Liberals Offend Military
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Re: Respect for the Armed Forces
Overall, the ad was pretty funny. Let's see, in my lifetime, which party was in power when the soldiers WERE called out into the streets?
FiveParadox said:
Overall, the ad was pretty funny. Let's see, in my lifetime, which party was in power when the soldiers WERE called out into the streets?
Well I saw it when it happened
and Trudeau was right. It is unfortunate that subsequent governments let the brave bastard that strangled Pierre Laport while he was tied up back into the country, where he still works for Bouchard. He should have been shot.
and Trudeau was right. It is unfortunate that subsequent governments let the brave bastard that strangled Pierre Laport while he was tied up back into the country, where he still works for Bouchard. He should have been shot.
This is an insult to the military...Martin and his crew of idiots will do and say anything to win this election. I agree with the above statement that Martin is an asshole....bless the troops who have fought and died for Canada, the veterans, and all of the men and women currently serving. If I had a chance I would spit in Paul Martins face!!
My Opinion on the Matter
Might be time for some of us to step out for some hot chocolate or something, eh? Cool off a bit? lol, I can understand the sentiment coming from both corners of this debate, though.
I would re-iterate, though, that I do not believe that this advertisement was intended to insult the Canadian Armed Forces. In my opinion, the ad was aimed explicitly at the Conservative Party of Canada and, perhaps even more accurately, the Honourable Leader of the Opposition.
Just to be clear; while I am a supporter of the Liberal Party of Canada, I would also consider myself to be a steadfast supporter of the Canadian Armed Forces, notwithstanding the possible "blunder" as which the circulation of this ad might have been construed.
Might be time for some of us to step out for some hot chocolate or something, eh? Cool off a bit? lol, I can understand the sentiment coming from both corners of this debate, though.
I would re-iterate, though, that I do not believe that this advertisement was intended to insult the Canadian Armed Forces. In my opinion, the ad was aimed explicitly at the Conservative Party of Canada and, perhaps even more accurately, the Honourable Leader of the Opposition.
Just to be clear; while I am a supporter of the Liberal Party of Canada, I would also consider myself to be a steadfast supporter of the Canadian Armed Forces, notwithstanding the possible "blunder" as which the circulation of this ad might have been construed.
No, the ad was only intended to insult the Conservatives. But what's a little collateral damage, eh?
Those nasty Conservatives though! Imagine, suggesting that soldiers be stationed closer to major centres so they could be available for disaster support (SARS, 9/11, the Ice storm anyone) but only the Liberals know they really mean to impose martial law and threaten all our rights.
I suppose being able to twist reality like this is how Martin is able to call the Cretien government "a disgraceful period" and then he runs his campaign on the record of that "disgraceful period".
I guess the Liberals really know disgraceful!
Those nasty Conservatives though! Imagine, suggesting that soldiers be stationed closer to major centres so they could be available for disaster support (SARS, 9/11, the Ice storm anyone) but only the Liberals know they really mean to impose martial law and threaten all our rights.
I suppose being able to twist reality like this is how Martin is able to call the Cretien government "a disgraceful period" and then he runs his campaign on the record of that "disgraceful period".
I guess the Liberals really know disgraceful!
geez what in the world were the Liberals thinking.....the Tory plan was clearly to station troops close to urban centers so they could assist in disasters. When you think about earthquakes in Vancouver and BC, Tornadoes in Alberta, and hurricanes in Atlantic Canada.....Harpers plan actually has some sense to it.
Ha, good way to put it. Again I reiterate the Liberals have ticked me way off on this one...not to mention countless Canadians. I would like to see the opposition parties force the Liberals appologize to our troops for this bonehead blunder of thiers.
I will say this much for the Liberals - I don't think that most Liberals dislike the military, or are against the military. The military ad is due to one, or both, of two things...
1) Horrendous oversight. In attacking Stephen Harper, they never botherred to stop to think about who they might inadvertently strike along with him in that attack. This is stupid at best, and gross negligence at worst.
2) Within the minds of some on the far left, the military is inherently evil. I've read enough anti-Iraq war arguments to know this to be a fact. It could be - I don't know, but it could conceivably be - that the creators of this ad really do dislike the military. *Shrug*. If so, this ad is absolutely despicable in the strongest sense of the term
I have to say... I am amazed by Liberal supporters on this board who are so blinded by their political alliegances as to not rightly critisize this attack ad. At best, this ad was stupid. At worst, it was absolutely despicable. It was probably inbetween - it was probably gross negligence.
