Who cares what the Argies want? The people that live on the Falkland islands have the right to decide if they wish to belong to Britain or become independent. Or even join Canada if they choose. It has absolutely nothing to do with Argentina wants.
Las Islas Malvinas are Argentine Territory Says UN!
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Who cares what the Argies want? The people that live on the Falkland islands have the right to decide if they wish to belong to Britain or become independent. Or even join Canada if they choose. It has absolutely nothing to do with Argentina wants.
No youYour from the most profane region on earth! And your tired? Go fuk yerself!
Argentina now owns the bottom of the ocean where that island is situated-that changes everything.
The present day residents/pasty faced hillbillies are a footnote in history.
Ask the Chagossians how loyal the Briddish gubmint is.
So, if the shelves in the Arctic put Ellesmere Island attached to Russia, do we then hand it over to them?
The Falklands aren't the only islands the Argies are claiming. They also lay claim to the Picton, Lennox and Nueva islands off the southern tip of Chile.
The "Beagle conflict" began in 1904 when the Argies laid claim to the islands that had always belonged to Chile and never to Argentina.
After refusing to abide by a binding international award giving the islands to Chile, the Argentine junta advanced the nation to war in 1978 in order to produce a boundary consistent with Argentine claims.
The Beagle conflict is seen as the main reason for Chilean support to the United Kingdom during the Falklands War of 1982.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beagle_conflict
The "Beagle conflict" began in 1904 when the Argies laid claim to the islands that had always belonged to Chile and never to Argentina.
After refusing to abide by a binding international award giving the islands to Chile, the Argentine junta advanced the nation to war in 1978 in order to produce a boundary consistent with Argentine claims.
The Beagle conflict is seen as the main reason for Chilean support to the United Kingdom during the Falklands War of 1982.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beagle_conflict
Actually they don't own anything. That another useless UN body with no authority thinks something does not make it so.
Argentina's claim to the Falklands is just a distraction from its own incompetence
It doesn't matter what the United Nations thinks about the Falklands Islands. Argentina's broken military is never going to take them back
25,000 servicemen were sent to retake the Falklands in 1982 Photo: Defence Picture Library
By Col Tim Collins
30 Mar 2016
The Telegraph
The Type 45 destroyer HMS Dragon is in the Falklands region, equipped with Sea Viper missiles and a 4.5” main gun
The assertion by the UN's Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf that Argentina's maritime territory should include the Falkland Islands is a bit like Jeremy Corbyn’s assertion that the UK should open negotiations over their fate. It does not matter. It is never going to change anything.
It is frustrating, however, that the UN seeks to breathe life into a dormant conflict against a settled, peaceful and democratically content people, in a world where Kim Jong-un threatens nuclear war while the European ideal disappears under a wave of humanity displaced by the brutality of militant Islam. Their migrant columns march only a few hundred miles south of the Ukrainian stand-off where death stalks the front lines.
It is typical of this failed institution. I am hoping that the Prime Minister, leader of one of the permanent five members of the UN Security Council, quietly reminds the UN who is paying for their junkets. If I were he I would be getting tired of their recent assertions that sexism is more "pervasive" and "in your face" in the UK than any other country or that the reform of housing benefit was an attack on human rights and invite them to focus on the real world – or do what the US does and simply stop the payments. At the same time I would very publicly ask how Argentine’s contributions were at. I would suspect that they are badly in arrears because Argentina is broke.
Col Tim Collins is a former SAS officer and a specialist in the field of counter-insurgency and security
Indeed, Argentina has gently withered to a shadow of a country thanks to political and financial mismanagement during the Kirchner regime. Drug traffickers from Bolivia and Peru are running their cargoes through the country because the infrequently paid police force is rarely to be seen. The Argentine military is disintegrating.
