical news media. With some comments of my own in brackets):

California #MeToo leader accused of groping man

Associated Press. Published: February 8, 2018. Updated: February 8, 2018 10:18 PM EST

Filed Under:

Toronto SUN/ News/ World

By Kathleen Ronayne, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

SACRAMENTO, Calif. — California Democratic Assemblywoman Cristina Garcia, the head of the Legislative Women’s Caucus and a leading figure in the state’s anti-sexual harassment movement, is accused of groping a male staffer from another lawmaker’s office.

(So- as a lot of men have suspected all along- most of the MeToo leaders are grand standers and publicity Hogs more interested in finding a soap box to attract publicity rather than real seekers after honest justice! These hypocrites think it is justice to ruin a man with innuendo. Actual evidence that can be brought into a law court and judged honestly is NOT NEEDED! Such hypocrites!)

Daniel Fierro told The Associated Press on Thursday that Garcia stroked his back, squeezed his buttocks and attempted to touch his crotch in a dugout after a legislative softball game in 2014.

Fierro didn’t report it at the time but in January told his former boss, Democratic Assemblyman Ian Calderon, who reported it to Assembly leaders. The Assembly is now investigating Garcia.

Politico first reported Fierro’s accusation.

Garcia’s spokeswoman Teala Schaff said the assemblywoman learned Jan. 23 a complaint was filed but was given no details and only learned the specifics of the allegations from Politico.

“Every complaint about sexual harassment should be taken seriously and I will participate fully in any investigation that takes place,” the Los Angeles-area lawmaker said in a statement Thursday. “I have zero recollection of engaging in inappropriate behaviour and such behaviour is inconsistent with my values.”

The investigation into Garcia is one of many in statehouses nationwide following a wave of sexual misconduct allegations against men in power since an October expose of movie mogul Harvey Weinstein by the New York Times.

Fierro said he decided to tell Calderon about the incident because of Garcia’s outspokenness in the #MeToo movement, which references the social media campaign used by millions to tell personal experiences with sexual harassment.

“If the person leading the charge on it isn’t credible it just ends up hurting the credibility of these very real stories,” Fierro told the AP.

Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon, a Democrat, said in a statement he is directing human resources to reach out to Garcia’s staff to make sure they feel safe.

“I trust that while the investigation proceeds, Assemblymember Garcia will respond appropriately and in a way that fortifies the Legislature’s effort to create a new climate,” he said.

Fierro, who was 25 at the time, said he was interviewed by an outside law firm hired by the Assembly Rules Committee last Friday. Politico also reported that a lobbyist who declined to be named claimed Garcia made crude sexual comments and tried to grab his crotch at a 2017 fundraiser.

(OH! Now we have multiple accusers! And in the latest news we have new allegations of sexual impropriety from 4 other staffers who quit for various reasons. SHE is apparently a criminal! AND HYPOCRITE!)

Garcia was elected in 2012 and has carved out a name as a champion of women’s issues and environmental health for poor communities and chairs the Women’s Caucus.

(Author Christina Hoff-Somers details the hypocrisy of these “champions of women`s issues” in her book “Who Stole Feminism”. Hoff-Sumers details numerous instances of falsified statistics and radically altered interpretations of law and the rules of evidence by feminists in order to create the appearance of a crisis! U of T professor Jordan Peterson is under personal attack for pointing out that the values being taught in various colleges and universities are entirely at odds with main stream public opinion! And a teaching assistant at Laurier University was nearly fired for daring to present a fair and open clip of a debate played on TVO/The Agenda- the rather popular talk show that does a fine job of discussing events in an open and honest fashion! To condemn The Agenda as morally wrong for merely discussing a contentious issue is to condemn western civilization and democracy! Refusing even to allow honest discussion is the hallmark of Fascists- exactly the kind of people now infesting our schools!)

Democratic Sen. Connie Leyva, co-chair of the women’s caucus, said she was “shocked and disturbed” at the allegations and she will ask the group to meet soon to discuss Garcia’s fate as leader.

Garcia’s photo was featured in Time Magazine’s Person of the Year issue on being one of the “Silence Breakers” on sexual harassment.

“I refuse to work with (Assemblyman Raul Bocanegra) and anyone who takes part in harassment or assault,” she tweeted in October after it was reported Bocanegra had been disciplined in 2009 for groping a colleague. Bocanegra later resigned after more women made public accusations.

Garcia was a fierce advocate for legislation signed by Gov. Jerry Brown on Monday giving legislative staff members whistleblower protections for reporting sexual misconduct or other misbehaviour, speaking at a rally on the Capitol steps after its passage. She’s tweeted repeatedly about the importance of sexual consent in recent days.

Fierro and the lobbyist said it appeared Garcia was inebriated at the time of the encounters.

(It occurs to me to ask: ”just how damned ENTITLED do all these horn dog politicians think they are anyway” Apparently these Hogs see nothing wrong with wining and dining on the govt gravy train and then grabbing at any erogenous zone that catches their eye! How PIGGISH are they? And why should we put up with them at all? Replace them all- there are LOTS of other new candidates waiting in the wings! Vote early and vote often-SCREW ALL THE HOGS!)

In a November interview with AP about alcohol-fueled fundraisers and other after-work events that are a part of regular business in Sacramento, Garcia said blaming alcohol isn’t an acceptable excuse for sexually inappropriate behaviour. It’s men who chose to misbehave, not the social events themselves, that create the problems, she said.

