From Borque.org
Tuesday, Dec 2
EXCLUSIVE: IGGY RETHINKS COALITION - CRACK IN THE COALITION
Bourque HotNews
Tuesday, Dec 2
EXCLUSIVE: IGGY RETHINKS COALITION - CRACK IN THE COALITION
Bourque HotNews
And YES I know that in theory we in Canada do not vote for a Party or a Leader, but only
for an MP....and supposedly the MP's decide who in their Party will be the next PM even
though much more advertising is done for the (not?) Leader's of the Parties than for any
local MP....and that if an MP votes against his/her Party, they can find themselves out on
their ear...so an MP really just tows the Party line and isn't really there to represent their
constituents (Why would a "Ralph Goodale" try to sell the Green Shift to Saskatchewan
before the last Election if he was really representing his constituents interests). Our system
in Canada is very dysfunctional at best.
I'm just pulling this out'a my backside here and I'm hoping someone can clean this
thought up into a workable idea...but how about an election kind of like a curling
Bonspiel????
If you have 5 parties running, you'll have four elections with an elimination of the
party with the lowest # of votes each time....you'll end up with the whole
population voting eventually (in this round-robin sort'a way) in the last vote for
an official opposition and a governing party.
That would be interesting. The Boyz in Vegas might even take interest and start
offering odds.
You'd start with a multi-party vote & boil it down to a two party vote...kind'a
like a Democratic version of musical-chairs. I know this is rough, but now it's
out there to be cleaned up or ripped apart. Have fun.
Tough question. The first post the post thing is fine if we only had two parties, which we don't.
The Alternate Vote system seems like a good (but a bit boring) idea. Proportional Representation
would give a more accurate picture of what the Country as a whole actually wants, but it might
produce even uglier minority/coalition situations than we already have....
The closest to my idea is the French double ballot system, but I picture it set up more like a
Bonspeil in Curling. I first mentioned this on the Thread: http://forums.canadiancontent.net/canadian-politics/79460-multi-party-vs-2-party.html#post1012811
I'm not claiming it'll be cheap or easy...but it'll boil down to a government that the
people have put in place, through an elimination process, that has the power to
do what it needs to, unlike what we're currently seeing. This system would be fun too.
The divine-right-to-govern party
Lorne Gunter, National Post Published: Wednesday, December 10, 2008
When Dominic LeBlanc withdrew from the Liberal leadership race on Monday, he said it had been a privilege "running for the leadership of the greatest democratic institution in the Western world." In keeping with the democratic principles he so admires, he then called on his party to short-circuit its own constitutional leadership selection process and anoint Michael Ignatieff forthwith.
When asked by reporters how he could reconcile his professed love of the democratic process with his desire to see Mr. Ignatieff in the leader's office (and, presumably himself in a prominent front-bench role) without a vote by more than the 77 Liberal MPs and 58 Liberal senators, Mr. Le-Blanc offered the heartfelt response of all great defenders of democracy: "The urgency of the situation requires extraordinary measures."
Sorry? Is our country being invaded? The urgency of just what situation requires the suspension of rank-and-file Liberals' right to choose their party's boss?
Oh, right, I forgot: the urgent need to replace the Conservatives as government without an election; another time-honoured democratic tradition.
After Mr. Ignatieff was safely in office, then the Liberals should, according to Mr. LeBlanc, "create a mechanism for widespread democratic consultation" with the membership. You know, um, after the democratic process has been rendered redundant.
Wow, I'm sure grateful there are people with a deep understanding of democracy, such as Dominic Le-Blanc, standing up in Parliament for our rights and institutions.
In short, Mr. LeBlanc's commitment to democracy extends only so far as it doesn't interfere with his preferred candidate's ascension to the Liberal throne or the glorious restoration of the Liberal party to power in Ottawa.
Monday evening, the Liberal party executive backed away from Mr. Ignatieff's preference to have the party's next leader chosen this week by the 135-member caucus, alone. Instead, they postponed the selection until next week and expanded the voters' list to include riding presidents, failed candidates from October's election and presidents from the party's women's, youth, aboriginal and seniors' clubs, some 800 in all.
In other words, instead of just having the party's college of cardinals choose the next Liberal Pope this week, the party would open up the process to the Canadian equivalent of super-delegates -- voters who owe their access to a ballot to their membership in the party's governing elite -- and hold off Mr. Ignatieff's coronation until next week.
Hillary Clinton would love these guys. Had her Democrats had the same abiding faith in democracy, she could have convinced them to ignore the results of the primaries and let super-delegates alone select her as their nominee.
Of course, all this was pre-empted Tuesday when Mr. Ignatieff's lone remaining rival, Bob Rae, backed out of the race rather than almost certainly lose the truncated, ex-officio-controlled version proposed by the hierarchy of "the greatest democratic institution in the Western world."
So why were Mr. Ignatieff's supporters adamant that he had to be installed before Christmas? And why were Mr. Rae's people only asking for a postponement until the middle of next month? The Rae camp was every bit as adamant as the Igantieff camp that a new leader had to be in place before Parliament reconvenes in late January.
Why the haste? Because the Liberals have never quite given up on the notion they are Canada's Divine Right to Govern party.
Most parties with just half as many votes as a government wouldn't dream of trying to unseat it. Nor would they consider attempting to form government less than two months after receiving the lowest vote share in their history, without first going through another general election.
But most parties aren't, in their own delusional estimation, "the greatest democratic institution in the Western world."
Recapturing power now would do nothing to solve the Liberals' core problems in fundraising, organizing and policy. Indeed, it might make their fundamental flaws worse by postponing their resolution.
But none of that matters as much to Canada's Liberals as being back in power, back in control of public spending and patronage.
Thus the man they last week proposed to foist on Canada as an unelected prime minister -- Stephane Dion -- they have this week tossed over the rail in favour of foisting Michael Igantieff on their membership.
Such are the heavy obligations that come with being such a magnificent democratic institution.
Just like Dion did?Eggy will push Harper out of office as well as the leader of the Conservatives.....
Just like Dion did?