Kember criticised for failing to thank his SAS rescuers.

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Typical peace activists.

British peace activist Norman Kember hates the British and American troops so much for being in Iraq that he has failed to thank them for rescuing him.

But he's not the only one. The Canadians also didn't thank their rescuers -




The Times March 25, 2006


Army's top general attacks Kember for failing to thank SAS rescue team
By Nick Meo, Michael Evans and Daniel McGrory

Freed hostage will arrive home today amid growing concern, report our correspondents


NORMAN KEMBER, the freed peace activist, will arrive back in Britain today amid growing controversy over his failure publicly to thank the military forces who rescued him.

Neither Professor Kember nor the Christian Peacemaker Teams (CPT) organisation for whom he worked have acknowledged the work of the soldiers who rescued him and two Canadian hostages on Thursday, or of the teams of military and intelligence officials who spent months trying to track them down.

General Sir Mike Jackson, the head of the British Army, expressed the unhappiness of the military last night when he told Channel 4 News that he was “saddened that there doesn’t seem to have been a note of gratitude for the soldiers who risked their lives to save those lives”.

Before flying out of Baghdad on an RAF aircraft yesterday, Professor Kember and his two fellow hostages released a brief statement that said nothing about the rescue force. It read simply: “We are deeply grateful for all those who prayed for our release. We don’t have words to describe our feelings, our joy and gratitude. Our heads are swirling; when we are ready, we will speak to the media.”

It was the third set of comments Professor Kember had relayed to the media that failed to mention his rescuers. A lengthy statement released by CPT after the hostages’ rescue on Thursday not only failed to thank their rescuers, but called on coalition forces to withdraw from Iraq.

The only oblique acknowledgement came from Professor Kember’s wife, Pat. In a statement released through the Foreign and Commonwealth Office last night, she thanked “all those who have helped secure his release”. But she, too, made no mention of the British-led unit that freed her husband in western Baghdad. She praised “government agencies and my family liaison officers”, but did not directly refer to the soldiers who stormed the kidnappers’ hideout in darkness.

CPT has always made it clear that its members did not want force to be used to rescue them if they were kidnapped or held hostage.

But, in the event, the coalition devoted huge resources to securing their release. The SAS, special forces from the US and Canada and military intelligence officers spent months trying to locate them.

A force consisting of SAS troopers backed up by about 50 paratroops and Marines spearheaded the task force that rescued them. US and Iraqi troops were also involved in the mission. Relaxed and rested after his 36-hour stay at the fortified British Embassy in Baghdad, Professor Kember was flown out of the green zone by military helicopter yesterday to begin his journey home. He then boarded an RAF military transport at Baghdad airport for the short flight to neighbouring Kuwait. From there he was being flown home.

Maxine Nash, of CPT in Baghdad, said that the organisation had not paid for his flight back to Britain. She said: “He elected to go through the Embassy, they arranged it. We did offer to pay for commercial flights for everyone but that can be difficult because it means driving through dangerous areas.”

She admitted that the pacifist hostages had mixed feelings about being rescued by the military. She said: “Our mandate is violence reduction so this was a tough call. Before they were kidnapped both Tom and Jim had said they didn’t want to be rescued.” Ms Nash said that the group was now considering leaving Baghdad. “After what has happened we’re going to spend some time thinking about what to do.”

Last night British diplomats in Iraq tried to sidestep the row over the apparently ungracious behaviour of the peace activists. Diplomatic sources let it be known that the three men did agree to face further questioning yesterday from intelligence agents trying to hunt down the group who held them for 118 days.

An intelligence source said: “They gave what help they could. They recognise that there are other hostages, including Westerners, still in captivity who we believe were taken by the same group.”

The source added that Professor Kember had “privately expressed his thanks to his rescuers” though he did not meet them. The activists explained that they could not be of much help with descriptions of their captors as the group kept their faces covered.

The three men revealed how, shortly before the SAS burst their way into their prison before dawn on Wednesday, their captors suddenly moved them to a downstairs room.

They were tied up and bound together. The hostages heard their captives leaving. British officials insisted that there had been no deal to free the trio.

They said that interrogators told the gang member they arrested this week that he must reveal the location of the hostages or face 30 years in jail.

RESCUE FIGURES

The hunt for Norman Kember and his fellow hostages involved

250 men from the Task Force Black US/British/Australian counter-kidnap unit

100 men from Task Force Maroon, the Paras and Royal Marines backing special forces

15 men in helicopter crews

AND tens of thousands of pounds spent on helicopter and transport aircraft flights


thetimesonline.co.uk
 

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Not only that, but Kember and the two ungrateful Canucks refuse to help the British and Americans as they search for other hostages jheld in Iraq -



Released hostages 'refuse to help their rescuers'
By Oliver Poole in Baghdad
(Filed: 25/03/2006)

The three peace activists freed by an SAS-led coalition force after being held hostage in Iraq for four months refused to co-operate fully with an intelligence unit sent to debrief them, a security source claimed yesterday.