(And what about the women who also misbehave? Oh we don’t want to discuss them- it might make women look bad! Women trading on their looks is as old as time!)

“I would say that most of the public realizes that our job is based on relationships, and so we are expected to go out there and socialize,” she said. “I think our public also expects us to hold ourselves to a higher standard.”


(What the public KNOWS is that MeToo is about money and power and who gets to control it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)


The Assembly committee said last week that eight allegations of sexual harassment are pending in the Assembly but did not divulge any names. Debra Gravert, the chief administrative officer, didn’t respond to an email from AP seeking clarifation whether Fierro’s allegation is one of the eight pending. Fierro said he was contacted by Rules several days after telling Calderon about the incident for an initial interview before speaking with outside lawyers for more than an hour last week.

Fierro, of Cerritos, left the Assembly in 2016 and now runs a communications firm. Calderon, his former boss, is now the majority leader. Lerna Shirinian, Calderon’s communications director, said Fierro told her about the incident right after it happened.

“He was in shock, I was in shock — but the culture was very different back then,” Shirinian told Politico.

 

[Mowich]

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Your point being that because this one be crazy, no woman has ever been raped?

OK, thanks, Judge Camp.

 

[Curious Cdn]

There's a PhD thesis in that and a tenured professorship, to boot.


What happens when dominant lesbians fart?

 

[Tense81]

Aint it GRAND to be a judge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


No need to actually pay attention or think hard.........................


or do much of anything ................................


other than NOT SNORE or fall off your chair when testimony is being given!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And WHY is there such a time lag between when a guilty verdict is given........................
and eventually the sentence is finally handed out?????????????????????????
Should we assume the judge is reading all the bits of testimony he SLEPT THROUGH???????????????????
The legal system needs to be cleaned up - and that means getting rid of senile old fools and LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well said and you wanted tell if self about your issues in ordinary living houses?

Are you family boss? Are you gay?

 

[spilledthebeer]

Well said and you wanted tell if self about your issues in ordinary living houses?

Are you family boss? Are you gay?

I offer you some advice Tense81:


First..................learn English!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Second.........................SOBER UP................................................


being SOBER will help you learn English!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Third.........................organize your thoughts and values.............................


logical thought is easier if you are NOT drugged!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Fourth- have a look at the NONSENSE you posted above and see if you can come up with a COHERENT explanation ....................


IN ENGLISH......................................


of the crap you posted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



If you are a radical Muslim and/or a mentally challenged person then DISREGARD the above advice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Because you are DOOMED to a life of confusion and chaos regardless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Mowich]

Your point being that because this one be crazy, no woman has ever been raped?

OK, thanks, Judge Camp.

My point being that all such 'crazy women' should be called out as they only harm the cause they wish to champion, Tec.

 

[spilledthebeer]

Your point being that because this one be crazy, no woman has ever been raped?

OK, thanks, Judge Camp.

The problem.......................which Tecumsehbonesforbrains is ignoring........................................


is that these crazy women are multiplying like mushrooms after a rain storm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And as we know.........................................


the crazy women and LIE-berals have taken over the arts and social studies programs at schools, colleges and universities!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Which is of course WHY the number of crazy women is increasing so rapidly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We should urge the public to be MORE RESPONSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


SPAY OR NEUTER your LIE-beral TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!







Here is an illustration of the level of madness that has overtaken our educational system as a result of LIE-beral political correctness and social justice insanity! With some comments of my own in brackets):

White social studies teacher ousted over slavery lesson plans to sue over reverse racism

A white Bronx social studies teacher facing termination for a controversial lesson on slavery says she is the victim of reverse-racism — and has filed a lawsuit, which her lawyer says could be worth $1 billion.

The notorious teacher’s attorney even says white teachers who work in the Bronx deserve combat pay.

The Daily News exclusively reported in February that Middle School 118 teacher Patricia Cummings singled out black students and told them to lie on the floor for a lesson on U.S. slavery — and then stepped on their backs to show them what it felt like, according to several students and one staffer.

(Hmm, it sounds Bad! IF. It is true!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The story sparked protests and reactions from an array of elected officials – but Cummings says in a Notice of Claim filed in anticipation of a lawsuit against “the city, parents, students and the media” that the account of the lesson is all wrong. She says she was the victim of reverse discrimination, defamation, negligence and other claims worth the eye-popping sum.

(Well yes- many people have become aware of the chance to punish others whom they don’t like - by making FALSE CLAIMS!! The name Jussie Smollet comes to mind as somebody whiling to lie for money! Or we could talk about the 9 year old Toronto Muslim girl who was coached by adults to claim a white man attacked her and tried to cut off her head scarf - with the alleged apparently motivated by desire to build sympathy for the Muslim community! And in these troubled times a lot of politicians would rather fire first and examine evidence MAYBE LATER!!!!!!!!!!)

Her Notice of Claim — which says she’s owed $120 million in damages — even states that the lawsuit could become a class action reverse racism suit worth upwards of $1 billion.

(If she has been falsely accused of being a Racist and been then fired for it- she is SURELY OWED cash for having her career destroyed by hateful slander!!!!!!!!!!)

“It’s a scandal,” Cummings’ attorney Tom Liotti said. “There is blatant racism and reverse discrimination in the public schools of New York City. This is why white parents do not want to send their children there.”

