Kyoto Treaty Hypocrisy Analyzed ???

EagleSmack

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I hope to one day be able to exist w/o fossil fuels. I think a lot of the world's problems would dissapear if the world was less dependent on oil and gas.

But to call the US position childish becuase it won't sign on to a treaty that would further hamper it's growth, economy, and tax the citizens of the US more. Whenever one of these treaties pop up the burden is on the US and all eyes are on the US.

As the article stated, Europe has signed on to Kyoto but are not really following the treaty. Auto manufacturers have had to bring down emissions over and over in the new vehicles. We used to pay peanuts for a vehicle inspection, just a few bucks. Now we have to pay about 35 bucks a year for them.

To give China and India a pass is hypocritical and naieve. China has a booming economy and it grows larger every year. Why does such a large nation get such a pass from the Kyoto nations? To say that they will join in 2012 with confidence again shows naievety. If China does not want to join in 2012, they will not. I am sure the world community will give them an extension to appease them. China does what it wants and it does what is in the best interest of the Chinese Govt. Mark my words, China will never sign Kyoto if it adversly affect their economy and stunts, even the slightest, thier growth.

But the US is easier to attack on issues like this. The Chinese will just smile and nod their heads.

They love hustling the west... they did it at Kyoto and got off w/o a scratch or condemnation from anyone. I bet they laughed the whole way home.
 

Jay

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Re: RE: Kyoto Treaty Hypocris

Reverend Blair said:
I would make the oxygen tanks available through state-run single payer health care.

Why not provide oxygen tanks to the poor, and those who can afford it, can buy their own...
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Kyoto Treaty Hypocris

Because then people are being taxed to provide services that they aren't eligible for. It also creates two or more levels of red tape, which pushes up the per capita cost for everyone, and diminishes the buying power of scales of economy.

In short, Jay...because it's more expensive and less fair.
 

I think not

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Re: RE: Kyoto Treaty Hypocris

Reverend Blair said:
I would make the oxygen tanks available through state-run single payer health care.

That may be a problem. By the time you get an oxygen tank, it may be too late.
 

Jay

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Re: RE: Kyoto Treaty Hypocris

Reverend Blair said:
Because then people are being taxed to provide services that they aren't eligible for. It also creates two or more levels of red tape, which pushes up the per capita cost for everyone, and diminishes the buying power of scales of economy.

In short, Jay...because it's more expensive and less fair.

You don't have to tell me about being taxed for things I'm not eligible for...happens everyday to me. I support being taxed for things to help the poor....not being taxed to prop up socialist systems...

Why does it create levels of red tape...I buy the canister with my own money, and the government pays for the other one for my poor friend.

Also governments often get preferred rates from corporations....At least in the computer industry they do....its called public sector pricing...
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Kyoto Treaty Hypocris

Check the per capita costs for US health care, Jay. The highest in the world and 40 million or so have no care at all.