Liberals backstab our military......again.

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http://www.cds.forces.gc.ca/pubs/bio_e.asp

"Born in Newfoundland and Labrador, General Rick Hillier joined the Canadian Forces as soon as he could. Having enrolled in 1973, he graduated from Memorial University of Newfoundland in 1975 with a Bachelor of Science Degree. After completing his armour officer classification training, he joined his first regiment, the 8th Canadian Hussars (Princess Louise's) in Petawawa, Ontario. Subsequently, he served with, and later commanded, the Royal Canadian Dragoons in Canada and Germany.

Throughout his career, General Hillier has had the privilege and pleasure of commanding troops from the platoon to multi-national formation level within Canada, Europe, Asia and the United States. He has worked as a staff officer in several headquarters, first at the Army level in Montreal and later at the strategic level in Ottawa.

In 1998 General Hillier was appointed as the first Canadian Deputy Commanding General of III Corps, US Army in Fort Hood, Texas. In 2000 he took command of NATO's Stabilization Force's (SFOR) Multinational Division (Southwest) in Bosnia-Herzegovina.

In May 2003 General Hillier was appointed as Commander of the Army and subsequently, in October 2003, he was selected as the Commander of the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Kabul, Afghanistan.

General Hillier was promoted to his present rank and assumed duties as the Chief of the Defence Staff on 4 February 2005.

General Hillier and his wife have two sons, a daughter-in-law, and a new grandson. General Hillier enjoys most recreational pursuits but, in particular, runs slowly, plays hockey poorly and golfs not well at all. "


He has my support.
 

Colpy

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Reverend Blair said:
Nah, he just wants to put it in people's heads that it's Martin's fault. Like I said before, if Martin didn't put this on hold, the Harperites would be screaming that the tendering process was skipped.

It's playing cheap political games with our military.

It is Martin's fault.

The Liberals were not afraid of Harper's criticism, they knew none would be forthcoming. They are afraid of driving the peace-nick loonie left into the arms of the NDP so hard that they can't be brought back to the Liberal fold with fear-mongering.

The simple fact is, if the Liberals had not so undercut the military, this special buying process would NOT be necessary.
 

Colpy

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Jay, Hillier completely ignores the political nuance that leads to terrorism and uses the same sabre-rattling rhetoric as George Bush. He needs to kept on a leash about 3 inches long, or he'll bite the wrong person.

He was a poor choice for the position he was given, and does not seem capable of understanding that killing people has to be a last resort because doing so has repercussions that make people like bin Laden stronger, not weaker.

Political nuance does not lead to terrorism. (my God, that's laughable).

In a free society, the military ALWAYS needs to be kept on a short leash.

The use of the military is a last resort, but that is not their concern. When called upon to act, General Hillier is a fine example of the kind of man who gets the job done.

The best evidence of this is his reported popularity among the soldiers themselves.

Dead Islamists don't fly planes into office towers.
 

Jay

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It looks like he has some good plans for the forces.
 

Summer

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Colpy said:
Dead Islamists don't fly planes into office towers.

No, but their surviving and now very pissed-off relatives could certainly do so. Or do you advocate just wiping every single Islamic soul off the face of the planet at once, just in case?
 

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I think you hit the nail on the head there summer :? Typical answer for neocons, just kill people, its the easy way out. Still tho you gotta wonder how they tickety boo this with "tho shall not kill"
 

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Summer said:
Oh, didn't you know that "thou shalt not kill" only applies to people God likes? It's all right there in the fine print footnotes in the King Georgie Duhbya Bible. /sarcasm

Feh.

What I find funnier is that the Neo-Cons keeps screaming that Islam is evil especially when compared to christanity when the followers of both religions are worshipping the same god. I mean the same angel that spoke to the sheperds in the fields where they lay as was the same one to dictate the Quran(sp?) to Mohommad.
 

Jay

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I don't have a military. I can't be trusted with one because I would no doubt take over some nice, tropical Island and retire happy and early. I would make people bring me drinks and things like that.
 