Liotti said its past time for the Board of Education to wake up to reverse racism.

“It’s no longer the blacks and minorities who are being discriminated against,” he said. “It is discrimination against white teachers who are making great sacrifices to be there.”

In Cummings’ version of the lesson on Jan. 9, she took advantage of a “teachable moment” after showing a five-minute clip from the movie “Freedom.”

She says she asked four student volunteers to sit close together to show the “cramped conditions” aboard a slavery ship crossing the Middle Passage.

But she denied that any child laid on the floor at any time during the demonstration and denied making any physical contact with any student.

Cummings also alleges that Education Department investigators ignored evidence and a witness who backed up her version of events.

(Oh yes- once the anti white witch hunt begins- evidence is NOT RELEVANT!!!!)

But DOE spokesman Doug Cohen said an investigation into Cummings’ actions determined she used poor judgment.

“We’ve begun the process of firing Ms. Cummings based on an investigation of this unacceptable behavior and her performance as an educator,” Cohen said. “We’ll review this baseless lawsuit.”

(One has to wonder WHY a teacher would WALK on the backs of students? In light of how DANGEROUS it has become to even TOUCH a student - which experienced teacher with any sense would ever walk on some of them?? Credibility of the accusers is a serious issue here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The News story sparked a public outcry.

(Yes we are assured that all the usual social justice twits were loud in condemnation!! And evidence be damned! There is a white teacher to lynch!!!!!!!)

Mayor de Blasio, Councilman Jumaane Williams, other politicians and even Power 105 radio host Charlamagne Tha God all wrongly humiliated Cummings and labeled her a racist, her claims says.

“The Bronx has been described by some as a ‘war zone.’ White teachers who work there should get combat pay,” Liotti said.

“This is a case of blatant, reverse discrimination and we are going to teach the City and those responsible a lesson. This goes for Mayor de Blasio who will have to learn that his constituents are multi-ethnic, racial and religious. They include white people and dedicated teachers.”

(All of this crap sounds like a scene from the Tom Wolf book Mau Mauing the Flak Catchers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The Notice of Claim strongly criticizes The News’ coverage of the lesson. The claim states that The News relied on the account of one student in Cummings’ class, when in fact the article quoted two different students and reported that students and a staffer described what happened.

(And did the reporter take a SHORT CUT and simply get second hand quotes from that one student -regarding what the other student and staffer might have said? Was there SLOPPY journalism here that media needs to hide? And nobody apparently interviewed the witness offered by the teacher either?????)

The DOE moved Cummings out of the classroom and into a rubber room after the incident. She says an investigation “exonerated her from the false allegations.”

But Education Department officials said Cummings received a discontinuance notice on September 17th notifying her she’d be fired in 30 days.

Cummings held a probationary position as a teacher and probationary teachers have an opportunity to present information to challenge the process during those 30 days, as well as the right to appeal.

Rev. Kevin McCall, Crisis Director for the National Action Network, said the city did the right thing in seeking to terminate Cummings.

“The Department of Education did a thorough investigation as we asked them to. This is nothing but a case of stupidity,” McCall said. “We will be sending a letter thanking the Chancellor for doing what is right.”

(Unfortunately there is serious doubt in the minds of some members of the public regarding the advisability of letting possible RACISTS publicly LYNCH a teacher!!!!!!!!)

(And as this teacher was on PROBATION - it will be common knowledge that she is VULNERABLE to criticism! There have been articles printed in the past about how teachers are PRESSURED to deal lightly with black academic standards!!!!!!
Which is why such a disproportionate number of black kids drop out of Colleges and Universities!! Because they were not HONESTLY PREPARED for the work thanks to teachers who were AFRAID to point out their faults and failings for fear of critical comment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(And should we ask if there was not somebody in a position of authority who simply wanted another teacher candidate and chose to smear this one?? Just how much politically motivated manipulation is going on behind the scenes at our schools????)

 

[Mowich]

Christie Blatchford: Unlike Canada, U.K. has learned sex assault 'victims' aren't always victims

Hooray for Cressida Dick, the commissioner of the Metropolitan Police in London, who has formally led her force in abandoning its policy of automatically believing victims of sexual assault.

As The Times of London reported Monday, since taking over the Met about a year ago, Dick has told her officers that of course they are to keep an open mind, treat complainants with respect and dignity and “we should listen to them. We should record what they say.”

But, Dick said, “From that moment on, we are investigators.”

What seems so elementary — that the first job of police isn’t to “support” victims or anyone else, but rather to investigate complaints — got lost in 2014, when the notional acceptance of victims as inherently “being truthful” went to a flat-out recommendation that “The presumption that a victim should always be believed should be institutionalized.”

This “we believe” mindset was in part responsible for the Operation Midland scandal, which saw a number of prominent men ruined (though never criminally charged) by allegations they were involved in a VIP pedophile ring, all on the say-so of a single alleged victim known as “Nick.”

That was the finding of a report into Operation Midland by retired high court judge Sir Richard Henriques, who found that the presumption of innocence was “set aside” by detectives in their eagerness, and what they felt was their duty, to believe Nick.

Henriques said this protocol of automatically believing victims “perverts our system of justice, strikes at the very core of the criminal justice process, will generate miscarriages of justice on a considerable scale,” and should be scrapped. And scrapped, thanks to Dick, it has been.

