Justin Trudeau Says He Never Forced People To Get Vaccinated And That We've Always Been At War With Eurasia

[petros]

OTTAWA, ON — In a country-wide broadcast this week, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau denied ever forcing COVID-19 vaccinations on Canadian citizens and also reminded the general public that Canada has always been at war with Eurasia.

"Ingsoc…I mean…the Liberal Party, would like to remind Canadian residents that just as we have never had peace with Euraisia, I also never ever told the public they had to be vaccinated or lose their jobs," Trudeau announced over Canada's network of in-home telescreens. "Let this serve as a reminder that anyone found in disagreement with this proclamation will be remitted immediately to the Ministry of Love for reeducation!"

Canadians reacted to the message with mixed emotions. "I could have sworn he mandated that all truckers entering the Canadian border had to be vaccinated or they would lose their commercial drivers' license," said Ottowa citizen Winston Smith, who was never heard from again.

Trudeau went on to say, "While not forcing anyone to get vaccinated, I chose to make sure all the incentives and all the protections were there to encourage Canadians to get vaccinated. Now let us begin the Two Minutes Hate towards Eurasia and the unvaccinated!"

As of press time, Trudeau's image was seen projected on the sides of buildings with the message "Justin Is Watching" scrawled underneath. Liberal Thought Police were on hand to gently remind skeptical residents they must comply or be lovingly starved and tortured to bring their beliefs in line with the Party.

 

[Ron in Regina]

That dude is swirling around the bowl grasping at the plastic straws…that he banned.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

That dude is swirling around the bowl grasping at the plastic straws…that he banned.

OK, factual question. . . was any Canadian forced to get vaxxed?

 

[petros]

OK, factual question. . . was any Canadian forced to get vaxxed?

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[Ron in Regina]

OK, factual question. . . was any Canadian forced to get vaxxed?

If you worked for the federal government, or the health regions… if you wanted to keep your job, then, yes.

If you worked in the transportation industry, and it involves cross border transportation, and you wanted to keep your job, then, yes.

If your employment involved air transportation (you had to get on to public transport via airplane), and you wanted to keep your job, then, yes.

Same went with government buildings right down to, in the height of Covid, if you wanted to buy a bottle of wine to have an evening at home with your spouse, social distancing from the rest of the world, you had to show your proof of vaccinations, etc…

It was crazy weird times. Need to go to a bank…better have proof of vaccination, etc…

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[Tecumsehsbones]

So, no. Thanks.

 

[petros]

So, no. Thanks.

A free choice would have no consequences.

Stick to pizza.

 

[55Mercury]

OTTAWA, ON — In a country-wide broadcast this week, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau denied ever forcing COVID-19 vaccinations on Canadian citizens and also reminded the general public that Canada has always been at war with Eurasia.

"Ingsoc…I mean…the Liberal Party, would like to remind Canadian residents that just as we have never had peace with Euraisia, I also never ever told the public they had to be vaccinated or lose their jobs," Trudeau announced over Canada's network of in-home telescreens. "Let this serve as a reminder that anyone found in disagreement with this proclamation will be remitted immediately to the Ministry of Love for reeducation!"

Canadians reacted to the message with mixed emotions. "I could have sworn he mandated that all truckers entering the Canadian border had to be vaccinated or they would lose their commercial drivers' license," said Ottowa citizen Winston Smith, who was never heard from again.

Trudeau went on to say, "While not forcing anyone to get vaccinated, I chose to make sure all the incentives and all the protections were there to encourage Canadians to get vaccinated. Now let us begin the Two Minutes Hate towards Eurasia and the unvaccinated!"

As of press time, Trudeau's image was seen projected on the sides of buildings with the message "Justin Is Watching" scrawled underneath. Liberal Thought Police were on hand to gently remind skeptical residents they must comply or be lovingly starved and tortured to bring their beliefs in line with the Party.

is this what having your leg pulled feels like?

 

[Jinentonix]

So, no. Thanks.

Oh for sure. They had the choice. Take multiple experimental jabs or lose their ability to support their families. Isn't freedom of choice just wonderful?
Kind'a like a Mafia protection racket. They're not FORCING you to pay protection money but, ya know.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Oh for sure. They had the choice.

