Liberals and NDP In Bed with the Bloc

Reverend Blair

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RE: Liberals and NDP In B

Do you think they keep saying that they don't have a hidden agenda because they've done such a poor job hiding it that everybody knows about it? ;-)
 

bluealberta

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Vanni Fucci said:
I think not said:
Sounds like Blue got some Albertan support. :wink: :p

Yeah...lucky us... :p

Whats the matter boys, don't like the odds now? Great to have another voice of common sense to offset some of the nonsense being posted here. ITN, you would have been a great Albertan, you should come here some time, its a GREAT place! :wink:
 

bluealberta

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Reverend Blair said:
The conbservatives have a clean slate.

They don't even have a clean slate as the CPC. They let Cargill with contempt of parliament. They tried to buy off Chuck Cadman. They are now involved in Grewalgate. Of course Grewal has been in trouble before. Demanding a deposit from constituents before he'd do his job. Lying about his dealings in Liberia. Harper stood by Gurmant through that display of corruption.

Now if the CPC is managing to be corrupt without even gaining power, what would they be like if they were in charge? It boggles the mind.

So you claim the conservatives tried to buy Cadman, yet then you claim that the Liberals did not try to buy the Grewals, did not buy Barbie Belinda or Scotty boy Brison, and did not buy the entire NDP party? Down the rabbit hole, Alice, and meet the Rev and Vanni :roll:
 

bluealberta

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Re: RE: Liberals and NDP In B

Reverend Blair said:
Do you think they keep saying that they don't have a hidden agenda because they've done such a poor job hiding it that everybody knows about it? ;-)

Which, by definition, would mean it is not hidden. Thank you again, twice now today you have confirmed my points. I think that you may be ready to consider another point of view within, oh, say, 20 -30 years if we keep working on you.

Of course there is not hidden agenda as we all know.
 

Vanni Fucci

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Re: RE: Liberals and NDP In B

Reverend Blair said:
Do you think they keep saying that they don't have a hidden agenda because they've done such a poor job hiding it that everybody knows about it? ;-)

I do think that Rev...and the increased references to Liberal and NDP hidden agendas by Conservatives suggests that they are attempting to marginalize the impact of their own agenda...

ie. if everyone has a hidden agenda, then they don't look so nefarious...
 

The Philosopher

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Reverend Blair said:
He was a policy advisor in the Mulroney government...a backroom boy in a government filled with corruption and scandal. His title and his immediate boss don't matter. The question was whether was a connection between the Mulroney government and the present-day incarnation of Conservative corruption. There is.

Do you actually believe this shit you're pulling out of your ass?

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1082865895895_64?s_name=&no_ads=

Right there it states that Harper and Mulroney are ideological opposites. On top of that it tells us Harper was a policy advisor for Manning.

http://www.macleans.ca/topstories/politics/article.jsp?content=20050509_105134_105134

Right there it tells us his connection to the Conservatives and how he was upset with it. He has written quite a few articles criticizing the polcies of both Mulroney AND Trudeau.

I have sources, it seems all you have is BS.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Liberals and NDP In B

He didn't get mad at Mulroney until poor widdle Alberta didn't get its way. You are still ignoring what him and Mulroney have been up to lately, or was Harper lying when he said that Mulroney was giving him advice at the convention?
 

bluealberta

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Re: RE: Liberals and NDP In B

Reverend Blair said:
He didn't get mad at Mulroney until poor widdle Alberta didn't get its way. You are still ignoring what him and Mulroney have been up to lately, or was Harper lying when he said that Mulroney was giving him advice at the convention?

I guess that revisionist history lesson is taking a beating tonight. And poor widdle Alberta doesn't need anything from you. So what if two politicians on the right side of center talk? Is that a crime? Just because Martin and Chretien hate each other does this mean Harper and Mulroney should not talk? You are not making a lot of sense on that one.
 

bluealberta

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Re: RE: Liberals and NDP In B

Vanni Fucci said:
Reverend Blair said:
Do you think they keep saying that they don't have a hidden agenda because they've done such a poor job hiding it that everybody knows about it? ;-)

I do think that Rev...and the increased references to Liberal and NDP hidden agendas by Conservatives suggests that they are attempting to marginalize the impact of their own agenda...

ie. if everyone has a hidden agenda, then they don't look so nefarious...

Well, everyone but the conservatives, anyway...................
 

Reverend Blair

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o what if two politicians on the right side of center talk? Is that a crime? Just because Martin and Chretien hate each other does this mean Harper and Mulroney should not talk? You are not making a lot of sense on that one.

It's not a matter of talking, Blue. When somebody is referred to as an advisor in the political sense, it means they are helping to set policy and strategy.

Nothing I've said is revisionist history either. Harper worked in the Mulroney government (BTW, a parlimentary secretary is not just part of the steno pool). Now Mulroney has been, according to Harper, working to get the Harperites in as government.
 

bluealberta

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Reverend Blair said:
o what if two politicians on the right side of center talk? Is that a crime? Just because Martin and Chretien hate each other does this mean Harper and Mulroney should not talk? You are not making a lot of sense on that one.

It's not a matter of talking, Blue. When somebody is referred to as an advisor in the political sense, it means they are helping to set policy and strategy.

Nothing I've said is revisionist history either. Harper worked in the Mulroney government (BTW, a parlimentary secretary is not just part of the steno pool). Now Mulroney has been, according to Harper, working to get the Harperites in as government.[/quote]

Maybe because he is a conservative and can see like the rest of us the damage the liberals are doing to the country internally and how the liberals are making a joke of Canada on the international stage? I am shocked that a conservative would help another conservative party. What next? Chretien and Martin talking? Naw, never happen, hell ain't that cold yet. We'll just have to settle for Pretty Paul and Smiling Jack instead. :roll:
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Liberals and NDP In B

Yeah, whatever, Blue. Ignoring corruption when it's attached to a big chin or a really bad haircut hardly seems like a good idea to me.
 

bluealberta

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Re: RE: Liberals and NDP In B

Reverend Blair said:
Yeah, whatever, Blue. Ignoring corruption when it's attached to a big chin or a really bad haircut hardly seems like a good idea to me.

Oh come on now, you don't want me to describe Smilin Jack, da Boss Chretien, or Mr. Dithers do you? Some things just go without saying. Chretien and Martin are the masters of corruption, not Mulroney. That was proven on an earlier post when most of the so-called scandals were dismissed due to lack of evidence or no basis for the charges. You were wrong then, you are still wrong. The Libs under da Boss and Big Paully are the godfathers of sleaze and corruption.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Liberals and NDP In B

Nevermind lower in the polls than the Liberals, nationally they are lower than the Alliance alone was the last time they were a party. I'm sure that Mulroney showing up at events to be praised by Harper has played a role in that.