Henriques went even further, and rued the use of the word “victim” in U.K. legislation and said, “since the investigative process is similarly engaged in ascertaining facts which will, if proven, establish guilt, the use of the word ‘victim’ at the commencement of an investigation is simply inaccurate and should cease.”

Interestingly, there was another development Monday in U.K. justice, with the director of public prosecutions, Alison Saunders, reported to be stepping down when her five-year contract ends next fall.

The announcement of her resignation came after several recent rape trials collapsed when prosecutors apparently failed to disclose evidence — much of it text messages — to the defence, as they’re obliged to do, just as Canadian prosecutors are. The Crown Prosecution Service is now reviewing all current rape cases.

In Canada, meantime, the pendulum continues to swing the other way.

Despite huge pushback from defence lawyers and legal organizations, Bill C-51 is almost but not quite law — having passed in the House and on its way to second reading in the Senate.

It’s this bill, colloquially known as the new Ghomeshi rules, which expands the definition of sexual activity to include communications made “for a sexual purpose or whose content is of a sexual nature.”

As the Canadian Bar Association said in a letter to the justice committee which, last fall, was studying the bill, the amendments mean that “an accused with records that could impeach complainants or witnesses” can’t use those records unless they first get a judge’s OK.

It was precisely this sort of communication — emails from the complainants to the accused — that was used so effectively in cross-examination by Ghomeshi’s main lawyer, Marie Henein.

What these messages showed in the case of all three complainants was that despite their testimony in court that after their alleged attacks they were so traumatized and wary they never saw Ghomeshi again except in public, they had all either tried to (in one instance) and/or actually done so.

In one instance, the complainant forgot to disclose to police or prosecutors that she’d had dinner, post-alleged attack, with Ghomeshi, taken him home in a cab and given him a hand job and, in the other, the complainant had actively courted him for about a year after the purported assault, once telling him she had wanted to “—- your brains out” on the very night of the alleged assault.

In other words, the messages revealed that there were great gaps between what the complainants told the judge (and before him, police and prosecutors) and their private messages to Ghomeshi.

As Ottawa lawyer Michael Spratt wrote for Canadian Lawyer magazine last year, as C-51 was introduced, and this was about 15 months after Ghomeshi was acquitted, “People did not like that.

“So now, if the defence has a record that shows the complainant is lying or misrepresenting the evidence, that record must be disclosed in advance.

“A lawyer is then appointed for the complainant, who is granted standing to argue for suppression of the defence evidence.

“In other words, the legislation will tip off a liar that records exist exposing their lie and then gives them a chance to come up with an explanation.”

Worth noting is that at the time Ghomeshi was charged, the Toronto Police sex crimes unit was headed by a woman, Insp. Joanna Beaven-Desjardins, who deeply believed all complainants from the get-go.

As she put it at a press conference announcing that three (later discredited) women had come forward with allegations against Ghomeshi, “We believe victims when they come in, 100 per cent. We are behind them 100 per cent … We believe them right from the onset.”

“We” were on the wrong track.

It was, for the record, a lousy investigation, the complainants only minimally and tepidly questioned, and never challenged, of course, lest they have felt disrespected or, God forbid, disbelieved.

nationalpost.com/opinion/christie-blatchford-unlike-canada-u-k-has-learned-sex-assault-victims-arent-always-victims

 

[spilledthebeer]

Christie Blatchford: Unlike Canada, U.K. has learned sex assault 'victims' aren't always victims

Hooray for Cressida Dick, the commissioner of the Metropolitan Police in London, who has formally led her force in abandoning its policy of automatically believing victims of sexual assault.

As The Times of London reported Monday, since taking over the Met about a year ago, Dick has told her officers that of course they are to keep an open mind, treat complainants with respect and dignity and “we should listen to them. We should record what they say.”

But, Dick said, “From that moment on, we are investigators.”

What seems so elementary — that the first job of police isn’t to “support” victims or anyone else, but rather to investigate complaints — got lost in 2014, when the notional acceptance of victims as inherently “being truthful” went to a flat-out recommendation that “The presumption that a victim should always be believed should be institutionalized.”

This “we believe” mindset was in part responsible for the Operation Midland scandal, which saw a number of prominent men ruined (though never criminally charged) by allegations they were involved in a VIP pedophile ring, all on the say-so of a single alleged victim known as “Nick.”

That was the finding of a report into Operation Midland by retired high court judge Sir Richard Henriques, who found that the presumption of innocence was “set aside” by detectives in their eagerness, and what they felt was their duty, to believe Nick.

Henriques said this protocol of automatically believing victims “perverts our system of justice, strikes at the very core of the criminal justice process, will generate miscarriages of justice on a considerable scale,” and should be scrapped. And scrapped, thanks to Dick, it has been.

Henriques went even further, and rued the use of the word “victim” in U.K. legislation and said, “since the investigative process is similarly engaged in ascertaining facts which will, if proven, establish guilt, the use of the word ‘victim’ at the commencement of an investigation is simply inaccurate and should cease.”

Interestingly, there was another development Monday in U.K. justice, with the director of public prosecutions, Alison Saunders, reported to be stepping down when her five-year contract ends next fall.

The announcement of her resignation came after several recent rape trials collapsed when prosecutors apparently failed to disclose evidence — much of it text messages — to the defence, as they’re obliged to do, just as Canadian prosecutors are. The Crown Prosecution Service is now reviewing all current rape cases.

In Canada, meantime, the pendulum continues to swing the other way.