Yep. That's the great thing about having a written Constitution. Puts it right out there in black and white.

". . . nor shall any person be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law."

If ya don't have that reference, ya git weird notions like you have a right to your current job, or a right to drive cars on the public highways

You also apparently don't know the definition of "experimental," but it sure sounds cool.

 

[petros]

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[Ron in Regina]

Yep. That's the great thing about having a written Constitution. Puts it right out there in black and white.

". . . nor shall any person be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law."

If ya don't have that reference, ya git weird notions like you have a right to your current job, or a right to drive cars on the public highways

You also apparently don't know the definition of "experimental," but it sure sounds cool.

Nobody held strangers down in the streets and stab them with vaccination needles, but there wasn’t much choice in the matter.

If you want to shop for food, or pick up a prescription, you have to have proof of vaccination. If you worked in any federally regulated industry (transport for me, banking for my buddies wife, healthcare for my sister, etc…) you have to get vaccinated.

Yes, people could’ve quit their jobs and lost their livelihoods and their ability to pay their bills and their mortgages, etc… during very strange times that nobody in modern day had seen with a global pandemic shutting down….Pretty much everything for a while there.

People could’ve had somebody else do all of the grocery shopping and pick up every prescription and so on and so forth for them for an unknown period of time (at the time)…. But that’s just not realistic.

(So no, there was no Gestapo in the streets running around with hypodermic needles, but it’s not like we weren’t forced to get vaccinated. I willingly got 2+3 boosters.)

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Nobody held strangers down in the streets and stab them with vaccination needles, but there wasn’t much choice in the matter.

Yeah, and I imagine Canada, being as big as it is with such a low population, don't have a whole lot of choice with the "privilege" of driving a car.

If you want to shop for food, or pick up a prescription, you have to have proof of vaccination. If you worked in any federally regulated industry (transport for me, banking for my buddies wife, healthcare for my sister, etc…) you have to get vaccinated.

Was that a government mandate or the business choice of the stores? If the former, I disagree. It goes too far. If the latter, capitalism, yeah?

Yes, people could’ve quit their jobs and lost their livelihoods and their ability to pay their bills and their mortgages, etc… during very strange times that nobody in modern day had seen with a global pandemic shutting down….Pretty much everything for a while there.

People could’ve had somebody else do all of the grocery shopping and pick up every prescription and so on and so forth for them for an unknown period of time (at the time)…. But that’s just not realistic.

Why not? I did it for several neighbors.

(So no, there was no Gestapo in the streets running around with hypodermic needles, but it’s not like we weren’t forced to get vaccinated. I willingly got 2+3 boosters.)

Precisely. Was it a massive pain in the ass? I'm sure it was. Appears that Canada generally believes anything worth doing is worth overdoing. But there's a point at which "being forced" is kinda like "These days ya just can't. . ." Yes you can. But actions have consequences. Maybe if you don't like the consequences, you should reconsider taking (or not taking) the actions.

 

[Ron in Regina]

It was Government Mandated. My industry is federally regulated, so we got vaccinated…(personally, I would’ve done it anyway, but there wasn’t a choice).

Most were truly unhappy about the situation, but the reality is, they needed to earn a living. 27/28 got vaccinated. Probably 60% didn’t want to because they already drove for a year in the US unvaccinated (remember, Canada was a year behind the US in vaccinations because we were in bed with a China frost vaccines that never happened), so these Canadian truckers were the closest to Americans that you were going to find up here due to their US exposure.

We did have one driver (out of 28 at the time) that refused to get vaccinated, and he was put on a shelf load-less (so incomeless) for the duration.

One of the encouragements from our federal government even before the mandate, for my industry was, that anybody who crossed into the US (most drivers could do, depending on their destination, 1-2 loads/week) who did not have the vaccination, a mandatory 14 day quarantine away from their families before they could do another load. That’s not forcing them I guess…..but it was forcing them. Remember that whole Ottawa Honk Honk thing? All of a sudden, if not vaccinated….They could do one or maybe two loads in a month instead of 4-8 loads, and this was before the mandate came in.

 

[petros]

It was Government Mandated. My industry is federally regulated, so we got vaccinated…(personally, I would’ve done it anyway, but there wasn’t a choice).

