This statement not humorous.......:?:
Are you kidding me umbrellas and the cricket bats...:sign3:I don't think it was meant to be humorous............
Knife crime in Briton
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Nope no kidding here...I have read many crime books where chairs, brooms, knives, guns, and baseball bats have been the weapon of choice...seriously (no kidding) we can NOT ban everything!!!
Banning knifes? you can't keep knives out of Prisons.
The problem is the label "Knife Crime", "Gun Crime" lets make the problem out to be Knives or Guns. If anything this proves handgun bans aren't really needed.
The problem you need to look at isn't how people are killing each other, its why in the hell are people killing each other.
The single most likely culprit is overcrowding, most species on this planet kill their neighbours when overcrowding sets in. Those that don't form angry mobs and kill their less immediate neighbours to gain more room.
Chickens are an example of the first (And why factory farms debeak their chickens) and Locust of the second. Man is not a magic creature who can live in cramped squalor easily.
The problem is the label "Knife Crime", "Gun Crime" lets make the problem out to be Knives or Guns. If anything this proves handgun bans aren't really needed.
The problem you need to look at isn't how people are killing each other, its why in the hell are people killing each other.
The single most likely culprit is overcrowding, most species on this planet kill their neighbours when overcrowding sets in. Those that don't form angry mobs and kill their less immediate neighbours to gain more room.
Chickens are an example of the first (And why factory farms debeak their chickens) and Locust of the second. Man is not a magic creature who can live in cramped squalor easily.
A valid point ,this urbanised human waste land we call our towns and cities, are becoming the roaming ground of youth thugs, and youth murderers, are we simply going to let them carry on killing each other and us ,and not doing anything about it ,because were over crowed, if that's the case why have not the chinese killed off each other ,due to the over crowding or over population of there cities ,seems to me that this is not the soul reason for this like i put before.
And i believe if there is no discipline, then there will continue to be no end to this, senseless killing, of the innocent youth, and others of my country. some form of deterrent must be found such as a larger enough sentence that would make those of them who would think of carrying a knife in public would think again ,such as and this is way too extreme. Like what they do in eastern countries for theft like cutting there limbs off, well over the top but you get my meaning, ( i do not condone this as the way to go forwards) but i do feel something that carries enough weight to make them to think twice ...:?:
Life looks better in prison when you're struggling on a street. Sorten up on that lifetime and there's a good chance you'll lengthen the chances a hot-headed killer will give murder a second thought. It doesn't matter if it's guns, knives, bats, bludgeons and yes, even sponges (sodden with a good foamy mix, you can drown a person fast) - dead is dead.
That's the problem prison is soft touch nowadays ,its like a university for criminals, instead of coming out reformed ,they are coming out with new ways to commit crimes,and see going back to jail as an easy thing not a thing to be afraid of ,tagging does not work and the ASBOs don't either ,our criminal Justis system needs to be shaken up but no body wants to say anything about it as it all boils down to cost far to many people in prison compound the problems if their was some way of making criminals pay back to society in a good way such as ,i dunno something along the lines of work gangs but better supervision ,it needs to be used as a deterring re-offending, not a quick fix ,some way of prisoners bringing down the cost of keeping them inside .and showing people crime does not pay or that it is a bad way to lead your life ,i have never been inside so it is hard for me to know how to change things but we need deterrents and fast...!!!
In the old system they feared it so much they killed cops and went out in a blaze of "glory", taking as many cops and civilian bystanders out in the mix.
And the long and the short of it is, even in britain, crime rates are lower.
London used to be a city where you couldn't leave your home without being pick pocketed in public or murdered and or raped the second you went out of public sight without an armed escort.
Alot of romanticism for earlier days that weren't that romantic.
NOW THERE AINT A COP TO BE SEEN AND PEOPLE ARE SCARED
you been reading to many Ian flemming novels
maybe not romantic but respect for older people counted for something
Death penalty. Don't make prison a resort. Most of your immigrant population think they've died and gone to heaven when they know they won't be punished the same as they would have at home ... and kids may know nothing at school but they sure as Hell know their rights! Stomp on 'em! Human rights only go so far. When they who flagrently disregard law, limb and life have more rights than their victims, it's time to re-evaluate the crybaby network.
Crybabies are the ones who protest the death penalty. If you can twist guards into that number, you better take some basic level reading comprehension.
Woof!
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No, guards are the ones in favour of "resort" living in the prisons as you call it.
The measures that turn cons into lazy fatasses instead of musclebound psychos with hours to plan.
Again, its nice tough talk, but it does nothing except put innocent people in harms way.
So whats more important to you? Acting like your tough on crime, or actually making the world safer?
The measures that turn cons into lazy fatasses instead of musclebound psychos with hours to plan.
Again, its nice tough talk, but it does nothing except put innocent people in harms way.
So whats more important to you? Acting like your tough on crime, or actually making the world safer?
Huh? I'm proposing not making prison such an attractive option to hungry kids on the street. If there's a death penalty, it's sort of obvious a killer won't be getting back out - no matter how much muscle bound attitude he/she builds up waiting on death row. As for the rest of them, do you really think they don't talk among themselves (trade intel) on the range - whether it's a resort or a roughhouse?