It was almost exactly a year ago that I wrote a piece in this paper about Buenos Aires being in talks with Vladimir Putin to secure 12 Sukhoi Su-24 "Fencer" bombers, capable of reaching Port Stanley; a clear and aggressive message. That was abandoned. Argentina could not afford it. They opted for a Chinese solution. This was also abandoned due to cost concerns.
In August 2015, the Argentine air force retired its Mirage fighters, with only a handful of them even flyable. The problems don’t stop there: their submarine crews, despite benefiting from a recent upgrade, need at least 190 days of immersion practice, and in 2014 only spent 19 hours submerged. Their four destroyers face a similar situation; they don’t have any weaponry.
Argentine ground forces rarely have the resources for training and are vastly under equipped, their kit dates back to the 70s and is in very short supply.
I had hoped that the election of Maricio Marci as president would hasten a new era of rapprochement in a turbulent world with our one time ally. The signs were good. Now thanks to the flatulent UN we are back to the diplomatic trenches. Do these duffers have nothing better to do?
Argentina's claim to the Falklands is just a distraction from its own incompetence - Telegraph
It doesn't matter what the United Nations thinks about the Falklands Islands. Argentina's broken military is never going to take them back
25,000 servicemen were sent to retake the Falklands in 1982 Photo: Defence Picture Library
By Col Tim Collins
30 Mar 2016
The Telegraph
The Type 45 destroyer HMS Dragon is in the Falklands region, equipped with Sea Viper missiles and a 4.5” main gun
The assertion by the UN's Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf that Argentina's maritime territory should include the Falkland Islands is a bit like Jeremy Corbyn’s assertion that the UK should open negotiations over their fate. It does not matter. It is never going to change anything.
It is frustrating, however, that the UN seeks to breathe life into a dormant conflict against a settled, peaceful and democratically content people, in a world where Kim Jong-un threatens nuclear war while the European ideal disappears under a wave of humanity displaced by the brutality of militant Islam. Their migrant columns march only a few hundred miles south of the Ukrainian stand-off where death stalks the front lines.
It is typical of this failed institution. I am hoping that the Prime Minister, leader of one of the permanent five members of the UN Security Council, quietly reminds the UN who is paying for their junkets. If I were he I would be getting tired of their recent assertions that sexism is more "pervasive" and "in your face" in the UK than any other country or that the reform of housing benefit was an attack on human rights and invite them to focus on the real world – or do what the US does and simply stop the payments. At the same time I would very publicly ask how Argentine’s contributions were at. I would suspect that they are badly in arrears because Argentina is broke.
Col Tim Collins is a former SAS officer and a specialist in the field of counter-insurgency and security
Indeed, Argentina has gently withered to a shadow of a country thanks to political and financial mismanagement during the Kirchner regime. Drug traffickers from Bolivia and Peru are running their cargoes through the country because the infrequently paid police force is rarely to be seen. The Argentine military is disintegrating.
It was almost exactly a year ago that I wrote a piece in this paper about Buenos Aires being in talks with Vladimir Putin to secure 12 Sukhoi Su-24 "Fencer" bombers, capable of reaching Port Stanley; a clear and aggressive message. That was abandoned. Argentina could not afford it. They opted for a Chinese solution. This was also abandoned due to cost concerns.
In August 2015, the Argentine air force retired its Mirage fighters, with only a handful of them even flyable. The problems don’t stop there: their submarine crews, despite benefiting from a recent upgrade, need at least 190 days of immersion practice, and in 2014 only spent 19 hours submerged. Their four destroyers face a similar situation; they don’t have any weaponry.
Argentine ground forces rarely have the resources for training and are vastly under equipped, their kit dates back to the 70s and is in very short supply.
I had hoped that the election of Maricio Marci as president would hasten a new era of rapprochement in a turbulent world with our one time ally. The signs were good. Now thanks to the flatulent UN we are back to the diplomatic trenches. Do these duffers have nothing better to do?
Argentina's claim to the Falklands is just a distraction from its own incompetence - Telegraph
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Wonder if he's related to Micheal Collins?