We did have one driver (out of 28 at the time) that refused to get vaccinated, and he was put on a shelf load-less (so incomeless) for the duration.

One of the encouragements from our federal government even before the mandate, for my industry was, that anybody who crossed into the US (most drivers could do, depending on their destination, 1-2 loads/week) who did not have the vaccination, a mandatory 14 day quarantine away from their families before they could do another load. That’s not forcing them I guess…..but it was forcing them. Remember that whole Ottawa Honk Honk thing? All of a sudden, if not vaccinated….They could do one or maybe two loads in a month instead of 4-8 loads, and this was before the mandate came in.

Heros to zeros at the stroke of a pen.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

It was Government Mandated. My industry is federally regulated, so we got vaccinated…(personally, I would’ve done it anyway, but there wasn’t a choice).

Yeah, kinda like driving licenses.

Most were truly unhappy about the situation, but the reality is, they needed to earn a living. 27/28 got vaccinated. Probably 60% didn’t want to because they already drove for a year in the US unvaccinated (remember, Canada was a year behind the US in vaccinations because we were in bed with a China frost vaccines that never happened), so these Canadian truckers were the closest to Americans that you were going to find up here due to their US exposure.

We did have one driver (out of 28 at the time) that refused to get vaccinated, and he was put on a shelf load-less (so incomeless) for the duration.

One of the encouragements from our federal government even before the mandate, for my industry was, that anybody who crossed into the US (most drivers could do, depending on their destination, 1-2 loads/week) who did not have the vaccination, a mandatory 14 day quarantine away from their families before they could do another load. That’s not forcing them I guess…..but it was forcing them. Remember that whole Ottawa Honk Honk thing? All of a sudden, if not vaccinated….They could do one or maybe two loads in a month instead of 4-8 loads, and this was before the mandate came in.

Not saying I agree with what your government did. I oppose any government pressure beyond advice. I think the only way to get stupid people to get vaccinated is to let the death and disability toll pile up until only the most hard-core True Believers can continue to deny reality. I voluntarily took every vax going, masked, and used my "social distancing stick" (six feet of hickory) to measure, and enforce as needed, distancing.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Yeah, kinda like driving licenses.

Or Banks, or air traffic controllers, or the stock market, etc…yeah, I hear you. Drivers Licenses are State or Provincial.

Not saying I agree with what your government did. I oppose any government pressure beyond advice. I think the only way to get stupid people to get vaccinated is to let the death and disability toll pile up until only the most hard-core True Believers can continue to deny reality. I voluntarily took every vax going, masked, and used my "social distancing stick" (six feet of hickory) to measure, and enforce as needed, distancing.

Ironically, in the first year that we were behind America in getting getting vaccines, not one of our drivers contacted COVID-19. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

Once vaccinated, in the next year, most of them got it at least once. I’m sure it’s probably some strange coincidence but it’s a strange coincidence…

I’m twice vaccinated, and 3xboosted, & had an average of 5 drivers/day roll through my office (I had zero vaccinations for more than the first year ‘cuz they where not available up here) daily so 25/week, all through COVID, and they where fresh up from Indiana on their way to making their deliveries….& I never did (as far as I know) catch COVID (unless I’m one of the weird zero symptoms people).

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I'm genuinely happy you came through it clean. And I think governments overreacted to what was, for most people, a relatively mild disease.

But anti-vax notions bother me. Some really nasty, and fatal or permanently disabling diseases are starting to stage a comeback. I'd really rather not see polio, or smallpox, or rubella make a comeback.

 

[petros]

Or Banks, or air traffic controllers, or the stock market, etc…yeah, I hear you. Drivers Licenses are State or Provincial.

Ironically, in the first year that we were behind America in getting getting vaccines, not one of our drivers contacted COVID-19. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

Once vaccinated, in the next year, most of them got it at least once. I’m sure it’s probably some strange coincidence but it’s a strange coincidence…

I’m twice vaccinated, and 3xboosted, & had an average of 5 drivers/day roll through my office (I had zero vaccinations for more than the first year ‘cuz they where not available up here) daily so 25/week, all through COVID, and they where fresh up from Indiana on their way to making their deliveries….& I never did (as far as I know) catch COVID (unless I’m one of the weird zero symptoms people).

You might not have noticed.