Limbaugh's message to 'feminazis'

[captain morgan]

I guess your assumption is that, under a group plan, it's the individual people who negotiate with the insurance company to determine what is and what is not covered.

Every once in a while, you give off the image of someone with a clue, but generally speaking, not.

It's her problem, she is the one that is dissatisfied with the scope of coverage. She has options - they may be prohibitive from a cost perspective, but again - her problem. In the end, it still comes down to this - she's too stupid or too cheap or possibly has some kind of agenda relative to why she is pursuing this ends.

Hell, I have yet to see any educational institution that formally recognizes that sexual activity is considered a core activity of the educational experience, so why you have this notion that it is somehow a 'right' is entirely baffling.

 

[Tonington]

She has options

Including testifying in support of legislation. I'm sure at one point in time people were told if they didn't want to ride at the back of the bus, that they could start their own bus company. :roll:

 

[captain morgan]

Aren't you making an assumption about Flukes' lifestyle?

From Flukes' testimony:

"Without insurance coverage, contraception can cost a woman over $3,000 during
law school. For a lot of students who, like me, are on public interest scholarships,
that’s practically an entire summer’s salary. Forty percent of female students at
Georgetown Law report struggling financially as a result of this policy."

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/statement-Congress-letterhead-2nd%20hearing.pdf

That doesn't detail anyone's lifestyle, however, apparently 40% of the law students are spending $3000 on contraception over the course of a 32 months (assuming 2 semesters of 4 months each per year over 4 years)... What about the other 60% of the law students that don't report this kind of hardship?

The above is neither a condemnation nor an endorsement of the personal choices students make, but in my opinion, it does provide some interesting insight relative to the priorities set forth by Flukes.

Including testifying in support of legislation. I'm sure at one point in time people were told if they didn't want to ride at the back of the bus, that they could start their own bus company. :roll:

You gotta be kidding.

Civil Rights on par with Flukes' 'right' to f*ck with gvt sponsored contraceptives.

Congratulations, you just insulted a major global demographic

 

[Tonington]

What about the other 60% of the law students that don't report this kind of hardship?

Maybe their parents pay for their education...

 

[captain morgan]

Maybe their parents pay for their education...

Did Flukes' parents pay for her condoms when she lived at home?

Maybe they had a family health insurance plan that did, eh?

 

[L Gilbert]

From Flukes' testimony:

"Without insurance coverage, contraception can cost a woman over $3,000 during
law school. For a lot of students who, like me, are on public interest scholarships,
that’s practically an entire summer’s salary. Forty percent of female students at
Georgetown Law report struggling financially as a result of this policy."

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/statement-Congress-letterhead-2nd%20hearing.pdf

That doesn't detail anyone's lifestyle, however, apparently 40% of the law students are spending $3000 on contraception over the course of a 32 months (assuming 2 semesters of 4 months each per year over 4 years)... What about the other 60% of the law students that don't report this kind of hardship?

The above is neither a condemnation nor an endorsement of the personal choices students make, but in my opinion, it does provide some interesting insight relative to the priorities set forth by Flukes.

There's all kinds of possibilities.

Congratulations, you just insulted a major global demographic

Not a big deal. Most people are gullible and everyone is ignorant, too. How's that for insulting? lol

 

[Tonington]

Civil Rights on par with Flukes' 'right' to f*ck with gvt sponsored contraceptives.

The "on par" is that you're saying if people are displeased with things in society, they shouldn't try to change things, except to start their own company...

Heh, even Limbaugh backed away from these types of comments. You're slime.

Did Flukes' parents pay for her condoms when she lived at home?

The fact that you view condoms as the same thing as medication is very funny.

 

[captain morgan]

There's all kinds of possibilities.

Absolutely and no one is naive about the 'goings on' in a college setting.

Personally, I believe that the student insurance program is silly for not having some form of program to address this, but that is the decision of the insurance company itself. Factor-in the notion that Georgetown is a Catholic school and they have their specific policies that they've had in place for many years and it's a double-whammy

 

[Tonington]

I wonder if Georgetown teaches law from the Catholic perspective only...

 

[captain morgan]

The "on par" is that you're saying if people are displeased with things in society, they shouldn't try to change things, except to start their own company...

Yeah - Rosa Parks would be right with you on that one.

Heh, even Limbaugh backed away from these types of comments. You're slime.

Limbaugh apologized for using the word sl ut and wh0re. He didn't back-off from the principle.

You are waaayyy naive.

The fact that you view condoms as the same thing as medication is very funny.