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RE: Liberals backstab our

i'd like everyone to know the purpose of the our military is mainly for peacekeeping. we are the only country to have gone into every UN peacekeeping mission with men. one of the few country's that have never decalred war on another (not to say we have never fought but to say we never declared the war) and this is why the terrorists don't scream down with canada they scream down with america.

We have little use for an army to be used to defend and there is no reason we should be attacking anybody so we should keep our army as it's current usage and have it as a peacekeeping army. saftey of our troops should also be a priority.

we only need to change our aircraft if it is dangerous because a hercules is not exactly about to be shot at if it is bringing aid.
 

Jay

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"We have long said that when Great Britain is at war, we are at war; to-day we realize that Great Britain is at war and that Canada is at war also - House of Commons, Del:ates Aug 9 1914"

Wilfrid Laurier
 

Colpy

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Summer said:
Colpy said:
Dead Islamists don't fly planes into office towers.

No, but their surviving and now very pissed-off relatives could certainly do so. Or do you advocate just wiping every single Islamic soul off the face of the planet at once, just in case?

I said "Islamist", I did not say "Islamic".

Islamist are radical fundamentalists who want to turn the world into a Muslim theocracy. Oh, the "moderate" Islamists want to recreate the Muslim world as it was in its heyday.....a territorial ambition that includes Spain.

Islamics are simply people that follow the teachings of Mohammed.
 

Colpy

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meitme said:
i'd like everyone to know the purpose of the our military is mainly for peacekeeping. we are the only country to have gone into every UN peacekeeping mission with men. one of the few country's that have never decalred war on another (not to say we have never fought but to say we never declared the war) and this is why the terrorists don't scream down with canada they scream down with america.

We have little use for an army to be used to defend and there is no reason we should be attacking anybody so we should keep our army as it's current usage and have it as a peacekeeping army. saftey of our troops should also be a priority.

we only need to change our aircraft if it is dangerous because a hercules is not exactly about to be shot at if it is bringing aid.

You are a perfect example of the kind of voter Martin is trying to keep in the fold.

Every single thing you said in this post is incorrect.

We declared war on Germany in 1939.

We are currently 34th or so in the list of UN peacekeepers, somewhere behind Pakistan and Bangladesh. We simply don't have their resourses, believe it or not.

Osama, in one of his lovely addresses to his followers, identified Canada as among the top 5 targets of his group of loonies.

Militaries are for projecting power. You can't always defend from within. AND the safety of our troops depends on giving them good equipment. When we tried to help out in Indonesia a few years ago, our Hercules could not even get our troops to the island. They are 40 plus years old.
 

Summer

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Colpy said:
Summer said:
Colpy said:
Dead Islamists don't fly planes into office towers.

No, but their surviving and now very pissed-off relatives could certainly do so. Or do you advocate just wiping every single Islamic soul off the face of the planet at once, just in case?

I said "Islamist", I did not say "Islamic".

Islamist are radical fundamentalists who want to turn the world into a Muslim theocracy. Oh, the "moderate" Islamists want to recreate the Muslim world as it was in its heyday.....a territorial ambition that includes Spain.

Islamics are simply people that follow the teachings of Mohammed.

Colpy, I'm not an idiot and the difference between Islamists and Islamics is not lost on me. However, did you ever stop to wonder exactly what it is that pushes some Islamic individuals into the waiting arms of Islamist terrorist philosophy and spurs them to attack Westerners? Hint: not all of the current crop of terrorists were born into the Islamist way of life and thinking. Some were pushed by anger at having their friends, their families and their livelihoods taken from them by Westerners... a perception which, whether correct or incorrect, is undeniably powerful.

GWB and the current war in Iraq have been fantastic recruiting tools for al-Qaeda, I'm sure.
 

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Jay said:
It is thou shall not murder....

Sorry, it can't be "thou shall not murder", because the GODDAM BIBLE WASN'T WRITTEN IN ENGLISH.

Despite what so many literalists want to believe. Every bible printed in English is SOME PERSON'S VERSION OF WHAT THE ORIGINAL SAYS.