Despite huge pushback from defence lawyers and legal organizations, Bill C-51 is almost but not quite law — having passed in the House and on its way to second reading in the Senate.

It’s this bill, colloquially known as the new Ghomeshi rules, which expands the definition of sexual activity to include communications made “for a sexual purpose or whose content is of a sexual nature.”

As the Canadian Bar Association said in a letter to the justice committee which, last fall, was studying the bill, the amendments mean that “an accused with records that could impeach complainants or witnesses” can’t use those records unless they first get a judge’s OK.

It was precisely this sort of communication — emails from the complainants to the accused — that was used so effectively in cross-examination by Ghomeshi’s main lawyer, Marie Henein.

What these messages showed in the case of all three complainants was that despite their testimony in court that after their alleged attacks they were so traumatized and wary they never saw Ghomeshi again except in public, they had all either tried to (in one instance) and/or actually done so.

In one instance, the complainant forgot to disclose to police or prosecutors that she’d had dinner, post-alleged attack, with Ghomeshi, taken him home in a cab and given him a hand job and, in the other, the complainant had actively courted him for about a year after the purported assault, once telling him she had wanted to “—- your brains out” on the very night of the alleged assault.

In other words, the messages revealed that there were great gaps between what the complainants told the judge (and before him, police and prosecutors) and their private messages to Ghomeshi.

As Ottawa lawyer Michael Spratt wrote for Canadian Lawyer magazine last year, as C-51 was introduced, and this was about 15 months after Ghomeshi was acquitted, “People did not like that.

“So now, if the defence has a record that shows the complainant is lying or misrepresenting the evidence, that record must be disclosed in advance.

“A lawyer is then appointed for the complainant, who is granted standing to argue for suppression of the defence evidence.

“In other words, the legislation will tip off a liar that records exist exposing their lie and then gives them a chance to come up with an explanation.”

Worth noting is that at the time Ghomeshi was charged, the Toronto Police sex crimes unit was headed by a woman, Insp. Joanna Beaven-Desjardins, who deeply believed all complainants from the get-go.

As she put it at a press conference announcing that three (later discredited) women had come forward with allegations against Ghomeshi, “We believe victims when they come in, 100 per cent. We are behind them 100 per cent … We believe them right from the onset.”

“We” were on the wrong track.

It was, for the record, a lousy investigation, the complainants only minimally and tepidly questioned, and never challenged, of course, lest they have felt disrespected or, God forbid, disbelieved.

nationalpost.com/opinion/christie-blatchford-unlike-canada-u-k-has-learned-sex-assault-victims-arent-always-victims

How about that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Brit cops must be getting frustrated..................................................


dealing with the local equivalent of hatchet jobs on prominent people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cdns can RELATE to that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The name Pat Brown is not forgotten!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the Yankee dog and pony show over Brett Kavanaugh was an even BIGGER FARCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals have damaged themselves....................................


and hampered REAL VICTIMS everywhere...............................


with their INSANE excesses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Blackleaf]

Borat on feminism:

 

[spilledthebeer]

Borat on feminism:

Yeah..............................................


Borat can be amazingly annoying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AND WILDLY PROVOCATIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Women are of course just as capable as men..............................................


of being selfish pig headed JERKS?????????????????????????????


Just look at the Wynne-bag LIE-berals who set NATIONAL RECORDS.........................................


for greed and corruption!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Or we could look at Rachel Notley...............................................


the NDP Knothead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Who figured a wild spending spree and higher taxes...................................


would go over well while the value of the richest Alberta resource...........................................


that would be oil and the govt revenues it brought in...........................................


were GUTTED by economic choices made in international markets...............................


that resulted in a glut of oil on the markets...........................................



and by choices made in Ottawa by LIE-berals dedicated to DESTROYING the Cdn oil patch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Let us PRAY that the Wynne-bag waste and corruption records..........................................


are never broken by any other Cdn govt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The UGLY FACT IS....................................


that Feminiazis are grossly arrogant and greedy..............................................


and they feel ENTITLED to more than their fair share!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


Feminazis - as an example - whine about how many women died in childbirth............................................


and conveniently IGNORE how many men DROWNED when their fishing boat sank in a storm...........................


or the tree they were cutting down fell on them....................................


or the Buffalo they were hunting turned and gored them......................................


while the men were working to feed the families!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Each of us has unique strengths and frustrating weaknesses..............................................


and Feminazis who whine that modern women are treated unfairly......................................


have the same sense of Fair Play as Adolf Hitler or Joe Stalin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Various studies have documented the LIES told by Feminazis........................................


Christina Hoff-Somers did a fine job of documenting the DELIBERATE LIES.......................................