Col Tim Collins is a former SAS officer and a specialist in the field of counter-insurgency and security
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-a-distraction-from-its-own-incompetence.html
I like the Welsh dragon on that Type 45! Very cool!
By the way, Blackadder, a gun of any calibre on a modern warship is practically ceremonial, these days and they are only useful for firing shots over the bows of dhows and scaring the fuzzy-wuzzies. The dragon might do more.
By the way, Blackadder, a gun of any calibre on a modern warship is practically ceremonial, these days and they are only useful for firing shots over the bows of dhows and scaring the fuzzy-wuzzies. The dragon might do more.
Who gives a shi!t what the UN says?
The Falklands will always be a part of the UK as long as its inhabitants wish.
The Falklands will always be a part of the UK as long as its inhabitants wish.
They're very powerful things are the Daring-class Type 45 destroyers. They're the most powerful air-defence destroyers on Earth. So whilst the Royal Navy may not have quite the number of destroyers it had in 1982 during the Falklands War, its destroyer firepower is still far greater than it was in that war, with several Type 45s being as powerful as an old Type 42, which was used during the conflict. And whilst they pack a mighty punch, it's almost impossible for an enemy to hit them.
The Type 45 destroyers were built to replace the Type 42 destroyers that had served during the Falklands War, with the last Type 42 being decommissioned in 2013. The National Audit Office reported that, during an "intensive attack", a single Type 45 could simultaneously track, engage and destroy more targets than five Type 42 destroyers operating together. After the launch of Daring on 1 February 2006 Admiral Sir Alan West, a former First Sea Lord, stated that it would be the Royal Navy's most capable destroyer ever, as well as the world's best air-defence ship.
Crowds cheer as Daring-class Type 45 destroyer HMS Dauntless leaves Portmouth for the Falklands
The US Naval War College has suggested that the SAMPSON radar of the Type 45 is capable of tracking 1,000 objects the size of a cricket ball travelling at three times the speed of sound (Mach 3), emphasising the system's capabilities against high performance stealth targets.
In March 2013 the United States Naval Institute reported that the Royal Navy along with the United States Missile Defense Agency will explore the potential of the Daring class providing ballistic missile defence in Europe along with United States Navy Aegis equipped destroyers.[43] In May 2014, it was reported by Jane's Information Group that the United Kingdom is committing more funds to explore the capabilities of the SAMPSON multi-function radar and the Type 45 destroyer in a ballistic missile defence role. This followed a successful live firing event hundreds of miles north of Kwajalein Atoll in the Western Pacific Ocean, where Daring demonstrated the ability to "detect at the earliest opportunity" and track "through to intercept" two medium-range ballistic missiles. BAE systems reportedly told Jane's that the SAMPSON multi-function radar "exceeded expectations in all respects". An "Experiment Concurrency and Cueing (TECC)" event for the Type 45 is planned for late 2015.[44]
Because of the marked increase in capabilities delivered by the Type 45 destroyers in relation to their predecessors, the exceptionally high price per ship, and the large amount of public attention they have attracted, defence analysts and correspondents commonly refer to the Daring class as being the "most advanced" or "most powerful" air-defence destroyers in the world.[45][46] Likewise, the ships' builders BAE Systems claim; "Able to detect and track hundreds of targets simultaneously, the Type 45 Destroyer is recognised as the most advanced anti-air warfare vessel in the world."[47] Nick Brown the editor-in-chief of Jane’s International Defence Review was quoted by The Huffington Post (a US online news aggregator and blog) saying, "It’s [Type 45 destroyer] certainly one of the most advanced air defence ships in the world... The US Aegis system is similar, but Sea Viper (used on the Type 45) is more advanced."
I think it's safe to safe that in a Falklands War II, just the Royal Navy Type 45 destroyers alone would probably destroy most of the decrepit Argentine Navy in a matter of days.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_45_destroyer#Advanced_air-defence
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