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They just need to be registered; that will keep us safe and Canada needs to do this quickly before knives become as big(er) a problem here too!
Wow, we need a knife registry right now! We need regulations - lots and lots of regulations!
They are using kitchen knifes here how would registering be of any use in this case....????:?:
We need regulations on who and when knives can be handled. They should be kept locked in a drawer and only people who have completed a coarse on not stabbing people should be allowed to use them. Also we should have laws on how strong, long and sharp knives need to be. Really, most of our knives are much stronger than they need to be. Most cutting could be done with plastic knives.
I would like to see some similar regulations on clubs. I think clubs might become our next big threat. Sharp sticks too; there is no need for sharp sticks!
Also anyone sensible would worry about rocks that could be used as a weapon. All the rocks in Canada should be locked up and registered!
I object to the suggestion that sharp pointedsticks be banned:x As a part time vampire hunter & slayer,they are essential in my job.
If there's a knife in your child's hand, it's in your hands to stop it.
Kids face all sorts of pressures and it may be that your child is in contact with friends who carry knives. The chances are your child has talked about knives with friends or heard a story about the kid who carried a knife. Whilst many young people do not carry knives – it is still a conversation worth having with your child.
You have a role to play in helping your child make the right choice on this subject. If there is one person your child will listen to, it’s you. They respect you more than you think.
These pages hold practical advice for parents/ carers on what they can do to reduce the likelihood of a child carrying a knife. We aim to give some pointers on what to look for, how to raise the subject and who to contact if you need more help.
As part of this campaign we have talked to a lot of young people about knives. We have also interviewed some young people who felt they needed to carry knives but then decided against it. To give you an idea of some of the issues young people face we have written up some true case studies. Below Ian, 16, talks of his hopes for the future and how the love and respect he has for his mum has guided him.
Case Study
'When my mum sits down and speaks to me, even if I don’t tell her stuff, it makes me think.'
I am seventeen next month and I ask myself, if things keep going this way, where will I be in a few years time? What will happen to me? I will be dead.
I have had a gun pointed at me, blades pulled on me and mates have been killed on the street. You feel it’s not safe if you are not carrying – people don’t understand, it’s not a choice, it’s a way of life in the area we live in.
I was in the cells for the second time and things changed for me - it was seeing the pain on my mum’s face. The worst thing you can do to your mum is let her see you in the cells.
Your mum is always there, you can talk to her – we have fights, we argue – but we will never say we hate each other. It’s the love my mum has for me that has inspired me. If she can make it legit, why can’t I?
I have started working with a construction company I’m on a training course that will take me through to being an apprentice.
I still have my brothers [friends] and they look out for me but I don’t want any part of the bad stuff anymore.
Mums need to take time, one to one with their kid – without going off on one and shouting. A mum should be like ‘I am not here to fight you’, I can help. Try to get the kid on a course or show them there are other choices and ways to make it legit. When my mum sits down and speaks to me, even if I don’t tell her stuff, it helps make me think, think twice about getting into that stuff.
http://campaigns.direct.gov.uk/talkaboutknives/
Kids face all sorts of pressures and it may be that your child is in contact with friends who carry knives. The chances are your child has talked about knives with friends or heard a story about the kid who carried a knife. Whilst many young people do not carry knives – it is still a conversation worth having with your child.
You have a role to play in helping your child make the right choice on this subject. If there is one person your child will listen to, it’s you. They respect you more than you think.
These pages hold practical advice for parents/ carers on what they can do to reduce the likelihood of a child carrying a knife. We aim to give some pointers on what to look for, how to raise the subject and who to contact if you need more help.
As part of this campaign we have talked to a lot of young people about knives. We have also interviewed some young people who felt they needed to carry knives but then decided against it. To give you an idea of some of the issues young people face we have written up some true case studies. Below Ian, 16, talks of his hopes for the future and how the love and respect he has for his mum has guided him.
Case Study
'When my mum sits down and speaks to me, even if I don’t tell her stuff, it makes me think.'
I am seventeen next month and I ask myself, if things keep going this way, where will I be in a few years time? What will happen to me? I will be dead.
I have had a gun pointed at me, blades pulled on me and mates have been killed on the street. You feel it’s not safe if you are not carrying – people don’t understand, it’s not a choice, it’s a way of life in the area we live in.
I was in the cells for the second time and things changed for me - it was seeing the pain on my mum’s face. The worst thing you can do to your mum is let her see you in the cells.
Your mum is always there, you can talk to her – we have fights, we argue – but we will never say we hate each other. It’s the love my mum has for me that has inspired me. If she can make it legit, why can’t I?
I have started working with a construction company I’m on a training course that will take me through to being an apprentice.
I still have my brothers [friends] and they look out for me but I don’t want any part of the bad stuff anymore.
Mums need to take time, one to one with their kid – without going off on one and shouting. A mum should be like ‘I am not here to fight you’, I can help. Try to get the kid on a course or show them there are other choices and ways to make it legit. When my mum sits down and speaks to me, even if I don’t tell her stuff, it helps make me think, think twice about getting into that stuff.
http://campaigns.direct.gov.uk/talkaboutknives/