Marine Le Pen causes a stir on Marr

Machjo

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What part of renegotiate means shelved ?

He did say he'll shelve it if he can't renegotiate it. Also, if Mexico and Canada are focused on striking a mutually beneficial deal while the US is focused on one that 'puts America first,' then chances are they won't reach a deal and so Trump will pull the plug.

That said, he might be more pragmatic than we think.
 

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He did say he'll shelve it if he can't renegotiate it. Also, if Mexico and Canada are focused on striking a mutually beneficial deal while the US is focused on one that 'puts America first,' then chances are they won't reach a deal and so Trump will pull the plug.

That said, he might be more pragmatic than we think.
You never really took the time to listen to him did you ?
 

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Donald Trump’s startling and explosive victory has not only shaken America’s oligarchy to its core, it’s also sending shock waves across Europe and scaring the top hats off plutocrats and their tame politicians.

As with the 2003 war against Iraq, the US media totally dropped its mask of phony impartiality and became a cheerleader for the Clintons and their financial backers.

Media was clearly revealed as a propaganda organ for the ruling elite. No wonder its disgusted clients are decamping to online sources or just ignoring the biased media.

Amazingly, working class men and women rose up and overthrew the oligarchy, led by the corporate media and the self-enriching, war-promoting Clinton dynasty and its Davos friends. There was plenty of anguish among leftist groups and weepy young women, but America breathed a gigantic sigh of relief.

So did the stock market. So did ordinary white Americans royally fed up with the elite’s promotion of ‘diversity,’ which they believe is a euphemism for mixing races, pushing junk popular culture, and advocating homosexuality, lesbianism, and bisexuality.

Across the Atlantic, political nerves were just as tense. Three major votes will be held in the coming 10 months in France, Germany and Italy, Europe’s economic, political and cultural core. The old order is scared to death by Trump’s crashing victory.

France holds a presidential primary in a month in which sitting president, François Hollande, is expected to be thrashed. Hollande’s public support now is struggling to reach 4%.

Former prime minister Nicholas Sarkozy has risen from the political dead and is preaching a farrago of populism, nationalism and Islamophobia. Many French don’t trust or like Sarko. He may shortly face charges for accepting illegal campaign money from Libya’s late Mummar Khadffi, in whose murder Sarko may be deeply implicated.

Dead Libyans tell no tales.

Sarko’s rivals are former foreign minister Alain Juppé, a moderate conservative and ally of the ailing former president Jacques Chirac, who remains France’s most liked politician. Juppé, dignified, sensible, and moderate, is just what France needs after the disastrous socialist president François Hollande.

But adding a wild card to the primary is the youthful ex-banker and rightwing socialist Emmanuel Macron, a former economy minister under Hollande. He used to work for the French Rothschilds, arousing suspicions on the left and far right. Macron is expected to shortly announce his candidacy for president.

Add in former prime minister François Fillon, a solid moderate with a reputation for strong ethics who may be able to stand up to France’s thuggish unions. Fillon, Juppé and Macron are all considered leftwing conservatives who can restore France’s staggering economy and fight the bureaucracy, teachers and, of course, the unions who can quickly shut down all key sectors of France’s economy.

Lurking in the background is the nemesis of France’s current political system, Madame Marine LePen, leader of the hard right

National Front. Anti-EU, anti-globalization, and anti-Muslim, she is a modern day version of France’s WWII Vichy Catholic far right. Le Pen, like her aged father Jean-Marie, is very popular and can articulate, like Trump, the anger and dismay of working whites.

She may knock the hapless Hollande out in the first round of voting in 2017. But Le Pen would then have to go on to defeat the moderate candidate – Sarkozy, Fillon, Macron or Juppé. This will be very tough because, as in previous elections, leftist and centrist voters will gang up to defeat her.

Such is conventional logic. But after Trump nothing is certain. Good! Our stagnant western economies and corrupt political systems badly need shaking up and refreshing. I say, ‘vive Monsieur Trump.’

On Dec 4, Italy holds a very important referendum to modernize its rickety political structure. If voters reject it, Italy’s young, reformist prime minister, Matteo Renzi, has vowed to resign. This would likely plunge Italy into political confusion and encourage a looming banking crisis.

Finally, in Germany, Angela Merkel’s coalition government looks increasingly fragile. Many Germans are tired of the ultra-moderate Merkel and her cautious government which is often accused of being an American vassal. If Germany ever wakens from its post-1945 stupor, all Europe will shake.

So enter Donald Trump just at a time when Europe may be coming to a boil.

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Johnnny

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Anyone else notice these powerful females rocking the same "Ideas" as the so called "patriarchy"... WTF you Ultra Radical Feminists i thought this wasn't supposed to happen?
 

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Elizabeth Warren is another one but she got told by the Clinton Dems, wait your turn.


Actually all of her commentaries on how shi tty the TPP would be disappeared from her website once she was told she wouldn't be running. Of course it's all out there but it makes it harder for people new to her to find it....


www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO6MhmCUUoQ
 

Ron in Regina

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The US leaving NAFTA would hurt Canada and Mexico, and the US. Sure we'd get a bigger piece of the pie, but it would be a smaller pie. Of course the US would be hurting itself too. But hey, who says Trump has thought about that. Mexican exporters to Canada that need access to imported parts from the US would now have to pay tariffs on them. Canadian exporters to Mexico that need to import parts from the US might then have to conform to new Canadian-content rules that Mexico would probably impose since the US would not be out of NAFTA. Canadian exporters to the US that depend on imported parts from Mexico would then have to abide by Canadian-content rules and so would have to produce its own or import parts from the US probably more expensively.

How does promoting economic inefficiency benefit anywone?

So you're coming around to seeing that Carbon Tax thing for what it really is then?
 

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bob chapman (rip), of the international forecaster news letter, knew LePen, and thought well of her, and he was pretty good at getting it right.

we are a significant trading partner to the US
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_trading_partners_of_the_United_States
bigger 'n china even
Trump will not be the whole problem, if there is one
It takes two to tangle

the eu was bigger but we are number two
but take Britain and France out of the eu we might be number one
 
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