The claim has infuriated those searching for other hostages.


SAS should send them back to their captors: ungrateful Canadians Harmeet Sooden and Jim Loney

Neither the men nor the Canadian group that sent them to Iraq have thanked the people who saved them in any of their public statements.

One of them, Norman Kember, 74, a retired physics professor, of Pinner, north-west London, was in Kuwait last night and was expected to return to Britain today. He is understood to have given some helpful information.

He provided details of the semi-rural area north-west of Baghdad where he was held and confirmed that his captors were criminals, rather than insurgents. Their motive was believed to be money.

The two Canadians kidnapped with Mr Kember - Harmeet Sooden, 32, and Jim Loney, 41 - were said to have been co-operative at first but less so on arriving at the British embassy in Baghdad after being given the opportunity to wash, eat and rest.

Previous hostages have been questioned on everything from what shoes their kidnappers wore to the number of mobile phones they had. The pacifist Christian Peacemaker Teams with which the men were visiting Iraq is opposed to the coalition's presence and has accused it of illegally detaining thousands of Iraqis.

Jan Benvie, 51, an Edinburgh teacher who is due to go to Iraq with the organisation this summer, said: "We make clear that if we are kidnapped we do not want there to be force or any form of violence used to release us."

Although the CPTs has welcomed the men's release, it has not thanked the rescuers in any of its statements. It blamed the kidnapping on the presence of foreign troops in the country, which was "responsible for so much pain and suffering in Iraq today".

When told how angry the coalition was feeling, Claire Evans, a spokesman for the CPTs in America, said: "We are extremely grateful to everybody who had a role leading to the men's release."

Mr Kember, in a statement through the embassy, said: "I have had the opportunity to have a shave, relax in the bath and a good English breakfast. I am very much looking forward to getting home to British soil and to being reunited with my family." He did not publicly thank his rescuers.

Tony Blair, in Brussels for an EU summit, said: "I'd like to say how pleased I am that he was released and pay tribute to the extraordinary courage, dedication and commitment of the British, American, Iraqi, Canadian and other forces that were involved."

Gen Sir Mike Jackson, the chief of the defence staff, told Channel 4 News: "I am slightly saddened that there does not seem to have been a note of gratitude for the soldiers who risked their lives to save those lives."

Asked if he meant that Mr Kember had not said thank you, he said: "I hope he has and I have missed it."

It emerged that about 50 soldiers, led by the SAS, including men from 1 Bn the Parachute Regiment and the Royal Marines, as well as American and Canadian special forces, entered the kidnap building at dawn.

A deal had been struck with a man detained the previous night who was one of the leaders of the kidnappers. He was allowed a telephone call to warn his henchmen to leave the kidnap house. When the troops moved in and found the prisoners alive, they also let him go as promised.

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RE: Kember criticised for

There is talk that the kidnappers were working for the SAS and American blackop merks. There is much talk that the bombings and the shootings are being directed by the Americans to ferment civil war, the only faction civil war serves is Uncle Sham.
 

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Good to see yet another grateful Canadian for the rescue of two fellow countrymen.
 

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I think to be fair, they were there to help the poor and starving, who have not benefitted from this war, and to be frank, even if Saddam Hussain was still in power wht would be the worst they would face as foreign nationals?...being paraded on tv as "human shields".

Nope, just because they were hostages, maybe even because of it, they also now aboviously realise this is a completly unjust and irrelevant war, Bush was looking for a reason to attack Iraq, everyone knows this, shyte, if the it was found that some american exported food was reported to make people sick in iraq I have no doubt george W Bush would have used that as pre-emptive excuse for war against them.

no, and we've been thrown into this stupid war like idiots, and I honestly feel you CANNOT blame Kember or the Canucks for the attitude they have taken, ok, kidnapping goes with the job, but the american administration is so corrupt and full of viler men than in iraq to begin with....why take their side?
 

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Finally. Kember has said thank-you to the military forces that rescued him.

I wonder if the two Canadians have done the same.
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Kember: 'Thanks for securing my freedom'
25th March 2006



Norman Kember has arrived back home in north London and paid tribute to the special forces soldiers who rescued him following four months in captitivity in Iraq.

Alongside his wife, the 74-year-old read out a statement he'd written on the journey back home. He said: "I do not believe lasting peace is achieved through armed force but I thank and pay tribute to those who played a part in my rescue.

"It is the ordinary people of Iraq that you should be talking to. People who have suffered so much over so many years and stiil wait for the stable and just society they deserve."

He added: "I am grateful to those from many faith communities who appealed for my release and held prayers and vigils in my name.