IF Paul Martin apologizes to the Canadian military, then so be it. If he doesn't, him and his party deserves every last criticism on the matter, and electoral self-destruction.
This is the most vicious, totally out of context, and incendiary political attack ad that I've ever seen. Voting for the Liberals in this election has become completely unconscienable, in my view. If you care about the Canadian military (who have been MASSIVELY hurt by this ad - I've read numerous qoutes from them on the sites of news sources like CBC, and CTV), then I would implore you to not vote Liberal.
1) Horrendous oversight. In attacking Stephen Harper, they never botherred to stop to think about who they might inadvertently strike along with him in that attack. This is stupid at best, and gross negligence at worst.
2) Within the minds of some on the far left, the military is inherently evil. I've read enough anti-Iraq war arguments to know this to be a fact. It could be - I don't know, but it could conceivably be - that the creators of this ad really do dislike the military. *Shrug*. If so, this ad is absolutely despicable in the strongest sense of the term
I have to say... I am amazed by Liberal supporters on this board who are so blinded by their political alliegances as to not rightly critisize this attack ad. At best, this ad was stupid. At worst, it was absolutely despicable. It was probably inbetween - it was probably gross negligence.
IF Paul Martin apologizes to the Canadian military, then so be it. If he doesn't, him and his party deserves every last criticism on the matter, and electoral self-destruction.
This is the most vicious, totally out of context, and incendiary political attack ad that I've ever seen. Voting for the Liberals in this election has become completely unconscienable, in my view. If you care about the Canadian military (who have been MASSIVELY hurt by this ad - I've read numerous qoutes from them on the sites of news sources like CBC, and CTV), then I would implore you to not vote Liberal.
Citizen said:
My word... do you people honestly not see the difference? 8O It's one thing to target politicians of opposition parties... it's another thing to clearly imply that our own military men and women can't be trusted with guns in our cities!
Do you people care about the morale, and sentiments, of our men and women in uniform at all?
Why should Harper apologize in any event? Those sitting MPs may very well be corrupt!
May be corrupt; just as the Hon. Stephen Harper may choose to misappropriate the Canadian Armed Forces.
As for currupt Members of Parliament, the Gomery Commission exonerated the present Government. Please see Gomery's first report.
As for currupt Members of Parliament, the Gomery Commission exonerated the present Government. Please see Gomery's first report.
FiveParadox - With all due respect, are you paranoid beyond belief?
Do you, or do you not, believe that Stephen Harper would use the Canadian military against Canadian citizens? Simple yes, or no, FiveParadox.
And no, the Gomery Commission did not exonerate the present Government. It exonarated Paul Martin, who's not the entire liberal government, FiveParadox. What it said about the Liberal party as a whole was very damning, FiveParadox.
Do you, or do you not, believe that Stephen Harper would use the Canadian military against Canadian citizens? Simple yes, or no, FiveParadox.
And no, the Gomery Commission did not exonerate the present Government. It exonarated Paul Martin, who's not the entire liberal government, FiveParadox. What it said about the Liberal party as a whole was very damning, FiveParadox.
#juan said:
No, this topic is not nonsense.
Read this, and learn: http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/CanadaVotes/2005/12/04/pf-1337392.html
The military is upset about this, and I don't blame them. You don't speak for the military as a whole, sir.
The Liberals should be ashamed of themselves!
As, too, should the Conservative Party of Canada.
The Conservative candidate for the Southern Interior riding of British Columbia, Derek Zeisman, has been charged with smuggling charges, and could be thrown into jail after his trial next month.
The Conservative Party says that it has no intention of removing his nomination, and is going to continue to support him; it would seem that the Tories are already faltering in their effort to clean up the Government.
The Conservative candidate for the Southern Interior riding of British Columbia, Derek Zeisman, has been charged with smuggling charges, and could be thrown into jail after his trial next month.
The Conservative Party says that it has no intention of removing his nomination, and is going to continue to support him; it would seem that the Tories are already faltering in their effort to clean up the Government.