We had already established that birth control pills for medically related reasons was covered by the insurance... It was in the link that you provided in which Flukes herself recognized that component.

Further - her repeated references were for contraception.

Are you getting this yet? C-O-N-T-R-A-C-E-P-T-I-O-N

I wonder if Georgetown teaches law from the Catholic perspective only...

Why back-off now?

You've already marginalized Civil Rights and Rosa Parks; isn't that your cue to attack Catholics?

 

[Tonington]

Yeah - Rosa Parks would be right with you on that one.

She sure wouldn't be like you saying someone should suck it up.

Limbaugh apologized for using the word sl ut and wh0re. He didn't back-off from the principle.

He apologized for how he worded it. It's disingenious to frame her position as the right to phuck, and you know it.

We had already established that birth control pills for medically related reasons was covered by the insurance.

In some cases. In others the administrators dispute the necessity, and accuse the women of lying. Even a lesbian student with polycystic ovaries, who they denied. I guess you ignored that part of what she said, it is very inconvenient I understand for you.

Are you getting this yet? C-O-N-T-R-A-C-E-P-T-I-O-N

Yes, contraceptive drugs...condoms are not drugs, understand? Do you need a pop-up book?

You've already marginalized Civil Rights and Rosa Parks

Hardly. I noted similar resistance to people who wanted to change something that they perceived as unjust. It's a common tactic of the intellectually impotent. I compared you to the people who wanted to keep things the way they are, not Fluke to Parks. Comprehend? Likely not. :roll:

I think it's legitimate to ask if they only teach from a Catholic perspective, considering they will only grant health coverage that is consistent with the Catholic dogma.

 

[captain morgan]

It's fun to watch you back pedal.

Barring a medical reason, birth control pills are contraceptives. Flukes specifies contraceptives - not contraceptive drugs (that's your little addition) and seeing how she has recognized that birth control pills for medical reasons are covered, that leaves few options... You figure out the alternatives, but pretty much any way you go, it's over the counter stuff.

As for Limbaugh, he apologized for using 2 specific words.

As for your heinous assumption on Rosa parks - it's still a remarkably tasteless parallel you drew... I suppose that seeing how you prefer to use some twisted logic to justify it, you'll be marginalizing Martin Luther King next.

 

[Tonington]

It's fun to watch you back pedal.
...Flukes specifies contraceptives - not contraceptive drugs (that's your little addition)

She was testifying on a particular requirement in a piece of legislation that relates to DRUGS.

 

[captain morgan]

She was testifying on a particular requirement in a piece of legislation that relates to DRUGS.

Yet from a medical perspective, she mentions it once or twice:

"In the worst cases, women who need this medication for other medical reasons suffer dire consequences."

Again, we've established that the medical requirement IS covered by the insurance.


The remainder of her diatribe is related to C-O-N-T-R-A-C-E-P-T-I-V-E-S in which she employs the generalized term dozens of times without any reference to health related concerns
http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/statement-Congress-letterhead-2nd%20hearing.pdf

Here's the link... Read it

 

[Tonington]

Yet from a medical perspective, she mentions it once or twice:

"In the worst cases, women who need this medication for other medical reasons suffer dire consequences."

Again, we've established that the medical requirement IS covered by the insurance.

No, you repeatedly ignore a good portion of what she said:

In sixty-five percent of cases, our female students were interrogated by insurance
representatives and university medical staff about why they needed these
prescriptions and whether they were lying about their symptoms. For my friend,
and 20% of women in her situation, she never got the insurance company to cover
her prescription, despite verification of her illness from her doctor. Her claim was
denied repeatedly on the assumption that she really wanted the birth control to
prevent pregnancy. She’s gay, so clearly polycystic ovarian syndrome was a much
more urgent concern than accidental pregnancy. After months of paying over $100
out of pocket, she just couldn’t afford her medication anymore and had to stop
taking it. I learned about all of this when I walked out of a test and got a message
from her that in the middle of her final exam period she’d been in the emergency
room all night in excruciating pain. She wrote, “It was so painful, I woke up
thinking I’d been shot.” Without her taking the birth control, a massive cyst the
size of a tennis ball had grown on her ovary. She had to have surgery to remove
her entire ovary. On the morning I was originally scheduled to give this testimony,
she sat in a doctor’s office. Since last year’s surgery, she’s been experiencing night
sweats, weight gain, and other symptoms of early menopause as a result of the
removal of her ovary. She’s 32 years old. As she put it: “If my body indeed does
enter early menopause, no fertility specialist in the world will be able to help me
have my own children. I will have no chance at giving my mother her desperately
desired grandbabies, simply because the insurance policy that I paid for totally
unsubsidized by my school wouldn’t cover my prescription for birth control when I
needed it.” Now, in addition to potentially facing the health complications that
come with having menopause at an early age-- increased risk of cancer, heart
disease, and osteoporosis, she may never be able to conceive a child.
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Here's the link... Read it

I gave you the link which you obviously didn't read. It's parts like the above testimony that I bolded which have lead to the inclusion of this requirement in the Act.

