Just how great could Canada be if only...

[CDNBear]

If only the divide between the parties could be bridged. Is it so unheard of, to have political parties work for the best interests of the Nation? Why is it they must look outwardly opposed on the floor, yet smile and shake hands for photo ops?

Just think how amazing this Nation could be, if our pretty much three party system worked in unison to the betterment of the Nation, instead of the betterment of the party.

If you examine the views of the three main parties(apart from the NDP), they all have their simularities. The differences are not that far from each other either. The three parties could work together to ensure the checks and ballances remian, but work in such a manner, as to be a productive entity, not the stifling mess it is now. I for one am glad that there is no majority government at the moment. In the past majority governments have done more damage then good, IMHO. If we maintained three minority governements, but they chose to work with each other instead of working to topple the other, just think of the good that would benefit this once great Nation.

 

[eh1eh]

This has always been a dream of mine Bear, but it seems to be turning into a fantasy with every election.
The sad part is they seem to be there to kill time and make themselves look good so they can get re-elected and qualify for that sweet pension. I should have stayed in scool so I could go into politics and secure my retirment.

 

[CDNBear]

This has always been a dream of mine Bear, but it seems to be turning into a fantasy with every election.
The sad part is they seem to be there to kill time and make themselves look good so they can get re-elected and qualify for that sweet pension. I should have stayed in scool so I could go into politics and secure my retirment.

lol, I could agree with you more.

It would be an amazing country if it were to ever happen though, eh?

 

[PsyOp]

The sure thing is, i'm conservative and i won't ever be agree with the NPD.(or any other left-socialist party)
And i think the liberals have gone too far.

As for your dream, the U.S somehow did it. I mean both party in the U.S are almost agree for economic question.

 

[Tonington]

If only the divide between the parties could be bridged. Is it so unheard of, to have political parties work for the best interests of the Nation? Why is it they must look outwardly opposed on the floor, yet smile and shake hands for photo ops?

Just think how amazing this Nation could be, if our pretty much three party system worked in unison to the betterment of the Nation, instead of the betterment of the party.

If you examine the views of the three main parties(apart from the NDP), they all have their simularities. The differences are not that far from each other either. The three parties could work together to ensure the checks and ballances remian, but work in such a manner, as to be a productive entity, not the stifling mess it is now. I for one am glad that there is no majority government at the moment. In the past majority governments have done more damage then good, IMHO. If we maintained three minority governements, but they chose to work with each other instead of working to topple the other, just think of the good that would benefit this once great Nation.

Yah, it really is a shame how issues get twisted and contorted to some ideologies. I think a parliamentary system without political parties would be great, but that's not gonna happen any time in the near future. Also, votes should always be free, that's where the hijacking has takn place. Perhaps if a petition with enough signatures on it were produced, constituents could remove politicians who break their words.

Also, I agree 100% with the minority government sentiments Bear. Keeps things honest, moreso than a run-away government with long streaks of majority, blah.

 

[Sparrow]

If only the divide between the parties could be bridged. Is it so unheard of, to have political parties work for the best interests of the Nation? Why is it they must look outwardly opposed on the floor, yet smile and shake hands for photo ops?

Just think how amazing this Nation could be, if our pretty much three party system worked in unison to the betterment of the Nation, instead of the betterment of the party.

If you examine the views of the three main parties(apart from the NDP), they all have their simularities. The differences are not that far from each other either. The three parties could work together to ensure the checks and ballances remian, but work in such a manner, as to be a productive entity, not the stifling mess it is now. I for one am glad that there is no majority government at the moment. In the past majority governments have done more damage then good, IMHO. If we maintained three minority governements, but they chose to work with each other instead of working to topple the other, just think of the good that would benefit this once great Nation.

I agree 100% with you but this politican game is a big EGO trip. Also have you ever watched the House on their TV channel, they look like a bunch kids fighting in their back yard. We have a beautiful country now what we need are politicans that can run it as well as nature does. Maybe if their salaries were reduced we would get people that would take the job for the benefit of the country and not for their own inflated heads.

 

[tamarin]

Canadian political parties are intensely partisan. And with a purpose. They're long-grown, carefully tended, and relentlessy stuffed and fed to meet their key objective: to benefit their membership. The nation is an unapologetic club democracy: a system that exists to favour those who belong and pay dues to the organization. Stewardship of the country is second to stewardship of the faithful. I really don't know why we vote most elections. No one with self-respect is happy with this situation. Canadians want to be free. We want meaningful input into what governs our lives. Yet all about us is the prisonhouse of our 'democracy.'

 

[Said1]

If only it was warm and not 'bilingual'. I'll even pass on the french thing for better year round weather.

 

[tamarin]

Said, GW (Global Warming not George W!) promises you better times! Climate is only one area set for drastic change. As Canada begins to disintegrate in the years ahead and pushes out Beirut as the globe's new tribal hotspot, we'll see the emergence of area militias who will attempt to carve up territories to govern. It will solve the present impasse we have here but will introduce a new age of primitive ruthlessness. Smile. It's gonna be great!

