Lesbian high school cheerleader...

[hunboldt]

Yes, LG. homosexuality is gravely disordered and a mortal sin.

Romans 1 is the most literal condemnation.. but the entire Biblical evocation of morality, responsibility, family and natural law condemns it.. from Sodom forward. There are no such things as 'natural' or 'genetic' homosexuals.. there are just people who have abandoned natural law and God.. for the transient gratifications of homosexuality.. and escape from moral reality.. a fall into material debasement.

Even so our society discriminates between that which is sinful and that which is illegal. Sin is largely centred on the destruction of one's own soul... illegality usually involves wanton disregard for the welfare, property and dignity of others. In this case, Kaitlyn.. the cheerleader.. was involved with predatory opportunism in stealing the innocence of a 14 year old girl for her own sexual gratification.. likely causing her serious psychological confusion and distress.

That's a serious crime.. one for which men who have victimized young girls have spent years in prison.. and she's being offered what amounts to a conditional discharge... without penalty. That is not equal justice before the law.

coldstream< would I be CORRECT IN ASSUMING THAT YOU BELONG TO THE white berets?

Even leaving your interpretation of romans behind, since you didn't read or respond to my viewpoint, chucking the little blonde hunny into women's prison means she gets farmed out to the highest bidding boss mamma.

Quit the white Berets babble . Please. As a Catholic you are starting to irritate me- fellow dogan.

 

[spaminator]

Hubby and I started dating when I was 14, and he was 17 going on 18. At the time, it was legal. Some lawmakers arbitrarily changed it.

I have a hard time with the courts going tooth and nail after any consensual relationships over 13 years old, where they involve other teenagers. I think the sex offender status being applied to people and haunting their lives is not appropriate in those instances, especially where the courts have found that jail time isn't even appropriate.

just because something is legal doesn't make it right. that should never have been allowed.

 

[karrie]

just because something is legal doesn't make it right. that should never have been allowed.

Pardon me?

 

[coldstream]

coldstream< would I be CORRECT IN ASSUMING THAT YOU BELONG TO THE white berets?

Even leaving your interpretation of romans behind, since you didn't read or respond to my viewpoint, chucking the little blonde hunny into women's prison means she gets farmed out to the highest bidding boss mamma.

Quit the white Berets babble . Please. As a Catholic you are starting to irritate me- fellow dogan.

I didn't even understand your 'viewpoint' on Romans which seemed to be gleaned from some google search for completely invented and politically correct interpretations of the Bible.. And.. i have no idea what the White Berets are.. and belong to no militant group within the Church..

AND..

Kaitlyn was sent back to jail yesterday for ignoring the restrictions of her bail.. that she have NO contact with the minor with whom she had been having sex. Apparently she had sexual contact with the girl as late as July and had sent her nude photos and videos of herself and sexually explicit texts. She's out of control. She also faces new felony charges for luring on the internet.. which might scuttle the plea offer.

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/state/judge-revokes-bond-kaitlyn-hunt-back-in-jail

 

[petros]

She's out of control.

When was they last time you got laid? You were never a teen in love? What did you do? Jack off until your mom said it was okay to get boinked?

 

[hunboldt]

I didn't even understand your 'viewpoint' on Romans which seemed to be gleaned from some google search for completely invented and politically correct interpretations of the Bible.. And.. i have no idea what the White Berets are.. and belong to no militant group within the Church..

AND..

Kaitlyn was sent back to jail yesterday for ignoring the restrictions of her bail.. that she have NO contact with the minor with whom whe as having sex. Apparently she had sexual contact with the girl as late as July and had sent her nude photos and videos of herself and sexually explicit texts. She's out of control.
She also faces new felony charges for luring on the internet.

Judge revokes bond; Kaitlyn Hunt back in jail

Fess up- you didn't bother to read the Links PROVIDED.

but WHY am I debating with a fundie zealot?? She's in remand, not prison. Nice blog you provided as proof-, BTW...

 

[petros]

Debate? You can only slam them to the ground and pull the fingers out of their ears to make them listen.

 

[coldstream]

Right, so... a lipstick-lesbian would experience so much grace sleeping next to a big, hairy, snoring and farting blob.

You're not sure, eh?

Actually, did you know after the publication of Dante's inferno, it got popular to paint the devil blue, because it was hip to believe that hell was cold?

Oh, you mean like beautiful advertizing extoling the glories and virtues of Wall Street capitalism while babies in Bagdahd bet bombed to pay for it?



Hmm... check out the definition of the word 'rehabilitate', because technically, 'rehabilitating' a gay would mean de-programming her from thinking she's a twisted mutant for not being turned on by guys.

In any case, what you're describing sound more like the 'rehabilitation' of unfettered capitalism via deregulation.

Do you feel like you were born in the wrong era, such that you long for the days when aleged witches could be burned on suspicion?

I actually think Wall Street in completely under the pall of Lucifer. Free Market Capitalism has NOTHING to do with Christian Economics.. only about greed, power lust, avarice, sloth.. the Devil's playground.

I don't know if de-programming is the right word. It seems some therapy of delving into and unravelling the emotional trauma from which homosexuality spawns.. often in the context of a firm understanding of religious instruction as far as real constructive sexuality goes has been quite effective. That's why the homosexual lobby is so rabidly opposed to it.. because it works.. and completely unravels their psuedo logic.

And i actually think i'm before my time... as ultimately the turbulent and destructive social consequences of legitimizing and celebrating homosexuality will become apparent.

 

[petros]

And i actually think i'm before my time... as ultimately the turbulent social consequences of legitimizing and celebrating homosexuality will become apparent.

You're a luddite. You're own homosexuality has been suppressed for far too long and has you jaded.

 

[Blackleaf]

Yeah, it was a two-year age-of-proximity principal, and it seemed to work okay.

It doesn't matter. It was an adult - an 18 year old - having sex with a child below the age of consent. That's illegal. It doesn't matter how old the adult is. If you break the age of consent law you are sent to jail. Simple as.

In England and Wales and Northern Ireland the same laws apply to heterosexual and homosexual activity (rightfully homosexual activity is treated no differently in the eyes of the law to heterosexual activity) and sexual offences can be committed by anyone, male or female, over the age of 10, which is the age of criminal responsibility (so even young children can be imprisoned for sexual offences).

It is an offence for anyone aged 18 or over to intentionally engage in sexual touching with a young person aged 13, 14 or 15. 'Touching' covers all physical contact, including touching with any part of the body, with anything else and through anything, for example, through clothing. It includes penetration.

A person aged 18 or over is liable to up to 14 years' imprisonment for this offence. A person under the age of 18 is liable to up to 5 years' imprisonment. A person may claim in their defence that they believed the young person to be over 16 (the age of consent).

Intentional sexual touching of a young person under 13 is an absolute offence. This means there can be no defence in such a case that it was believed the person was over 16. Sexual touching which involves penetration of the v agina, anus or mouth by the p enis or penetration of the v agina or anus with a part of the body or any object is punishable by up to life imprisonment. Sexual touching not involving penetration is punishable by up to 14 years' imprisonment.

So basically, similar to as in Florida, if an 18 year old lesbian has a sexual relationship with a 15 year old girl that 18 year old lesbian is breaking the law, and is liable to imprisonment for 14 years.

 

[petros]

Age limits on love is tyranny.

 

[coldstream]

When was they last time you got laid? You were never a teen in love? What did you do? Jack off until your mom said it was okay to get boinked?

You're a luddite. You're own homosexuality has been suppressed for far too long and has you jaded

you know nothing about me, petros.. usually people who throw scurrilous remarks around are really talking about themselves.. that's been my observation anyway.

 

[Blackleaf]

Age limits on love is tyranny.

Ok then. So what do you propose? Get rid of the age of consent and make it legal for a 50 year old to have sex with an eight year old?

 

[hunboldt]

you know nothing about me, petros.. usually people who throw scurrilous remarks around are really talking about themselves.. that's been my observation anyway.

Not alt all. My stance is that a misdemeanor ahs been committed, and the 'punishment should fit the offense- psychiatric counselling in the community.

You are calling for a 'massive prison sentence'. Truly hilarious in your context of 'curing her lesbianism.'

 

[petros]

you know nothing about me, petros.. usually people who throw scurrilous remarks around are really talking about themselves.. that's been my observation anyway.

You're observations are jaded by you closet homosexuality. There is nothing to be afraid of. Start with Craigslist, you'll find somebody nice who doesn't want to have sex in a gas station but is into hunting, fishing, camping, fixing up muscle cars and BBQing. What do you have to lose?

 

[hunboldt]

Ok then. So what do you propose? Get rid of the age of consent and make it legal for a 50 year old to have sex with an eight year old?

ALF we don't do wish fulfillment here....

but hey- why not sell the jailhouse mammas some young bait? Alf and coldstream would is a pretty dark pace...

 

[coldstream]

This is the argument I don't get. How do you have a "transient" attraction for a particular sex? Are you talking a strait guy who gets drunk and lets a gay blow him? That's not attraction... that's just being drunk.

I know what turns me on, and there's nothing transient about it. I also know what does not turn me on, and I've never felt a "transient" shift towards it.

To me, all these people saying that orientation is a "choice" are just telling me they're bisexual.

Part of the problem is there is no set definition of homosexuality.. being purely a behaviour that some people briefly experiment with.. or habitually engage in.. for some people merely a transient wayward thought.. for others a compulsive obsession.. it has all the characteristics of a psychological pathology.. not a 'type'.. and certainly not a genetically predisposed and 'natural' condition.. which is laughable. It just show how completely irrational and gullible our society has become on this issue... we have really lost our bearings.

You're observations are jaded by you closet homosexuality. There is nothing to be afraid of. Start with Craigslist, you'll find somebody nice who doesn't want to have sex in a gas station but is into hunting, fishing, camping, fixing up muscle cars and BBQing. What do you have to lose?

as i said.. talking to a mirror.. :roll:

 

[petros]

Part of the problem is there is no set definition of homosexuality.. being purely a behaviour that some people briefly experiment with.. or habitually engage in.. for some people merely a transient wayward thought.. for others a compulsive obsession.. it has all the characteristics of a psychological pathology.. not a 'type'.. and certainly not a genetically predisposed and 'natural' condition.. which is laughable. It just show how completely irrational and gullible our society has become on this issue... we have really lost our bearings.



as i said.. talking to a mirror.. :roll:

You are? Coming out would do you good. You don't have to tell the guys at the KofC Tuesday senior's dinner and bingo. Even if you did, nobody would care and they won't try to make you join the CWL either.

 

[Locutus]

So now instead of agreeing to disagree, walking away and shutting your mouth or allowing the next clown to have an opinion too, this topic gets reduced to implying (calling) the other guy is 'a fag'. Good job everyone. Good job. :lol:

As you were.

 

[petros]

Who called who a fag? I'm calling him gay. Are YOU calling him a fag? That's low.

I wouldn't even call my brother a fag when I'm pissed off at him. Princess yeah but never a fag.