You can keep all your Liberal candidates. And shove them in a locker or someplace that doesn't shine.
I will take Layton any day.
I will take Layton any day.
Liberal Leadership Race - Who do we favour?
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#juan said:
Ok, well lets see...he has lived in the States for the past twenty years is correct. However, as a Harvard professor, he still did lectures in Western Canada and many of his books were based on Canada. So HOW can he be a Canadian? 1. He is a citizen 2. He recieved a really good job at Harvard...that does not mean he doesnt like Canada, nor does it mean that he doesnt know anything about Canada because he grew up here. He also attended UfT. Just because he was working in the states doesnt make him any less Canadian, and he wrote frequently about Canada. Look at our present day PM, look at the relation he has with the USA. So presently it doesnt really matter. If someone decides to go and work in the United States, it doesnt make him/her any less Canadian and this applies to Ignatieff as it would apply to you or me.
As for his kids being American, Ive never heard of that.
He has the ability to lead the Liberal Party, and hes a fresh face, without any ties to Martin/Chretien. Something the party could use right now.
I agree with vishliberal about the USA stuff. I also think it would be nice if we could all put the Chrétien/Martin era behind us and move on to something different.
Michael Ignatieff is an eloquent and intellectual leader who is, without a doubt, qualified for the position. I remember he said something in one of his speeches that went along the lines of: "What separates us from the Conservatives is our compassion and left-of-center initiatives. However, we also believe in remaining economically competitive and keeping taxes low -- that's what separates us from the NDP."
I just thought that was a very brief and clear way to put things into perspective for the voters. If Martin had shown even an ounce of that kind of focus during the campaign, maybe things would have turned out better.
Michael Ignatieff is an eloquent and intellectual leader who is, without a doubt, qualified for the position. I remember he said something in one of his speeches that went along the lines of: "What separates us from the Conservatives is our compassion and left-of-center initiatives. However, we also believe in remaining economically competitive and keeping taxes low -- that's what separates us from the NDP."
I just thought that was a very brief and clear way to put things into perspective for the voters. If Martin had shown even an ounce of that kind of focus during the campaign, maybe things would have turned out better.
Like I said before I will say again. You can keep all your little Liberal candidates because non of them are perfect. They have a facade about them just like Martin and Chretian and if you look at them are just as bad as Harper.
Look at Ignatieff since he seems to have th most support.
First he says he supports Iraq. Now he doesn't. He said something like at the time I supported it like everyone else. Wrong the NDP never supported it.
Second he said he supported torture, now he doesn't.
He is a flip-flopper just like Harper.
Even talking about these people makes me sick.
Look at Ignatieff since he seems to have th most support.
First he says he supports Iraq. Now he doesn't. He said something like at the time I supported it like everyone else. Wrong the NDP never supported it.
Second he said he supported torture, now he doesn't.
He is a flip-flopper just like Harper.
Even talking about these people makes me sick.
Re: Brison for Grit Leader
Mr. Brison most certainly IS a rat, but that's okay, he shares that distinction with a personal hero of mine, Churchill.
BUT......Mr. Brison crossed the floor to a cabinet post......I don't like that, but must draw attention to the outrage from Liberals when Mr. Emerson.........need I say More?
Now, to Mr. Brison's performance since he crossed.....he certainly is Liberal material, as I never once saw him actually answer a question through months of grilling during Question Period in the House, he lied, misdirected, he defended unfathonable corruption, positively squirmed with public adoration for his corrupt new master, and showed his arrogance carried over into his relationship with his constituents at home.
Principled?
I don't think Brison knows the meaning of the word.
An excellent Liberal, though.
FiveParadox said:
Mr. Brison most certainly IS a rat, but that's okay, he shares that distinction with a personal hero of mine, Churchill.
BUT......Mr. Brison crossed the floor to a cabinet post......I don't like that, but must draw attention to the outrage from Liberals when Mr. Emerson.........need I say More?
Now, to Mr. Brison's performance since he crossed.....he certainly is Liberal material, as I never once saw him actually answer a question through months of grilling during Question Period in the House, he lied, misdirected, he defended unfathonable corruption, positively squirmed with public adoration for his corrupt new master, and showed his arrogance carried over into his relationship with his constituents at home.
Principled?
I don't think Brison knows the meaning of the word.
An excellent Liberal, though.
Mr. Brison didn't cross into a Cabinet post; he was a backbencher for quite some time before he was ever invited into the executive. Principled? He crossed in opposition to the principles of another party. That seems principled to me. As for Question Period, he may not have answered questions directly, but the Conservatives show contempt for the Parliament of Canada on various occasions — through responding to every question with "But the Liberals...", and on some occasions, calling all Ministers out of the Chamber to destroy Question Period entirely.
Jersay said:
A lot of what Ignatieff said about the war and torture was taken out of context though.
Actually, Brison didn't dress like that. Apparently the photo was some techie's attempt to re-dress certain personal issues. :mrgreen: The photo is doctored.Jay said:Is he married, because my wife wouldn't let me out of the house dressed like that....
That smile is vaguely discomforting ????
That smile is damn downright goofy !!!!
What the hell ???
Eh ?
That smile is damn downright goofy !!!!
What the hell ???
Eh ?