There are very, very few politicians that are worth getting excited about. Is Trudeau an exception? I won't hold my breath. Anyone who extolls these creatures is just setting themselves up. :lol:
Justin Trudeau to announce Liberal leadership bid next week
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Harper wasn't parachuted in. He has been in politics since I don't know, the late 70's early 80's.
At present I asked the PM why the Gov is screwing over Vets and my question to Justin was How was he changing the world (BARF) one day at a time. I'm an equal; opportunity AHole.
Harper was 42 when he became leader of the Alliance party.
Pierre was in his mid 40's
Mulroney was in his mid 40's
Laurier was in his mid 40's
Clark was 40
Campbell was in her mid 40's.
So, what are you looking for, someone that's ready to kick the bucket?
:roll:
In other words, you really don't have anything aside from him being Pierre's son. Sins of the father.
I'm saying Justin needs to serve in Government for at least another ten years before anyone is going to take him seriously and not regard him as a joke whose riding on Daddy's coat tails. It would be in his best interest, because it is very likely that the media will eat him alive once he started shooting his yap off.
And as a footnote to my earlier post about Harper.
Harper became involved in politics as a member of his high school's Young Liberals Club.[8] He later changed his political allegiance because he disagreed with the National Energy Program (NEP) of Pierre Trudeau's Liberal government.[9] He became chief aide to Progressive Conservative MP Jim Hawkes in 1985, but later became disillusioned with both the party and the government of Brian Mulroney, especially the administration's fiscal policy[8] and its inability to fully revoke the NEP until 1986. He left the PC Party that same year.[10] He was then recommended by the University of Calgary's economist Bob Mansell to Preston Manning, the founder and leader of the Reform Party of Canada. Manning invited him to participate in the party, and Harper gave a speech at Reform's 1987 founding convention in Winnipeg. He became the Reform Party's Chief Policy Officer, and he played a major role in drafting the 1988 election platform. He is credited with creating Reform's campaign slogan, "The West wants in!"[11]
Harper ran for the Canadian House of Commons in the 1988 federal election, appearing on the ballot as Steve Harper in Calgary West. He lost by a wide margin to Hawkes, his former employer. The Reform Party did not win any seats in this election, although party candidate Deborah Grey was elected as the party's first MP in a by-election shortly thereafter. Harper became Grey's executive assistant, and was her chief adviser and speechwriter until 1993.[12] He remained prominent in the Reform Party's national organization in his role as policy chief, encouraging the party to expand beyond its Western base and arguing that strictly regional parties were at risk of being taken over by radical elements.[13] He delivered a speech at the Reform Party's 1991 national convention, in which he condemned extremist views.[14]
Harper's relationship with Manning became strained in 1992, due to conflicting strategies over the Charlottetown Accord. Harper opposed the Accord on principle for ideological reasons, while Manning was initially more open to compromise. Harper also criticized Manning's decision to hire Rick Anderson as an adviser, believing that Anderson was not sufficiently committed to the Reform Party's principles.[15] He resigned as policy chief in October 1992.
Harper stood for office again in the 1993 federal election, and defeated Jim Hawkes amid a significant Reform breakthrough in Western Canada. His campaign likely benefited from a $50,000 print and television campaign organized by the National Citizens Coalition against Hawkes, although the NCC did not endorse Harper directly.[16]
Hey what the F I never wrote that. Gerry Wrote that! This is a Liberal Conspiracy.
And as a footnote to my earlier post about Harper.
Harper became involved in politics as a member of his high school's Young Liberals Club.[8] He later changed his political allegiance because he disagreed with the National Energy Program (NEP) of Pierre Trudeau's Liberal government.[9] He became chief aide to Progressive Conservative MP Jim Hawkes in 1985, but later became disillusioned with both the party and the government of Brian Mulroney, especially the administration's fiscal policy[8] and its inability to fully revoke the NEP until 1986. He left the PC Party that same year.[10] He was then recommended by the University of Calgary's economist Bob Mansell to Preston Manning, the founder and leader of the Reform Party of Canada. Manning invited him to participate in the party, and Harper gave a speech at Reform's 1987 founding convention in Winnipeg. He became the Reform Party's Chief Policy Officer, and he played a major role in drafting the 1988 election platform. He is credited with creating Reform's campaign slogan, "The West wants in!"[11]
Harper ran for the Canadian House of Commons in the 1988 federal election, appearing on the ballot as Steve Harper in Calgary West. He lost by a wide margin to Hawkes, his former employer. The Reform Party did not win any seats in this election, although party candidate Deborah Grey was elected as the party's first MP in a by-election shortly thereafter. Harper became Grey's executive assistant, and was her chief adviser and speechwriter until 1993.[12] He remained prominent in the Reform Party's national organization in his role as policy chief, encouraging the party to expand beyond its Western base and arguing that strictly regional parties were at risk of being taken over by radical elements.[13] He delivered a speech at the Reform Party's 1991 national convention, in which he condemned extremist views.[14]
Harper's relationship with Manning became strained in 1992, due to conflicting strategies over the Charlottetown Accord. Harper opposed the Accord on principle for ideological reasons, while Manning was initially more open to compromise. Harper also criticized Manning's decision to hire Rick Anderson as an adviser, believing that Anderson was not sufficiently committed to the Reform Party's principles.[15] He resigned as policy chief in October 1992.
Harper stood for office again in the 1993 federal election, and defeated Jim Hawkes amid a significant Reform breakthrough in Western Canada. His campaign likely benefited from a $50,000 print and television campaign organized by the National Citizens Coalition against Hawkes, although the NCC did not endorse Harper directly.[16]
Hey what the F I never wrote that. Gerry Wrote that! This is a Liberal Conspiracy.
What? That's a valid criticism.
So is his separatist gaffe.
That's three strikes, he's out.
There's that too. But I've seen enough to know he's his fathers kid. Only Justin isn't as smart or savvy.
Sorry dude, I have no idea how that happened. I fixed it.
Bear, quite frankly, I'm scarred by this whole event. I would call you a barbarian, but feel that is a word even too harsh for those who would carry out an honor killing. I'm trying to be more sensitive and change the world one day at a time.
I wouldnt say Justin was parachuted in either. He had a tough riding. Quite a few people expected him to lose his seat in the last election.
Yes, Harper has had an interest in politics for a long time but when it comes to actually being in office - not a whole lot before he became leader of the Alliance or PM. Two terms as an MP, about what Justin will have by 2015. His father had less than that as did Mulroney.
Im not sure why Im defending him though. I doubt he'll change my vote one way or another.
I say that working within the atmosphere of three political parties is plenty of experience.
Ya, you're right. He did seem flakey in his younger years. Problems with commitment perhaps.
For party politics sure, for running a country? Not really.
I dont think Id count his 'experience' with the Liberals. It was a high school.
Seriously? Can I imagine it?
Yes.
You'd all still love me if I was posting as an ex-Pat right?