"I am delighted to be reunited with my family. I've been overwhelmed by the messages of support. Our home is like a flower shop. I need to reflect on my experience. Was I foolhardy or rational? And I also need to enjoy my freedom in peace and quiet."

Mr Kember has returned to British soil after 119 days of captivity as a hostage in Iraq.

He touched down at Heathrow Airport at 12.22pm today on a British Airways flight from Kuwait, after leaving Baghdad yesterday on a military transporter.

A minister at Mr Kember's church has made a statement thanking military and civilian authorities for their "expertise, patience and restraint" in the rescue of the veteran peace activist and his Canadian fellow hostages James Loney, 41, and Harmeet Singh Sooden, 32.

The Rev Bob Gardiner, of the Harrow Baptist Church, said: "We are happy to say thank you to all those who used their professional expertise, patience and restraint in the successful rescue of Norman, James and Harmeet on Thursday. "We are also grateful to the British Government for its close co-operation with myself and the Kember family since Norman was kidnapped in November.

"We were impressed by the sensitivity with which it responded to our concerns about any possible use of force in any rescue attempt.

"We are thankful for the way in which they honoured their promises to intervene only when there was a considerable degree of assurance that there would be no loss of life.

"We are also grateful for the compassionate way in which Pat in particular was guided and protected, encouraged and kept up to date during the period of Norman's captivity and the kindness shown by those in direct contact with her."

Neither the Foreign Office nor the Ministry of Defence would comment on whether any promises were made to Mr Kember's family and friends about the nature of the rescue operation. Mr Kember, who was freed in a multi-national military operation involving the SAS and other forces on Thursday, flew back to the UK amid a cloud of controversy.

He has been criticised for failing publicly to thank the soldiers who rescued him and his Canadian colleagues.

Yesterday Chief of the General Staff, General Sir Mike Jackson, said he was "saddened" at the apparent snub.

Mr Kember was one of four westerners seized on November 26 while on a visit to support the Canada-based international peace group Christian Peacemaker Teams.


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THE rejoicing over Norman Kember’s rescue leaves me cold.

He didn’t want the terrorists to lay down arms. This “peace campaigner” just wanted coalition forces to get out.

The lives of American and British troops should not have been risked to rescue these apologists for terror.

DAVID THOMAS
Brynna, Rhondda Cynon Taff (£30 letter)
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WHILE joining the jubilation, it’s worth noting Norman Kember was released by the very troops that he did not want to be rescued by.

No doubt after 118 days he was glad to see them. I hope he reflects on this and begins to grasp why those troops are there.

BRIAN BAKER
Craven Arms, Shropshire
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FOR the Christian Peacemaker Teams to suggest the rescue was “unwanted” is insulting to Mr Kember’s family as well as the soldiers.

If these groups believe military action is unwarranted, they should stop putting themselves in a position where the military has to rescue them.

MARK WILSON
Gateshead, Tyne And Wear
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WHY can’t the Government ban these do-gooders from going to Iraq?

Let’s face it — they were risking their lives for peace when the people there don’t seem to want peace.

STACEY CRAW
Arbroath, Angus
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WHY all the fuss over Mr Kember? He was advised not to go. He ignored the pleas. Not only did he put his life at risk but also our forces.

MICK COOK
Stevenage, Herts
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NORMAN Kember and his pacifist pals should remember it was because of such ostrich-like opinions that Britain was nearly defeated in 1939.

It was only when we stood up to Hitler that our freedom was assured.

RAY PARKIN
Birmingham
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What a silly man Norman Kember is. All the risk, and the cost of his rescue and for what?

Who did he think would take notice of him? He should be locked up before he can do more damage.

RAY GOULDING
Attleborough, Norfolk
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TEN out of ten to the forces. Zero points to Mr Kember for going to Iraq without proper security. He and his fellow do-gooders should have to foot the bill for their rescue.

SUE HUDSON
Westbourne Green,West London
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IF idiots like Norman Kember want to risk their lives let them get on with it. Our boys have enough to deal with without do-gooders getting in the way.

JOHN DOWNEY
Chester
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NO wonder the SAS are renowned as the best elite fighting force in the world, and with the help of the Paras and US troops, Mr Kember is free.

Well done to all who rescued him.

GRAHAM BICKERSTAFFE
St Helens, Merseyside
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WHY is Norman Kember being treated as a hero? He is a stupid, selfish man whose pointless crusade put our valiant soldiers at risk.

After four months of captivity, he had been unable to convince his Iraqi abductors to lay down their weapons.

And then to thank embassy staff and faith groups, but not to praise the SAS, is completely reprehensible.

Can you tell us what you accomplished, Mr Kember?

JEANETTE HARPER
Wolverhampton


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Perhaps Kember and the Canucks would have rather felt a knife sawing across their neck rather than be rescued.