in her book "Who Stole Feminism"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And Doctor Jordan Peterson has become internationally famous for exposing the Feminazi agenda!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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Japanese journalist wins damages in high-profile lawsuit over alleged rape
Reuters
Published:
December 18, 2019
Updated:
December 18, 2019 10:58 AM EST
TOKYO — Japanese journalist Shiori Ito on Wednesday won her civil lawsuit seeking damages from a prominent reporter who she said had raped her, a verdict welcomed by women’s rights advocates in a country where sexual assault victims often stay silent.
A Tokyo court ordered television journalist Noriyuki Yamaguchi to pay 3.3 million yen ($39,547) in damages to Ito, a freelance journalist who has become a well-known face of Japan’s #MeToo movement, which has struggled to gain momentum.
Ito fought back tears as she spoke through a megaphone to reporters and supporters outside the court after the verdict.
“I’m so happy,” she said, her voice breaking at times with emotion. “It’s not over. Now, I have to deal with how I live with my scars.”
Ito, 30, had sought 11 million yen in damages for her suffering. Prosecutors had declined to indict Yamaguchi following her complaint to police that he had raped her while she was unconscious in 2015.
Ito made waves in 2017 when she took the rare step of going public with allegations that Yamaguchi, a senior television journalist known for his reporting on Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, had raped her after she met him for drinks to discuss an offer to help her find a job.
The court also ruled against a counter-suit by Yamaguchi, who has repeatedly denied the allegations, in which he sought 130 million yen in damages from Ito.
Yamaguchi told a news conference that he would appeal the verdict, saying he had done nothing illegal.
Japanese journalist Noriyuki Yamaguchi attends his news conference after a court verdict in Tokyo, Japan, Dec. 18, 2019. Kim Kyung-Hoon / REUTERS
The court said in a summary of the verdict that the credibility of Ito’s account, in which she said she was forced to have sex while unconscious and despite resisting after she regained consciousness, was relatively high.
It also said there were grave doubts about the credibility of Yamaguchi’s statements, in which he said the sex was consensual.
In awarding the damages, the court said that Ito still suffered flashbacks and panic attacks as a result.
The court also said Ito’s decision to go public was intended to be in the public interest and did not violate Yamaguchi’s privacy.
Sexual assault victims in Japan often shy away from reporting incidents for fear of being blamed and humiliated.
Only 2.8% of women forced to have sex consulted police, a 2017 government survey showed.
Asked at a news conference what message she would like to convey to victims of sexual violence, Ito said: “You can take action any time. Surviving should be first and foremost.”
‘EMPOWERING VERDICT’
Mari Miura, a professor of political science at Sophia University, said the verdict would encourage more victims to speak out.
“It’s very empowering for a lot of women and will encourage more #MeToo voices,” she said.
Ito suggested in her book “Black Box” that she might have been given a “date rape” drug but that she had no way to know.
Yamaguchi wrote in a magazine article in 2017 that he had “neither seen nor heard of the date rape drugs” Ito mentioned and that she had been “overconfident about the amount of alcohol and drank too much.”
Ito also wrote in her book that she was forced to re-enact the alleged rape with a life-sized doll while male police watched. She did not identify the policemen.
Reuters could not confirm this incident, which was not touched upon in the summary of the court ruling. A spokesman for the Tokyo Metropolitan Police said the department could not immediately comment.
Ito has said she was also trolled on social media by critics.
The events formed the subject of a BBC documentary, Japan’s Secret Shame.
Ito wrote in her book that police had obtained an arrest warrant against Yamaguchi but it was not implemented.
She also wrote that the arrest was called off at the last minute by a senior police official.
Ito was an intern at Reuters during the time she said the rape occurred. She left Reuters in June 2015.
Prosecutors later decided not to bring charges. They do not give reasons for such decisions.
A civil judicial panel later rejected Ito’s appeal to force a prosecution, saying it had found no grounds to overturn the prosecutors’ decision.
At the time, opposition lawmakers questioned whether Yamaguchi had received special treatment because of his close ties to Abe.
Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga has previously denied there were any irregularities regarding the case. On Wednesday, he declined to comment on the verdict but told a news conference that sexual violence was a violation of human rights and intolerable.
The head of the National Public Safety Commission, which oversees the police, also denied in parliament that there were any problems with the investigation, media reported at the time.
Legislators revised Japan’s century-old rape law in 2017 to include harsher penalties, including raising the minimum punishment for rapists to five years in prison from three.
The reforms, however, left intact controversial requirements that prosecutors must prove violence or intimidation was involved or that the victim was “incapable of resistance,” prompting calls from academics, activists and psychiatrists for further changes to make all non-consensual sex a crime.
Ito said on Wednesday that she hoped the law would be revised.

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MANDEL: Sex assault victim fined $2,000 for violating pub ban on her own name
Author of the article:Michele Mandel
Publishing date:Mar 19, 2021 • 1 hour ago • 3 minute read • comment bubbleJoin the conversation
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Call it twisted justice.

The Waterloo-area victim just wanted to share with her supporters the transcript of the judge’s reasons for finding her assailant guilty of sexually assaulting her. But now she’s the one in trouble with the law.


The unredacted transcript contained her name, which was under a court-order publication ban. When the convicted offender got wind of what she’d done, he complained to police and they actually charged her with violating the pub ban.

It was his sweet revenge — and the judicial system was his enabler.

Granted, the woman broke the letter of the law. Her lawyer told The Record that the victim thought she was free to disclose her own name, especially when the people she was sending the transcript to were her friends and family who were obviously aware that she was the complainant in the case. She didn’t understand that she must first go to court to request the lifting of the pub ban and that even privately sharing that information violated the court order.

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While ignorance of the law is no defence, surely a mea culpa in this situation should have been enough. Instead, after her guilty plea, the woman was convicted and fined a whopping $2,000 plus a $600 victim surcharge — victimizing her for the second time.

“I think it’s ridiculous and abhorrent,” said Deb Singh, chair of the Ontario Coalition of Rape Crisis Centres. “It doesn’t surprise me, but I still find it very disgusting.”