Further, if you read that and think she could be talking about condoms when she mentions coverage of prescriptions, and contraceptives, then I think I'm through typing posts to a wall. :roll:

 

[captain morgan]

I have stated that those situations should be covered.. But that isn't the primary issue that Flukes is addressing here is it?

 

[Tonington]

I have stated that those situations should be covered.. But that isn't the primary issue that Flukes is addressing here is it?

The primary issue she is addressing is the need for contraceptive coverage in health insurance plans, hence her testimony on that subject before Congress, relating to the new healthcare Act...

 

[Icarus27k]

For the record, here is an updated lists of advertisers that have decided to cancel sponsorship to The Rush Limbaugh Show:

“Recent comments by Rush Limbaugh do not align w/our values, so we made decision to immediately suspend all advertising on that program.” Sleep Train Mattress Centers

"Due to continued inflammatory comments– along w/valuable feedback from clients & team members– QL has suspended ads on Rush Limbaugh program.” Quicken Loans

“We have listened to our customers & have decided to cease our advertising on The Rush Limbaugh Show immediately.” Citrix

“As of today, LegalZoom has suspended all advertising on the Rush Limbaugh show.” Legal Zoom

“Recent comments by Rush Limbaugh do not align w/our values, so we made decision to immediately suspend all advertising on that program." Sleep Number

"Mr. Limbaugh’s recent comments went beyond political discourse to a personal attack and do not reflect our values as a company. As such, ProFlowers has suspended advertising on The Rush Limbaugh radio program." ProFlowers

“No one with daughters the age of Sandra Fluke, and I have two, could possibly abide the insult and abuse heaped upon this courageous and well-intentioned young lady. Mr. Limbaugh, with his highly personal attacks on Miss Fluke, overstepped any reasonable bounds of decency. Even though Mr. Limbaugh has now issued an apology, we have nonetheless decided to withdraw our advertising from his show. We hope that our action, along with the other advertisers who have already withdrawn their ads, will ultimately contribute to a more civilized public discourse.” Carbonite (this is one of the companies that Limbaugh personally promotes by reading a script on his show)

"We have monitored the unfolding events and have determined that Mr. Limbaugh’s comments are not in line with our values. As a result we have made the decision to suspend advertising on The Rush Limbaugh Radio show." AOL

"Thank you for your comments and concerns. We have decided to join other advertisers and suspend our sponsorship of The Rush Limbaugh Show." Tax Resolution (this is a company that prominently features pictures of, and an endorsement by, Limbaugh on its website)


"Looks like we were running on it, but we've told them to pull us from the show indefinitely. Thanks for letting us know!" Bonobos

"We have asked our media buying firm to correct the error by discontinuing any advertising on the Rush Limbaugh Show moving forward in keeping with our original advertising plans and strategies." Allstate

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"Sears and Kmart did not intentionally advertise on the Rush Limbaugh show. Sears Holdings has taken actions to ensure our ads do not run on this show. We appreciate our customers, fans and followers and thank you for your business." Sears

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[Cannuck]

Hmm, my car insurance premiums haven't gone up in the past three years...and I'm sure that there have been claims made by other policy holders.

My insurance plan got beefed up in January. Our dental benefits improved drastically. I assume you, Rush and the Captain had your insurance premiums go up because of that. Please forgive me.

Including testifying in support of legislation. I'm sure at one point in time people were told if they didn't want to ride at the back of the bus, that they could start their own bus company. :roll:

GOD DAMNED uppity Negroes. Why the hell should white folks have to give up their front seats and have to move all the way to the back of the bus just because some folks aren't content with their lot in life. It all started when they let the women out of the kitchen.

 

[captain morgan]

My insurance plan got beefed up in January. Our dental benefits improved drastically. I assume you, Rush and the Captain had your insurance premiums go up because of that. Please forgive me.

You're still paying premiums? I though that all you inbred hillbilly's were toothless by 10 years old.

Anywho - that's great news overall... You paying permiums for a service that you can't use will offset my costs.