Liberals true faced revealed with comments

[Jersay]

If it is the late 80s fine, but I will get suspicious if you say the 90s.

 

[cyberclark]

Looking close at the political spectrum I and compare them to a space of time, 10 years ago:

NDP - Small C conservative - centre politic - Liberal
Liberals - Big C Conservative - More than slight right center
Conservative- Corporate Despots marching in Jack boots. ExtremeR

As far as the Gomeray inquiry goes, this crew are the ones who blew the whisle.

Goodale hasle on leaks - Politcial crap laid on by the NDP

I say forget about this stuff; look to the future. The conservatives plan on turning all your health care over to private insurance companies to operate. This is going to cost each and every person 5000.00 a year before the next term of Government is out!

Taking his que from Klein in Alberta whom Harper sees as a winner when no one else does, plans on following his act.

Putting conservatives into office now just plainly scares the crap out of me! They are so dam extreme!

John Clark

 

[cyberclark]

Looking close at the political spectrum I compare them to a space of time, 10 years ago:

NDP - Small C conservative - centre politic - Liberal
Liberals - Big C Conservative - More than slight right center
Conservative- Corporate Despots marching in Jack boots. ExtremeR

As far as the Gomeray inquiry goes, this crew are the ones who blew the whisle.

Goodale hasle on leaks - Politcial crap laid on by the NDP

I say forget about this stuff; look to the future. The conservatives plan on turning all your health care over to private insurance companies to operate. This is going to cost each and every person 5000.00 a year before the next term of Government is out!

Taking his que from Klein in Alberta whom Harper sees as a winner when no one else does, plans on following his act.

Putting conservatives into office now just plainly scares the crap out of me! They are so dam extreme!

John Clark

 

[bluealberta]

Looking close at the political spectrum I compare them to a space of time, 10 years ago:

NDP - Small C conservative - centre politic - Liberal
Liberals - Big C Conservative - More than slight right center
Conservative- Corporate Despots marching in Jack boots. ExtremeR

As far as the Gomeray inquiry goes, this crew are the ones who blew the whisle.

Goodale hasle on leaks - Politcial crap laid on by the NDP

I say forget about this stuff; look to the future. The conservatives plan on turning all your health care over to private insurance companies to operate. This is going to cost each and every person 5000.00 a year before the next term of Government is out!

Taking his que from Klein in Alberta whom Harper sees as a winner when no one else does, plans on following his act.

Putting conservatives into office now just plainly scares the crap out of me! They are so dam extreme!

John Clark

Crap. This is the same Klein in Alberta who, through innovation has reduced wait times on joint replacement surgeries by a ton. And yes, this uses private care, but the point is, that the lines have been shortened, from 47 weeks to 4.7 weeks. Sorry if that offends the left, but I bet the ones getting their surgeries done so quick,AT NO COST, don't really give a rats ass. So you want to bash Klein, go ahead, but as my mom-in-law, who is getting replacement knee surgery next month says, "If the pain stops quicker and costs me nothing, why would I care?" Indeed, why would anyone care. And my mom-in law could not be classified as rich by anyones standards. Her and dad-in-law are both retired, on fixed pension incomes, no investments, etc.

 

[FiveParadox]

bluealberta, I am not opposed to some kind of "partnership" between the public and private health care services, so long as the private services do not descriminate on the basis of financial situations, and that the Government covers any additional costs that using private care, over public care, would incur on the citizen.

So long as the Canada Health Act is protected, and Canadians don't see a directly increased cost, then I would be in favour of such a partnership in the interest of reducing wait times.

 

[Colpy]

True you have a good point. But that does defeat the point that both the Liberals and the Conservatives have bigots, and racists or whatever you would like to call these people within their ranks.

You could make the claim with the former GG running for the NDP that he is against same-sex, but his last comments were in the 1960s, 70s.

But, it does seem that recently the ugly head of whatever you like to calls these attacks, is from the Liberal point of view. I watched Global National today, and they had nothing on it.

Shreyer's comments recently quoted on gays and lesbians were made in 1985.

