I don't think snfu73 meant little children when he said "many ages". I think it meant people of a legal age...be it 18 or 29 or 53. At any age it can be a difficult decision...giving up your virginity or even just deciding to sleep with someone if you're not a virgin.
Keeping virginity till marriage for the Catholics, unrealistic?
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I don't think snfu73 meant little children when he said "many ages". I think it meant people of a legal age...be it 18 or 29 or 53. At any age it can be a difficult decision...giving up your virginity or even just deciding to sleep with someone if you're not a virgin.
Sex is a beautiful gift given to us by god. When it ceases to be that, whether in marriage or not, in my opinion that is sinful.
Both the same, with different levels of expectations. Chastity is absence of sexual activity before ,and outside of,
marriage.
Celibacy is also an absence of sexual activity, in this case through a vow made to God.
Yeah, they want you to obstain till married, then they want you to turn out a baby every year, to
keep that catholic population high.
I don't imagine many Catholics today pay much attention to either abstaining from sex, or 'not' using
birth control, both are unrealistic in this day and age.
The few people who do abstain from sex till marriage might wonder later on if the grass is greener
on the other side, or not, who knows, up to the individual, good for some, not for others.
keep that catholic population high.
I don't imagine many Catholics today pay much attention to either abstaining from sex, or 'not' using
birth control, both are unrealistic in this day and age.
The few people who do abstain from sex till marriage might wonder later on if the grass is greener
on the other side, or not, who knows, up to the individual, good for some, not for others.
Guess what? Everything you own, everything you do, and all that this world is, stays here.
Now, it can be heaven or it can be hell. It all depends on our spiritual attitude.
Think on this verse: Ecc 9:11 I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.
Where in time are we that we should not suffer, or have plenty?
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In the Old Testament book of Genesis, we are shown where Sarah selected mistresses for her husband Abraham. She selected Hagar as the bearer of Ishmael who is the father of all Arabs. In the New Testament we are told that Sarah is to serve as the ideal role model for all wives. See I Peter 3:6 where a wife is called "Sarah's daughter" if she imitates her example.
Imagine - a wife who selects mistresses for her husband is called Sarah's daughter!
Who says you have to remain a virgin in order to be a good Christian??
The Bible certainly doesn't say so.;-)
Imagine - a wife who selects mistresses for her husband is called Sarah's daughter!
Who says you have to remain a virgin in order to be a good Christian??
The Bible certainly doesn't say so.;-)
I think one of the most spiritual things that two humans can do is to make love...or have sex. That intimacy and those feelings...the emotions...the experience...it really is enlightening. You learn about yourself...and whoever you are with...from a completely new angle. I see sex and sexuality as TOO important NOT to be experienced...too important to abandon...TOO important not to explore.
Sounds like my great grandma!
Actually I heard she treated the mistress/2nd wife like her sister! I don't reckon I'm that big enough to be able to do that...
Are you implying good Christian wife, projection of Sarah, should select a mistress for the hubby?! 8O
That would certainly make you men holly and jolly!
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`` Are you implying good Christian wife, projection of Sarah, should select a mistress for the hubby?!``
According to Christian teaching, the answer is no.
According to biblical teaching, the answer is yes.
Which you prefer: the ideas of certain people, or the eternal Law of the Bible?
The choice is yours and you will answer to God on the Judgment Day for your compliance (or failure thereof) with the Law, not with people's opinions.
According to Christian teaching, the answer is no.
According to biblical teaching, the answer is yes.
Which you prefer: the ideas of certain people, or the eternal Law of the Bible?
The choice is yours and you will answer to God on the Judgment Day for your compliance (or failure thereof) with the Law, not with people's opinions.
... and one thing more: while certain bigoted Christians {sic} condemn Muslims for allowing their men to have four wives, the Bible clearly shows that a man can have seven wives in Isaiah 4:1.
It may not be 'Christian' teaching but it certainly is biblical teaching.
It may not be 'Christian' teaching but it certainly is biblical teaching.
If you like the yes answer, then it could also be said you believe in the bible.
God was not ignorant when He designed the attraction of the opposite sexes, for it was a designed to be a wonderful, beautiful experience while at the same time promulgating the specie.
But then we have the problem with lust! Lusting after is what makes another god.
If we can learn to manage those gods and still maintain the respect for the true God, then our lives would be so much richer and blessed.
But the flesh is a lustful machine that has to be tamed, controlled in order for it to progress towards life. That life of coarse of which I speak is the spiritual.
The object: is for the master Gardner to gleam the fruits of the harvest .Mar 4:8 And other fell on good ground, and did yield fruit that sprang up and increased; and brought forth, some thirty, and some sixty, and some an hundred.
This world is the garden of the master: Luk 10:2 Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest.
Have we mastered the gods of the flesh yet?
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Why is 18 the magic number? I mean...just out of curiousity...why is that the general guidepost?
Could you handle 7 wives, provide for them and keep the children from fighting against each other.
Just look at the fight Abraham's Sarah had over Hagar's son. And look at all the killings between the two to this day.
Abraham being given to the lusts of the flesh, produced the enmity between the two brothers.
But just don't look at the story for a literal meaning, but look at the story for the spiritual meaning.
Issac represents the seed of promise, the free women, meaning Sarah, and Ismael representing the bondage, or the bond women, Hagar.
The lesson here is: 1. that the second shall be first and 2. that the promise of life is in the free women.
For the promise was that Sarah would conceive on God's timing and not Abraham's. Abraham stepped out of promise and fathered Ishmael
But then redeemed himself in the attempt sacrifice of .Isaac
Jesus is a picture or a similitude of Abraham's testing, and a picture or similitude of the sacrificial ram: Gen 22:13 And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him a ram caught in a thicket by his horns: and Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering in the stead of his son.
And to Abraham God said: Gen 22:12 And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me.
That is a picture of Gods love for us that He would not withheld the offering of His Son for the salvation of the world.
Is there not a greater demonstration of love than that?
My friends, "You are loved"!and don't realize it!
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Just because at 18 seems to be the general consensuses for adult hood, that's all.
Besides, at 18, they seem to know everything anyways. :roll:
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lol....I always think I know everything...and then, an hour later, I found out I didn't...