“She gets ‘in trouble’ for sharing her own case, that was transcribed, in court, and she didn’t post it online, she clearly shared it with friends and family,” she said.

Singh doesn’t know the particulars of this case but wonders if the victim was sharing the transcript because her supporters weren’t able to be with her at the trial due to COVID-19 limitations.

If they had been able to sit in the courtroom and hear the judge’s reasons, of course, no ban would have been violated.

“What’s the usefulness of charging her?” Singh asked. “What was this law’s purpose? If it’s to protect a victim’s identity, then a victim is allowed to share if they so choose, especially when it wasn’t in a public circle.”

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Instead, it’s allowed the perpetrator to weaponize the legal system to harm her yet again.

Under the Criminal Code, if a request is made — and it’s usually made by the Crown — a judge must order a publication ban to protect the identity of all victims of sexual offences. The reasoning is understandable: Studies have shown as many as 90% of victims of sexual violence don’t report to police because they don’t want to disclose what’s happened to them.

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“There is no other crime that when a victim comes forward, they are more blamed for the crime having happened to them than sexual assault,” explained Singh.

Publication bans were supposed to encourage reluctant complainants. But surely they weren’t designed to punish the victim.


According to The Record, Ontario Court Justice Thomas McKay noted “the unusual set of circumstances” in the case but still went ahead and handed her a hefty fine.

“Court orders have to be followed, particularly ones that deal with people’s privacy,” McKay reportedly explained.

Even if it’s her own privacy we’re talking about? How outrageous is that?

She dared to think it was her story to share.

The judicial system – and the man who sexually assaulted her — deemed otherwise.

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MANDEL: Sex assault victim fined $2,000 for violating pub ban on her own name

A Waterloo-area victim just wanted to share with supporters the judge's reasons for finding her assailant guilty of sexually assaulting her.

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CHAUDHRI: How did #metoo skip Canadian Military?
It's time for sexual misconduct in the Canadian Armed Forces to end

Author of the article:Sunira Chaudhri
Publishing date:Mar 20, 2021 • 8 hours ago • 5 minute read • comment bubbleJoin the conversation
Canada's Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan and former chief of defence staff Jonathan Vance listen to a question during a news conference in Ottawa on Friday, June 26, 2020.
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Despite patting itself on the back for being a “world leader” as to the proportion of women in its military, Canada has done little to solve its sexual misconduct problem.

Many military women continue to share the #metoo experience with little recourse.

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Last week, Lt.-Col. Eleanor Taylor, the deputy commander of the 36th Brigade Group, resigned from the Canadian Armed Forces (CAF) claiming she is disgusted with incidents of sexual harassment at the highest ranks. Her resignation came on the heels of not one, but two senior military leaders — Gen. Jonathan Vance, former Chief of defence staff, and his replacement Adm. Art McDonald — being investigated for allegations of sexual misconduct.

“I have been both a victim of, and participant in, this damaging cycle of silence, and I am proud of neither,” Taylor wrote.

The allegations surrounding Vance include those from a subordinate female officer Maj. Kellie Brennan. At times Brennan reported to Vance during their relationship that commenced in 2001, including the period that he acted as chief of the defence staff (CDS) in 2015.

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Following a scathing report on sexual misconduct in the military, Vance launched Operation Honour to publicly commit to ending the culture of misconduct and misogyny in the CAF. Ironically, it was at this time Kellie alleges she was instructed by Vance to lie about his sexual exploits with her.

Vance denies this happened.

Kellie claimed to Global News that their relationship was intimate and included having sex in his office and in their cars while she reported to him. She alleges she told higher ranking members about the relationship but it was a hot potato issue, no one wanted to know the details. She alleges she could not say “no” to Vance given the fact she reported to him. If he called or texted her, she was obliged to respond.

Kellie claims she was subject to multiple sexual assault incidents over her 30 year career, including rape. When she told Vance about her experiences, she alleges he did nothing to investigate.

He does not appear to be alone. Consider the testimony of Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan several weeks ago who admitted to the House of Commons that allegations of sexual misconduct regarding Vance came to him three years ago. Sajjan said he did not want to hear the evidence of misconduct and referred it back to the ombudsman to have military police investigate.

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Sajjan claimed it would be inappropriate for him as a politician to get involved. So no investigation was ever launched. While some may agree Sajjan should not have been involved, the fact the Defence Minister did not at the very least order an investigation or ensure one was launched within the last three years is baffling. The hot potato travels on.

The military is not your typical employer.

Firstly, one cannot quit on a whim. Most are contractually obligated to remain at the CAF for a number of years. To leave voluntarily the process is purposely prolonged. One must apply to be released and be prepared, according to its own website, for CAF to interview you, that you may be urged to stay and your reasons for requesting release will be considered in your application.

Second, the power of higher ranking officers is tangible. Placing the integrity of a higher ranking official in disrepute has lasting impact.

Any victim of sexual assault in this environment would feel hopeless.

The CAF owes much more to women not only as an institution but as an employer. Women must be free to leave the CAF without sanction until sexual misconduct is not just acknowledged but ousted from the CAF. It’s time for the military #metoo problem to end.

Sunira Chaudhri is an employment and labour lawyer and partner at Levitt Sheikh Chaudhri Swann. She sheds light on some questions for employees during COVID-19.
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CHAUDHRI: How did #metoo skip Canadian Military?