 

[Hank C]

Crap. This is the same Klein in Alberta who, through innovation has reduced wait times on joint replacement surgeries by a ton. And yes, this uses private care, but the point is, that the lines have been shortened, from 47 weeks to 4.7 weeks. Sorry if that offends the left, but I bet the ones getting their surgeries done so quick,AT NO COST, don't really give a rats ass. So you want to bash Klein, go ahead, but as my mom-in-law, who is getting replacement knee surgery next month says, "If the pain stops quicker and costs me nothing, why would I care?" Indeed, why would anyone care. And my mom-in law could not be classified as rich by anyones standards. Her and dad-in-law are both retired, on fixed pension incomes, no investments, etc.

yep Alberta has led the way here...although I don't think Klien has anything to do with thinking up the plan...although he is willing to allocate money to fund such research...I guess he deserves a pat on the back.... but in provincialy I like the Alberta Alliance.

 

[bluealberta]

Re: RE: Liberals true faced revealed with comments

bluealberta, I am not opposed to some kind of "partnership" between the public and private health care services, so long as the private services do not descriminate on the basis of financial situations, and that the Government covers any additional costs that using private care, over public care, would incur on the citizen.

So long as the Canada Health Act is protected, and Canadians don't see a directly increased cost, then I would be in favour of such a partnership in the interest of reducing wait times.

Then you appear to be one of the more logical members of the left. However, the leader of the party I believe you support is on record as wanting to stop private health care. Does this mean he wants to ban family doctors? Dentists? Physiotherapists? Optomotrists? All these are private health care providers in their own fields. Why would they be treated differently? Every clinic I know of is privately operated by a group of doctors who are paid through the public system, so to pretend it does not happen now is rather bogus, as is the Layton promise to stop private health care.

 

[bluealberta]

Crap. This is the same Klein in Alberta who, through innovation has reduced wait times on joint replacement surgeries by a ton. And yes, this uses private care, but the point is, that the lines have been shortened, from 47 weeks to 4.7 weeks. Sorry if that offends the left, but I bet the ones getting their surgeries done so quick,AT NO COST, don't really give a rats ass. So you want to bash Klein, go ahead, but as my mom-in-law, who is getting replacement knee surgery next month says, "If the pain stops quicker and costs me nothing, why would I care?" Indeed, why would anyone care. And my mom-in law could not be classified as rich by anyones standards. Her and dad-in-law are both retired, on fixed pension incomes, no investments, etc.

yep Alberta has led the way here...although I don't think Klien has anything to do with thinking up the plan...although he is willing to allocate money to fund such research...I guess he deserves a pat on the back.... but in provincialy I like the Alberta Alliance.

Hank, unless the conservative get someone fiscally conservative to replace Klein, I may be right behind you, unless the Separatis Party of Alberta really takes off, pending this election result.

The point about the joint surgery thing is this. For how many years now has the left villified Alberta as the province who was going to destroy health care in Canada? Yet every time something comes up that is good, it seems to come from Alberta, yet does not make the Mainstream Media...........again. Bias, do you think??

 

[Hank C]

The point about the joint surgery thing is this. For how many years now has the left villified Alberta as the province who was going to destroy health care in Canada? Yet every time something comes up that is good, it seems to come from Alberta, yet does not make the Mainstream Media...........again. Bias, do you think??

hah...I was thinkin the same thing...if this came out of some welfare province like Manitoba it would of made front page news...but who cares, I kinda like being villified.

 

[bluealberta]

The point about the joint surgery thing is this. For how many years now has the left villified Alberta as the province who was going to destroy health care in Canada? Yet every time something comes up that is good, it seems to come from Alberta, yet does not make the Mainstream Media...........again. Bias, do you think??

hah...I was thinkin the same thing...if this came out of some welfare province like Manitoba it would of made front page news...but who cares, I kinda like being villified.

Yeah, but then people outside Alberta always call us arrogant, or something equally worse. Of course, under the LIberal Health Care "plan" these same people could come to Alberta for surgery that their own province cannot do. Wonder how their values hold up then, criticize Alberta, but come here for surgery not available elsewhere. Methinks they would not care too much. You? :wink: