Latest Poll: Conservative Lead widens

[TenPenny]

[quote="Jay] and massive Crown Corporations. [/quote]

And other than the CBC and Via Rail, those massive crown corporations would be what, on a federal level?

 

[Jay]

I was sort of thinking of hydro and the CBC when I said that.


On a side note, I was looking through this the other day.

http://canada.gc.ca/depts/major/depind_e.html

 

[TenPenny]

As far as hydro goes, that's Provincial. And furthermore, anyone who lives in Nova Scotia can attest to the benefits of privatized electricity: every single time there is wind, or rain, or snow, or sleet, thousands upon thousands of residents are left without power for days.

 

[Jersay]

maybe i am, but he knows it's BS and thats a personal attack IMHO

Maybe i should post that Jack Laydown is gay and thats the only reason he wanted SSM to pass.

I know it's BS but it will get him going.

I don't really care if Jack Layton is gay. Good for him, however, if he is gay he should come out of the closet.

Gay and Lesbian people should deserve the same rights as any other Canadians because they are people too. Some conservative right-wing nuts, or so call Real Canadians which is true BS, want to strip them of human rights. So I can say what I say because it is fact with the conservative party and the Reform MP that leads them.

And FiveParadox, you are correct about the progressive policy.

 

[karra]

Gasp!!

Handsome Jack gay? Not a chance - he spent a good portion of his ill-begotten youth practicing and starring in porn - dat's a fact.

When he wasn't doing that he shacked up and chowed down on the availability of the Metropolitan Toronto Housing Authority - managing to acquire, while a local councillor, a two bedroom unit with a view of the Don River at social services rates and no more - all under the guise of conducting an experiment into the 'real' costs to those truly disadvantaged - neither he nor she paid back the difference btw - of course,while Porn Star Jack was conducting this experiment he didn't give a thought to the fact he was occupying an apartment required by hundreds of families in real need of such space. . . .

Such are the morals of socialists. . . .

 

[Texas1]

maybe i am, but he knows it's BS and thats a personal attack IMHO

Maybe i should post that Jack Laydown is gay and thats the only reason he wanted SSM to pass.

I know it's BS but it will get him going.

I don't really care if Jack Layton is gay. Good for him, however, if he is gay he should come out of the closet.

Gay and Lesbian people should deserve the same rights as any other Canadians because they are people too. Some conservative right-wing nuts, or so call Real Canadians which is true BS, want to strip them of human rights. So I can say what I say because it is fact with the conservative party and the Reform MP that leads them.

And FiveParadox, you are correct about the progressive policy.

You have no idea what a human right is.

Lets go to China and i'll show you.

 

[TenPenny]

When he wasn't doing that he shacked up and chowed down on

Careful, you'll be accused of racism for that.

 

[karra]

You should have finished the quote - what you've done is present an opportunity for those predisposed to pulling such cards on a whim and equally without a sense of humor. . . .

Nobody here like that I'm sure. . .

 

[FiveParadox]

You have no idea what a human right is.

Lets go to China and i'll show you.

Keep in mind please, Texas1, that each and every nation carries a separate opinion on what "human rights" are. Canada chooses a very broad description of human rights, securing far more rights as being inherently possessed by a person than would most other nations on the globe.

Some "human rights" in Canada may not be recognized in the United States as being "human rights" (as I would contend is the case regarding same-sex marriage, for example, where the United States appears to be headed in quite a separate direction from Canada on that matter in particular).

The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (which led to the particular responses of the Supreme Court of Canada, and the Supreme and Superior Courts of the Provinces to the Government of Canada's questions in relation to same-sex marriage) serves as a minimum of human rights; the Charter makes no representation of setting forth the extent to which those rights may be extended.

In addition, human rights evolve. In their response to the reference of the Government of Canada regarding same-sex marriage, the Supreme Court stated that despite the fact that marriage had at one time been recognized as exclusively an opposite-sex institution, "[the] recognition of same-sex marriage in several Canadian jurisdictions as well as two European countries belies the assertion that the same is true today" (the jurisdictions referred to by the Court were the Provinces that had accepted their own Supreme and Superior Courts' decisions).

Human rights are a fundamental keystone of Canadian governance, the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and of the Canadian people. To oppose the decision of the Honourable Justices of eight Provinces, and of one Territory, I would submit is unrealistic in the modern world; even if the House of Commons were to rescind the Civil Marriage Act, same-sex marriage in those jurisdictions would continue to stand.

:arrow: Returning to the Topic at Hand

One must keep in mind that the statistics we receive, in terms of projected support for the parties, could change at any moment; this campaign could become more and more interesting as we approach the taking of the votes for the Thirty-ninth General Election, and anything could yet happen.

Hell, for all we know, we could end up with a majority New Democratic Government. It doesn't seem likely, even near-impossible for this present election, but the point that I am trying to assert is that anything whatsoever is possible.

:?: What Are the Current Support Statistics?

As of January 3rd, 2006, according to SES Research:
The Liberal Party of Canada is supported by 33 % of the sample.
The Conservative Party of Canada is supported by 36 % of the sample.
The Bloc Québecois is supported by 13 % of the sample.
The New Democratic Party is supported by 15 % of the sample.
The Green Party is supported by 4 % of the sample.

 

[Texas1]

like i said you have no idea what a human right is.

 

[I think not]

Re: RE: Latest Poll: Conservative Lead widens

like i said you have no idea what a human right is.

Why don't you enlighten us Texas. FiveParadox wrote a lengthy post trying to convey his/her? opinion and the best you came up with is that? :roll:

I like your posts FiveParadox, keep them coming.

 

[Texas1]

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like i said you have no idea what a human right is.

Why don't you enlighten us Texas. FiveParadox wrote a lengthy post trying to convey his/her? opinion and the best you came up with is that? :roll:

I like your posts FiveParadox, keep them coming.

I don't think I need to respond to his/her small world thinking.

Let’s go to China or India and I’ll show you what a real human right is.

Spare me the bleeding heart crap.

If you need pictures and links I’ll get them. You won't like them.

If in your small mind SSM is a human right, you haven’t seen the world.

 

[the caracal kid]

good grief texas1!

as ITN stated, fiveparadox did a wonderful job expressing human rights with respect to canada and all you can say is "go to china". Yes, china has human rights issues when viewed from a western standpoint, but we are not discussing the differences between china and canada. We are discussing canada. If all you have is the old diversionary tactic of "somebody else has it worse" then you have clearly demonstrated you have no basis on which to make your argument.

Or is it that you desire canada to become like china wrt "human rights"?

 

[Texas1]

Re: RE: Latest Poll: Conservative Lead widens

good grief texas1!

as ITN stated, fiveparadox did a wonderful job expressing human rights with respect to canada and all you can say is "go to china". Yes, china has human rights issues when viewed from a western standpoint, but we are not discussing the differences between china and canada. We are discussing canada. If all you have is the old diversionary tactic of "somebody else has it worse" then you have clearly demonstrated you have no basis on which to make your argument.

Or is it that you desire canada to become like china wrt "human rights"?

fiveparadox did a wonderful job expressing human right too bad the UN which you people prey to doesn’t think so. It’s not a human right stop using the term unless you think it’s the same as a 8YO girl getting pimped out by her father.

You people have no idea what a human right is.

 

[I think not]

Re: RE: Latest Poll: Conservative Lead widens

I don't think I need to respond to his/her small world thinking.

But you did respond, in a shallow, dismissive way that only represents your lack of knowledge on the subject.

Let’s go to China or India and I’ll show you what a real human right is.

I've been to both, have you?

Spare me the bleeding heart crap.

Why don't you instead spare me the diversionary tactics?

If you need pictures and links I’ll get them. You won't like them.

I've seen them, and I don't like them, your point?

If in your small mind SSM is a human right, you haven’t seen the world.

I don't think SSM is a right, I don't even think heterosexual marriage is a right, but I do think that SSM marriages should be entitled to the rights heterosexual marriages are afforded. Why don't you tell me how a heterosexual marriage is a right since the SSM version is irritating to you?

 

[FiveParadox]

Importance of Justice and Rights in Canada

:!: Attention This post does not conform to the topic; however, I feel that I cannot in good conscience permit an argument above to go unchallenged. I would greatly appreciate the patience of the Moderators and Administrators, if they are reviewing this post, in permitting it to stand.

Texas1, simply because other nations have "problems," let's say, in terms of human rights, doesn't mean that Canada should be required to lower our own human rights standards.

We should assist countries, such as China and India, in reaching an acceptable standard in terms of their Governments' view on what is an appropriate guarantee of rights, and which rights are to be considered "human rights"; but again, this does not mean that our own progressive tendencies regarding the expansion of guaranteed rights should be haulted.

I am quite proud to live in a nation where our Government recognizes the supremacy of law, as per the preamble of the Constitution Act, 1982 and upheld by our Courts; and where our legislators are prepared to enact measures to expand our rights and freedoms, rather than advocate for their restriction.

:arrow: Quoting the Chief Justice

In conclusion, I would like to quote one who can sum up the principles of the Canadian interpretation of rights, freedoms and the need to protect and expand them, far better than I could ever hope to do: I quote the Chief Justice of Canada, and Privy Councillor, the Right Honourable Beverly McLachlin:

"Canadians are privileged indeed to live in a peaceful country. Much of our collective sense of freedom and safety comes from our community’s commitment to a few key values: democratic governance, respect for fundamental rights and the rule of law, and accommodation of difference. Our commitment to these values must be renewed on every occasion, and the institutions that sustain them must be cherished. [...] Canadians should expect no less."

Chief Justice of Canada, the Rt. Hon. Beverly McLachlin, P.C.
The entire statement can be read by clicking here.

 

[Texas1]

I'm thinking Peahead is hiding in this conversation somewhere?


And you 2 have a very screwed up analysis of a HUMAN RIGHT

 

[the caracal kid]

and what is a human right according to Taxas1?

 

[FiveParadox]

Confused.

I don't understand the "Peahead" reference.

And please, Texas1, in the interest of conversation, what is your interpretation of a human right, and how would you, in your opinion, argue that the Supreme Court of Canada has made an error in terms of the recognition of same-sex marriage as a human right in the context of Canada and its internal governance?

:arrow: Returning to the Topic at Hand

One must keep in mind that the current lead that the Conservative Party of Canada has over the Liberal Party of Canada, of three percentage points, should be considered with caution; the margin for error in the current statistics is believed to be ±3.1 %.

On a point of interest, it would appear that the Rt. Hon. Paul Martin continues to lead Stephen Harper, by a scant one percentage point, in terms of who would make the best Prime Minister, according to the current sample used in the statistics for SES Research.

:!: Edit Edited to add on-topic content.

 

[I think not]

He's obviously trolling people, why are you even bothering?