 

[Said1]

Said, GW (Global Warming not George W!) promises you better times! Climate is only one area set for drastic change. As Canada begins to disintegrate in the years ahead and pushes out Beirut as the globe's new tribal hotspot, we'll see the emergence of area militias who will attempt to carve up territories to govern. It will solve the present impasse we have here but will introduce a new age of primitive ruthlessness. Smile. It's gonna be great!

Wooot! Canada goes tribal. As if.

Either way, I'm planning on those spare tires.

 

[L Gilbert]

If only the divide between the parties could be bridged. Is it so unheard of, to have political parties work for the best interests of the Nation? Why is it they must look outwardly opposed on the floor, yet smile and shake hands for photo ops?

Just think how amazing this Nation could be, if our pretty much three party system worked in unison to the betterment of the Nation, instead of the betterment of the party.

If you examine the views of the three main parties(apart from the NDP), they all have their simularities. The differences are not that far from each other either. The three parties could work together to ensure the checks and ballances remian, but work in such a manner, as to be a productive entity, not the stifling mess it is now. I for one am glad that there is no majority government at the moment. In the past majority governments have done more damage then good, IMHO. If we maintained three minority governements, but they chose to work with each other instead of working to topple the other, just think of the good that would benefit this once great Nation.

Coalition gov'ts have existed before. It won't work in Canada because Canadian politicians aren't very bright and have all the foresight of someone walking baclwards.

 

[tamarin]

We're almost at the point now that we're ungovernable. Good economic times have allowed us to gloss over our differences but more challenging times won't be as kind. The cult of diversity and difference, strange and weird as it is, is in charge. Its day is almost done and the damage accrued will tear the country apart in the future.

 

[darkbeaver]

We're almost at the point now that we're ungovernable. Good economic times have allowed us to gloss over our differences but more challenging times won't be as kind. The cult of diversity and difference, strange and weird as it is, is in charge. Its day is almost done and the damage accrued will tear the country apart in the future.

Could you elaborate on the accrued damage that will tear the country apart? I see no ungovernability
but more challenging times would test that belief. I see our diversity as an asset of no little importance, you seem to believe that an homogenous society is a positive thing, when all it represents to me is regression and stagnation and eventual cretinism.:wave:

 

[darkbeaver]

Tired of political partisanship are you?Tired of the squabbling in the chamber are you. Want your partys to work together do you? Well imperialism or monarchic or totalitarian dictatorships are what you want eh? Those are smooth operations no bickering at all.
For all it's circus like apperance the fighting and bickering is what makes it work, what the phuck good would an opposition party be if it did not object vociferously, that's it's job. That is the test that the loyal opposition is duty bound to conduct, it is supposed to pick apart the governments policy.
Or wait we could have the American system where both sides sleep with the same lobbyists and cooperate on virtually every bill that feeds the rich and the war machine.:laughing7::wave:

 

[Karlin]

It is sillyness to have an "opposition party" that is supposed to oppose whatever the government says.
But, that is what we have.

Just yesterday PM Harper had to face up to statements he had made a few years ago while 'in opposition'.

As for the USA' two parties agreeing, the danger there is that the Americans have two choices to vote for, and they are BOTH ON THE SAME SIDE [on the side of corporations instead of average citizens].

 

[Vicious]

I hope I'm missing the tongue in checkiness you are all using. A government where everyone agrees is not a good thing. The opposition party is very important to ensure that the government does the best job that it can do for the people. I know that watching this in practice often looks like watching kindergartners trying to share toys but the alternative is far worse.

Even a guilty man deserves a lawyer and even good policy deserves opposition.

 

[hermanntrude]

the collective noun for politicians is a conspiracy

 

[L Gilbert]

I hope I'm missing the tongue in checkiness you are all using. A government where everyone agrees is not a good thing. The opposition party is very important to ensure that the government does the best job that it can do for the people. I know that watching this in practice often looks like watching kindergartners trying to share toys but the alternative is far worse.

Even a guilty man deserves a lawyer and even good policy deserves opposition.

There's a difference between cooperation and everyone being in agreement. You are speaking of people that just disagree; the idea of people that cooperate is more like the idea of team. Not all the members have to agree but they should have the same goal in mind and work towards that goal together, not against each other all the time.

 

[eh1eh]

I hope I'm missing the tongue in checkiness you are all using. A government where everyone agrees is not a good thing. The opposition party is very important to ensure that the government does the best job that it can do for the people. I know that watching this in practice often looks like watching kindergartners trying to share toys but the alternative is far worse.

Even a guilty man deserves a lawyer and even good policy deserves opposition.

It seems our 'oposition party' opposes just because it is in their name. Even if the would be in agreement and do the same thing if they were in power they still oppose. Duplisitis hypocrites.

 

[Vicious]

But teams play other teams in the game, they oppose each other on the field and try to win. In your analogy there would be no game without the opposition. And overall, the game benefits from strong opposition.