McGuinty’s green energy disaster

Locutus

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We have long argued that the Ontario government’s headlong rush to convert Canada’s industrial heartland to “green” energy would turn out to be nothing but a colossal waste of money. Since most alternative energies remain commercially impractical (that’s why they’re still alternative and not mainstream), the blind rush by Dalton McGuinty’s Liberal government to substitute wind, solar and bio energy for coal and oil was never likely to produce much new energy, just higher power rates for residential and industrial consumers. But even we underestimated the extent to which the Ontario Liberals’ 2009 Green Energy Act had failed in just over two-year’s time.

In one of the most scathing indictments of government mismanagement we have ever witnessed, Ontario Auditor-General Jim McCarter reported Monday that Mr. McGuinty’s green dream has rapidly become an $8-billion nightmare for Ontario taxpayers and electricity users. Almost no new net power will be generated by all the green-energy projects hastily funded since the bill was passed, but the average residential consumer will see more than $400 a year added to his power bill for a decade to pay for all the bad contracts with and subsidies to eco-friendly power suppliers.


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Walter

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McGuilicutty is just another in a long line of leftard politicians who think if something isn't working just throw lots more of other people's money at it and soon we will have Utopia.
 

mentalfloss

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In the key of D.

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh McLiar had a farm
See Lie See Lie Go!
And on his farm he had windmills
See Lie See Lie Go!
With a WHOOSH WHOOSH here
and a WHOOSH WHOOSH there
WHOOSH here
WHOOSH there
Nimby's flyin everywere
Ooooooooooh McLiar had a farm
See Lie See Lie Go!
 

mentalfloss

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Why your hydro bill is hard to explain — even for an auditor

He doesn’t dish up a sizzling scandal this year, but the auditor general explodes a few myths about Ontario’s green energy experiment — the good, the bad and the ugly.

His latest report documents how haste made waste as the Liberals rushed to roll out their green energy plan. Being under-prepared, they overspent. But even if the execution had been flawless, renewable energy still wouldn’t come cheap.

While the media have been distracted by all the sound and fury from anti-wind protesters — people who object on esthetic grounds, worry about declining property values, or claim unproven health problems — there are larger economic issues at play:

The sun doesn’t always shine and the wind doesn’t always blow.

No surprise there, but what’s less known is just how out of sync Mother Nature is with Father Ontario: Due to weather conditions here, wind turbines produce, on average, a mere 28 per cent of their theoretical limit — far less than most other sources. Output “fluctuated daily, from 0 per cent on summer days, when electricity demand was high, to 94 per cent on winter days, when demand was lower,” the report notes.

In Ontario, sadly, the wind blows most when we need it least. Output is maddeningly “out of phase” with demand. At 6 a.m., when demand starts rising, the wind decreases; by 8 p.m., as demand declines, the wind picks up again. It seems a cruel trick.


That’s why Ontarians are paying twice — first, for subsidized solar panels and wind turbines, and second, for standby power from gas-powered plants that pick up the slack when electricity is needed in peak periods.
We also pay when there is surplus power, exporting it at a loss while paying producers here to power down their turbines. Last year, 86 per cent of wind power was produced on days when Ontario was already in a net export position. Reducing the output of cheaper hydro (by diverting or spilling) to “make room” for wind power can be a losing proposition.

That doesn’t mean Ontario shouldn’t be in the wind business or eschew solar. Both should be part of the mix, because the energy matrix is complex.
Operating costs for renewable energy may seem high now, but they are likely to decline significantly in future, while conventional energy will become more expensive. That’s why we should hedge our bets.

The Liberal government is also trying to leverage its energy strategy into an industrial strategy that can create green jobs, which is a risk worth taking. But the auditor’s report is a reminder that, for all our fascination with renewables — and the uplifting symbolism of a solar panel or wind turbine — nothing is more cost-effective than conservation.

Another finding: two supposedly powerful and independent outside agencies have been progressively emasculated. The Ontario Power Authority, which was created to plan for energy needs and advise the government, has been reduced to the role of little brother to the energy minister of the day, who second-guesses the OPA and issues directives or cabinet orders.

And the Ontario Energy Board, a once-vital regulatory authority, now oversees less than half of your electricity bill, because so much of the supply mix and costs are out of its hands. That leaves ratepayers at the mercy of privately held companies that have signed fixed-price contracts, shielded from the scrutiny to which publicly held Ontario Power Generation is subjected at OEB hearings.

As for the debt retirement charge (DRC), that annoying chunk of your monthly bill imposed by a previous PC government to pay off the old Ontario Hydro debt — which the Tories tried to wish away in the last campaign — the auditor has confirmed that the debt must still be serviced.
He could find no sign of the misappropriation that the Tories allege (it grew under the PCs to $20.6 billion in 2003-04, while the Liberals have gradually reduced it to $13.4 billion).

That said, a full accounting of the old Ontario Hydro debt is long overdue, and the Liberals have promised to abide by the auditor’s recommendation. Like the mythology of green energy as a panacea, the mythology of the hydro debt bogeyman is best brought down to earth.

Canada News: Cohn: Why your hydro bill is hard to explain

Smart kid!
 
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Locutus

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Though shalt not criticize a liberal government. Makes some people cranky and defensive.
 

mentalfloss

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The Liberals definitely have blood on their hands, but the issue is somewhat overblown.

(awaits a spineless -1 from Walter)
 

Ralph B

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oh pleeeeeeeeease the debt retirement issue is a hard pill to swallow as when the entire hydro board was dismissed for voting themselves lucrative pay increases!! Had it been a regular joe running a smaller company the government would have siezed all involved assets charged them with embezzelment thrown their asses in jail sold off assests to recoup what they could!! Instead what did our government do buy out their contracts at a gross amount for the consumers to be put in debt for!! they should be going after those involved and the officials that made it happen!!

Like when and where did they add the dilivery charge??? That is a farce too!! Like can I go to the local power supplier and pick up the power I wish to use this month???

Not to mention my bill states usage 676 billed 714 if i used 676 why do i pay for 714??? who is getting the 38 that i pay for???

ah and to say that it is a nessesidy of life to cook and heat yet we are taxed not only on usage but all other charges that they wish to add!! taxed on a debt retirement charge that the goverment allowed to occur!!
 

lone wolf

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McGuilicutty is just another in a long line of leftard politicians who think if something isn't working just throw lots more of other people's money at it and soon we will have Utopia.
...as opposed to sell it off to the for-profit sector and forever kill heavy energy-using industry in the province
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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I don't buy into the Nimby group that says the wind turbines cause health issues, but the cost of shoving this through is nothing less than disgusting and extremely short sighted. Another George Smitherman debacle endorsed by Dalton McGuinty.
 

Nuggler

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I don't buy into the Nimby group that says the wind turbines cause health issues, but the cost of shoving this through is nothing less than disgusting and extremely short sighted. Another George Smitherman debacle endorsed by Dalton McGuinty.

Indeed sir; it was poorly thought out and worse executed. Exceeded only by the e.health debacle which could have been implemented by intelligent computer programmers employed by the prov. govt. at a lot less cost. - they didn't ask me. The well paid dorkess which oversaw this and was let go, is now in about the same position somewhere in the US. God help em.

What seems to drive Dalton is arrogance and the inability to pay attention. Bit of a dance across the floor, next election, he could sit at the right hand of Harpo should he wish to go fed.

There is a school of thought which says politicians have strong psychopathic leanings, as do a lot of top business types. Who wooda thunk it.