Despite boasting of being a "world leader" with women in its military, Canada has done little to solve its sexual misconduct problem.

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Female service members blast military police over sex misconduct investigations
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Publishing date:Apr 20, 2021 • 2 hours ago • 1 minute read • Join the conversation
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OTTAWA — Female service members and veterans are criticizing the way Canada’s military police investigate allegations of sexual assault and harassment in the ranks.

The women voiced their complaints today to the House of Commons committee on the status of women, which is grappling with how to eliminate sex misconduct in the armed forces.


Several women who say they were the target of such behaviour while in uniform told the committee they felt like they were being interrogated and otherwise unsupported when they met with police.

Air force technician Emily Tulloch described her experiences meeting with military police as “dreadful,” and that the current training for investigators needs to be “torn apart” and restarted.


Some of those appearing before the committee also raised concerns over how the rest of the military justice system handles cases of inappropriate and criminal sexual behaviour.

That includes often letting those accused of such conduct plead down to much lesser charges.

Female service members blast military police over sex misconduct investigations

OTTAWA — Female service members and veterans are criticizing the way Canada’s military police investigate allegations of sexual assault and harassment in the ranks.

torontosun.com

 

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BRAUN: Will #MeToo finally come to rock 'n roll?
Author of the article:Liz Braun
Publishing date:Aug 29, 2021 • 11 hours ago • 3 minute read • Join the conversation
Rock musician Bob Dylan performs at the Wiltern Theatre in Los Angeles on May 5, 2004.
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Sex and drugs and rock ’n’ roll — or maybe not.

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A lawsuit against Bob Dylan has prompted a walk down memory lane about major rock stars and the pubescent girls they love. It isn’t pretty.


St. Bob is being sued by a woman identified only as JC for alleged sexual abuse she claims took place in 1965 when she was 12. The woman, now 68, alleges she was groomed by Dylan, given alcohol and drugs, and threatened with physical violence prior to being being used and abused sexually.

Anyone adjacent to Dylan for work or play can attest that he’s kind of a tool. His ex-wife Sara Lownds once claimed he hit her in the jaw during an argument. Still, the violence allegations are disturbing.

But the sex-with-teenagers angle is nothing new. Singer Dana Gillespie claims in her 2020 memoir (Weren’t Born A Man) that she slept with Dylan not long after turning 16.

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And Suze Rotolo, the woman walking with Dylan on the cover of The Freewheelin’ Bob Dylan album, was 17 when she moved in with the singer.

(Are you mentally parsing the differences between girls of 12 or 14 or 17? That’s why there are the age of consent laws, friend.)

The woman’s suit against Dylan has ignited a conversation about rock stars and underage girls. Not all men who allegedly prefer to have sex with children are rich, powerful or famous, but that lot is perhaps more likely to get away with it.

Still, given what happened in Hollywood with #MeToo, it’s astonishing that rock stars have not yet had their well-deserved comeuppance.

And it’s not as if their behaviour was a secret.

Someone usually jumps in here to say “things were different back then,” but that’s not true.

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People were horrified in the 1950s when Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13-year-old cousin; horrified in the ’60s when Elvis Presley was courting 14-year-old Priscilla Beaulieu; horrified in the ’70s when Steve Tyler was granted guardianship over 16-year-old Julia Holcomb (so he could cross state lines with her); horrified in the ’80s when Rolling Stone Bill Wyman, 52, married teen Mandy Smith — who was 13 when they met — and horrified in the ’90s when an almost 40-year-old Jerry Seinfeld was dating 17-year-old Shoshanna Lonstein.

Elvis Presley and Priscilla Presley in May 1967.
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Consider Ted Nugent, then, high up on the creep list for allegedly becoming legal guardian to the 17-year-old girl he was sleeping with (he was 30) so he couldn’t be charged with kidnapping.

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There actually is a difference between the past and now — the current belief that something can be done about this.

But things haven’t really changed. Look at the relationship between underage Kylie Jenner and Tyga.

There were plenty of statutory rape jokes when they first went public, but nothing ever happened.

Predatory musician stories often focus on the women who were loud and proud about being groupies 40 years ago. Lori Maddox’ name usually comes up, along with her thrilling tales of losing her virginity to David Bowie at 14 and being “kidnapped” and brought to a hotel because Led Zeppelin’s Jimmy Page decided he had to have her.

Maddox and Sable Starr were part of the Baby Groupies in Los Angeles; Starr says she slept with Mick Jagger, Iggy Pop, Alice Cooper and Rod Stewart, among others.

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The above-mentioned Dana Gillespie claims that by 15 she’d had sexual encounters with Bowie, Page, Kieth Moon and Jagger.

Some of these women say it was all awesome fun. Others have had a change of heart with age and wonder about the power imbalance involved in what they did, and with whom.

But happy groupie stories should not obscure the very real tales of predation and abuse, like those told about R. Kelly, who married Aaliyah when she was 14 and now faces allegations of human trafficking and child pornography, among other federal charges.


Lawyer Jackie Fuchs, who was known as Jackie Fox when she was the bass player for The Runaways, has said she was raped by the band’s manager, Kim Fowley, when she was 16.

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Fuchs told the New York Post about the exploitation of young fans and how it has been common for decades, noting that rock stars are used to getting whatever they want, including sex with vulnerable underage girls.

“The music industry has not yet had its day of reckoning by the #MeToo movement,” said Fuchs.

“But it is going to happen.”

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