What a bunch of ungrateful pompous areses.
 

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Since the kidnappers didn't mistreat them I do not know what kind of Bs you are talking about there.

If they don't want to thank US and coalition forces that they all along were documenting human rights abuses against why should they if they don't want to.
 

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I guess kidnapping in itself is not abuse.
Always apologizing for the terrorists?
 

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Kidnapping has been going on for centuries I don't remember it being called terrorism until a stupid looking guy said so.

I got reasons to hate groups that kill people for no reason, but I support groups that are opposing an oppressive force. That was called the American revolution I believe.
 

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The humanitarian case for war in Iraq
By Jeff Jacoby
Mar 23, 2006

"I wondered at first whether the women were exaggerating."

The writer is Pamela Bone, a noted Australian journalist and self-described "left-leaning, feminist, agnostic, environmentalist internationalist." She is writing about a group of female Iraqi emigrees whom she met in Melbourne in November 2000.

"They told me that in Iraq, the country they had fled, women were beheaded with swords and their heads nailed to the front doors of their houses, as a lesson to other women. The executed women had been dishonoring their country with their sexual crimes, and this behavior could not be tolerated, the then-Iraqi leader, Saddam Hussein, had said on national television. More than 200 women had been executed in this manner in the previous three weeks.... Because the claims seemed so extreme, I checked Amnesty International's country report.... Some of the women's 'sexual crimes' were having been raped by one of Saddam's sons. One of the women executed was a doctor who had complained of corruption in the government health department."

Bone's words appear in an essay she contributed to "A Matter of Principle: Humanitarian Arguments for War in Iraq," a 2005 collection edited by Wellesley College sociologist Thomas Cushman. To read her essay this week, with the war entering its fourth year, is to be reminded of the abiding moral power of the liberal case for the war. While most of the left was always opposed to liberating Iraq -- a subset of its comprehensive opposition to President Bush and all his works -- a small but honorable minority never lost sight of the vast humanitarian stakes: Defeating Saddam would mean ending one of the most unspeakable dictatorships of modern times. Wasn't that a goal anyone with progressive values should embrace?

That was why, "in February 2003, when asked to speak at a rally for peace, I politely declined," Bone writes. "But I added, less politely, that if there were to be a rally condemning the brutality Saddam Hussein was inflicting on his people . . . I would be glad to speak at it."

But condemning Saddam's brutality, let alone doing something to end it, was not a priority for most of the left. I remember asking Ted Kennedy during the run-up to the war why he and others in the antiwar camp seemed to have so little sympathy for the countless victims of Ba'athist tyranny. Even if they thought an invasion was unwise, couldn't they at least voice some solidarity with the innocent human beings writhing in Saddam's Iraqi hell? Kennedy replied vehemently that he took a back seat to no one in his concern for those who suffer under all the world's evil regimes, and demanded to know whether supporters of war in Iraq also wanted to invade North Korea, Burma, and other human-rights violators.

It was a specious answer. The United States may not be able to stop every homicidal fascist on the planet, but that is hardly an argument for stopping none of them. If the Bush administration had listened to Kennedy and to the millions like him the world over who protested and marched raised their voices against invading Iraq, would the world be a better place today? Leaving Saddam and the Ba'athists in power -- free to break and butcher their victims, to support international terrorists, to menace other countries -- would have emboldened murderous dictators everywhere. The jihadists of Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, and Hamas, celebrating the latest display of American irresolution, would have been spurred to new atrocities. The Arab world would have sunk a little deeper into its nightmare of cruelty and fear. And women's heads would still be getting nailed to the front doors of Iraqi homes.

Three years into the war, with many Americans wondering if it was a mistake and the media coverage endlessly negative, one voice I miss more than ever is that of Michael Kelly. The first journalist to die while covering the war, Kelly was the editor of The Atlantic and a columnist for The Washington Post. He had covered the liberation of Kuwait in 1991, and in one of his last columns, filed from Kuwait City, he reflected on the coming liberation of Iraq: "Tyranny truly is a horror: an immense, endlessly bloody, endlessly painful, endlessly varied, endless crime against not humanity in the abstract but a lot of humans in the flesh. It is, as Orwell wrote, a jackboot forever stomping on a human face.

"I understand why some dislike the idea, and fear the ramifications, of America as a liberator. But I do not understand why they do not see that anything is better than life with your face under the boot. And that any rescue of a people under the boot (be they Afghan, Kuwaiti, or Iraqi) is something to be desired. Even if the rescue is less than perfectly realized. Even if the rescuer is a great, overmuscled, bossy, selfish oaf. Or would you, for yourself, choose the boot?"

Jeff Jacoby is an Op-Ed writer for the Boston Globe, a radio political commentator, and a contributing columnist for Townhall.com.

http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/jeffjacoby/2006/03/23/190908.html
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