Life begins...
- Thread starter LittleRunningGag
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Re: RE: Life begins...
What, you wouldn't want to celebrate the day your parents did it and conceived you?
Now there's something to remember.
LittleRunningGag said:
What, you wouldn't want to celebrate the day your parents did it and conceived you?
Now there's something to remember.
There's only so many times I want to give my dad a high-five and say "good game" or "nice work" or "great hussle"
I would say that life begins at conception.
That is the point where the little grub begins his/her nine month march toward being a separate entity. This entity is still dependent on the parents for another twenty years or so but sometimes they are able, at twenty years, to boil water, use a wash machine, maybe even make their own dinner.
That is the point where the little grub begins his/her nine month march toward being a separate entity. This entity is still dependent on the parents for another twenty years or so but sometimes they are able, at twenty years, to boil water, use a wash machine, maybe even make their own dinner.
Is the "little grub" alive or not I do not know...I think it is. But is that the beginning of Life? No, because it is not seperate. Seperate happens at birth... the begining of life.
At conception, the joining of the egg and the sperm, the resulting Zygote(little grub) is a developing human being. As long as the woman stays healthy, there is every reason to believe that without unnatural, and unforeseen events, such as accident or abortion, nine months after conception, there will be a baby born. The human zygote growing into a fetus and being born is completely natural event that has happened many billions of times, at least once for all of us. The whole event always starts with the union of an ovum and a spermatozoon, and ends with a baby born to be nurtured and raised.
About one third of all zygotes don't result in a pregnancy because they don't implant properly and the women wouldn't even know it happened. I can't imagine calling that a life.
Hey Tracy
We can't count non-pregnancies.
I'm not arguing for or against the right to have an abortion. My wife and I followed both our children from the first little kick during the pregnancies. I was in awe of the whole process, from start to finish. What other people do is their business alone.
We can't count non-pregnancies.
I'm not arguing for or against the right to have an abortion. My wife and I followed both our children from the first little kick during the pregnancies. I was in awe of the whole process, from start to finish. What other people do is their business alone.
I believe life begins around conception. I've had 3 babies, and I felt that they were all Alive long before their births. They're just as reliant on the mother after Birth, as they are before, they're just not "attached". They wiggle around, and communicate through their movements before birth, they learn to cry aloud after birth when there is no amniotic fluid in their lungs.
I'd rather celebrate the Birth day, since its the day that everyone else in the world gets to meet the new baby, and recording said date is somewhat easier than Conception Date.
I'd rather celebrate the Birth day, since its the day that everyone else in the world gets to meet the new baby, and recording said date is somewhat easier than Conception Date.
If a baby can survive out of the womb at 6 months of pregnancy then Im damn sure that its life begins way before birth, my first daughter reacted to me playing music to her, she would calm down when it was played, another daughter used to tap back at my fingers if I pressed them on her, my other daughter had hicupps and when the light was turned on used to start kicking. my son who died in me at 5 months of pregnancy, he knew Im sure, the day he died he was very distressed and when I soothed him by rubbing my tummy and telling him everything would be ok, he calmed down, to say a life begins at birth is bull, life begins way before that, I am not against abortion, I believe if something is wrong then its the womens choice, or if the person is too young, well many reasons really, as long as its done before the 3rd month, By the end of the first trimester, the baby is about three inches long and weighs about half an ounce. The eyes move closer together into their positions, and the ears also are in position. The liver is making bile, and the kidneys are secreting urine into the bladder. Even though you can't feel the baby move yet, the baby will move inside you in response to pushing on your abdomen.
Ater the 3 month it would not be right.
Ater the 3 month it would not be right.
Life starts at conception. Being a human starts sometime after that, but before birth. A couple cells lumped together is alive but not yet a being. People who think life begins when a baby is born and no longer needs it's mother to survive aren't considering the lives of parasites and viruses. They need hosts too but are very much alive.
Regardless of when life begins, the host is the boss. A woman's right to choose what she does with her body is valuable. It is up to her and her conscience to decide what is right for her and what grows inside her. (That said, as a mom, my daughter was dear to me and had an active life of her own long before she was born. My choice was to nurture that).
Regardless of when life begins, the host is the boss. A woman's right to choose what she does with her body is valuable. It is up to her and her conscience to decide what is right for her and what grows inside her. (That said, as a mom, my daughter was dear to me and had an active life of her own long before she was born. My choice was to nurture that).
RE: Life ; begins...
I think not:Jersay, an infant doesn't know what the hell is going on until many months after birth, your argument doesn't make any sense____________----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree,neither does Jersay'
The Viking Wariorrs were brave protectors of their women ,children ,the innocent and the helpless.This guy is just to bussy building an image of himself (I think it has something to do with an EGO). Mister(Jersay) ,you ain't got neither moral ,spiritual or physical qualifications to be a Viking Wariorr ,trust me ,I know what I,m talking about .Ancestors on my mother's side .....were just that ,A Viking Wariorrs.But.... from your picture, I can see your head would make a fine ornament on the bow of the Viking War Ship!
I think not:Jersay, an infant doesn't know what the hell is going on until many months after birth, your argument doesn't make any sense____________----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree,neither does Jersay'
The Viking Wariorrs were brave protectors of their women ,children ,the innocent and the helpless.This guy is just to bussy building an image of himself (I think it has something to do with an EGO). Mister(Jersay) ,you ain't got neither moral ,spiritual or physical qualifications to be a Viking Wariorr ,trust me ,I know what I,m talking about .Ancestors on my mother's side .....were just that ,A Viking Wariorrs.But.... from your picture, I can see your head would make a fine ornament on the bow of the Viking War Ship!
JonB2004
I believe that life begins at birth.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------LIFE IS____Life is not a "matter",a fetus is.You cant "kill" life though you can prevent its Being.
So,when you abort a pregnancy,kill a baby or an adult ( and there ain't no difference which one, you are doing the same thing ) , you are stoping lifes evolution, and thaaat just ain't cool , man !
I believe that life begins at birth.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------LIFE IS____Life is not a "matter",a fetus is.You cant "kill" life though you can prevent its Being.
So,when you abort a pregnancy,kill a baby or an adult ( and there ain't no difference which one, you are doing the same thing ) , you are stoping lifes evolution, and thaaat just ain't cool , man !
Re: RE: Life begins...
"Not implanting properly" is just one of the risks. Remember, it started with about a quarter of a million sperm, and all but one of them is dead by this time. The properly implanted zygote is a living, growing, little human. It can't be anything else.
tracy said:
"Not implanting properly" is just one of the risks. Remember, it started with about a quarter of a million sperm, and all but one of them is dead by this time. The properly implanted zygote is a living, growing, little human. It can't be anything else.
Re: RE: Life begins...
Then a human doesn't begin at conception, it begins at implantation? By that standard, drugs like Plan B are not abortifacients like many pro-life groups claim.
I think this notion is as arbitrary as any other. Why does implantation make it a human? The zygote itself is unchanged.
#juan said:
Then a human doesn't begin at conception, it begins at implantation? By that standard, drugs like Plan B are not abortifacients like many pro-life groups claim.
I think this notion is as arbitrary as any other. Why does implantation make it a human? The zygote itself is unchanged.
Re: RE: Life begins...
I didn't mean to imply that implantation was anything but another step on the journey. Without implantation the zygote would die just like the unused sperm, and obviously, without conception there would be no zygote.
tracy said:
I didn't mean to imply that implantation was anything but another step on the journey. Without implantation the zygote would die just like the unused sperm, and obviously, without conception there would be no zygote.