Jesus Christ healed with marijuana

Reverend Blair

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I have read that there is NO evidence that Jesus ever existed...any "historical" writings that the apologists so desperately cling to are second or third party accounts of hearsay information...well after the Christ-cult had taken root in the middle-east...

There is, however, a decided lack of documentation by contemporaneous historians...

You are correct, at least mostly. There is one historian (Roman, I think) who refers to a Jewish holy man who healed people being crucified. I can't remember the historian's name and the reference is vague...it might have been Jesus or it might have been somebody else. There was also some doubt as to the veracity of the text it was found in. That's the only contemporaneous account I've ever heard of.

The reason most historians now agree that Jesus or a figure very much like him probably existed is because of inference. Usually stories of that size and power have some basis in fact. It is the same reason that many historians believe that there was likely an Arthur figure and a Merlin figure, a king who unified many tribes in ancient Britain (or possibly Germany) and a powerful Druid priest (likely in Wales), although few believe they would have existed at the same time.

Something interesting about the historical Jesus is that the Jews required their holy men to marry, so if Jesus did exist he was almost certainly married. Since the Bible makes reference to him kissing Mary Magadalene on the mouth, an act that could have gotten a single woman stoned, it would follow that she was likely his wife.

I wonder if she took marijuana for her menstrual cramps?
 

Reverend Blair

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I have read that there is NO evidence that Jesus ever existed...any "historical" writings that the apologists so desperately cling to are second or third party accounts of hearsay information...well after the Christ-cult had taken root in the middle-east...

There is, however, a decided lack of documentation by contemporaneous historians...

You are correct, at least mostly. There is one historian (Roman, I think) who refers to a Jewish holy man who healed people being crucified. I can't remember the historian's name and the reference is vague...it might have been Jesus or it might have been somebody else. There was also some doubt as to the veracity of the text it was found in. That's the only contemporaneous account I've ever heard of.

The reason most historians now agree that Jesus or a figure very much like him probably existed is because of inference. Usually stories of that size and power have some basis in fact. It is the same reason that many historians believe that there was likely an Arthur figure and a Merlin figure, a king who unified many tribes in ancient Britain (or possibly Germany) and a powerful Druid priest (likely in Wales), although few believe they would have existed at the same time.

Something interesting about the historical Jesus is that the Jews required their holy men to marry, so if Jesus did exist he was almost certainly married. Since the Bible makes reference to him kissing Mary Magadalene on the mouth, an act that could have gotten a single woman stoned, it would follow that she was likely his wife.

I wonder if she took marijuana for her menstrual cramps?
 

Frito lay

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Can anyone of you remember your birth? I have been told that life starts right after orgasm? Could this be true? where do all those poor little swimers go after the big bang theory....wait I got an idea would any of you like to come hold some signs and walk in protest. Is it a crime to waste those little spermies? Will God condem me? Can I repent and ask for forgivness? OK OK so I myself have killed many Billions of those poor little swimmers. I think it may be to late for me.
 

Frito lay

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Can anyone of you remember your birth? I have been told that life starts right after orgasm? Could this be true? where do all those poor little swimers go after the big bang theory....wait I got an idea would any of you like to come hold some signs and walk in protest. Is it a crime to waste those little spermies? Will God condem me? Can I repent and ask for forgivness? OK OK so I myself have killed many Billions of those poor little swimmers. I think it may be to late for me.
 

Frito lay

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Feb 9, 2005
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Can anyone of you remember your birth? I have been told that life starts right after orgasm? Could this be true? where do all those poor little swimers go after the big bang theory....wait I got an idea would any of you like to come hold some signs and walk in protest. Is it a crime to waste those little spermies? Will God condem me? Can I repent and ask for forgivness? OK OK so I myself have killed many Billions of those poor little swimmers. I think it may be to late for me.
 

BudBuddy

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Re: RE: Jesus Christ healed with marijuana

merryclaire said:
and i didn't read the first page of this thread, but if or if not Jesus actually smoked marijuana, and truthfully i find it extremely doubtful

Nothing like commenting on something you haven't even looked at.

I still can't think of any miracle story that had Jesus using anything but dirt/mud and his saliva for salve.

The four gospels in the modern bible were all written decades if not centuries after Jesus' death. So it seems likely that they have been modified and expanded over the years before they were written down. The "miraculous" aspects of the healing would have been played up, as were other later inventions, such as the virgin birth,
which isn't even mentioned in the gospels that come earlier.


Marijuana may also explain how he pulled the resurrection off, if it indeed happened, but that's a whole other thread.

That is indeed an interesting topic. Many people believe that Jesus used some sort of substance, possibly a cannabis extract, to fake his death on the cross.
 

BudBuddy

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Re: RE: Jesus Christ healed with marijuana

merryclaire said:
and i didn't read the first page of this thread, but if or if not Jesus actually smoked marijuana, and truthfully i find it extremely doubtful

Nothing like commenting on something you haven't even looked at.

I still can't think of any miracle story that had Jesus using anything but dirt/mud and his saliva for salve.

The four gospels in the modern bible were all written decades if not centuries after Jesus' death. So it seems likely that they have been modified and expanded over the years before they were written down. The "miraculous" aspects of the healing would have been played up, as were other later inventions, such as the virgin birth,
which isn't even mentioned in the gospels that come earlier.


Marijuana may also explain how he pulled the resurrection off, if it indeed happened, but that's a whole other thread.

That is indeed an interesting topic. Many people believe that Jesus used some sort of substance, possibly a cannabis extract, to fake his death on the cross.
 

BudBuddy

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Re: RE: Jesus Christ healed with marijuana

merryclaire said:
and i didn't read the first page of this thread, but if or if not Jesus actually smoked marijuana, and truthfully i find it extremely doubtful

Nothing like commenting on something you haven't even looked at.

I still can't think of any miracle story that had Jesus using anything but dirt/mud and his saliva for salve.

The four gospels in the modern bible were all written decades if not centuries after Jesus' death. So it seems likely that they have been modified and expanded over the years before they were written down. The "miraculous" aspects of the healing would have been played up, as were other later inventions, such as the virgin birth,
which isn't even mentioned in the gospels that come earlier.


Marijuana may also explain how he pulled the resurrection off, if it indeed happened, but that's a whole other thread.

That is indeed an interesting topic. Many people believe that Jesus used some sort of substance, possibly a cannabis extract, to fake his death on the cross.
 

merryclaire

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actually, in those times, jewish women & men were allowed to live together for a while, before marriage. i would assume to see if they suited. so in fact, it is possible that mary & joseph weren't even married, when jesus was conceived. of course, i forget that it was a miraculous conception and mary was a virgin. :)

also, wasn't mary magdalene (sp?) a floozie, a misbegotten woman, jesus took into his fold to protect? would a religious man hook up in a wedded way with such a woman 2000 yrs ago? do they do it now?
i mean, out in the open anyways.....

hey, what's that fuss
what's that fuss about
what's that fuss
what's that fuss about
 

merryclaire

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Feb 1, 2005
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actually, in those times, jewish women & men were allowed to live together for a while, before marriage. i would assume to see if they suited. so in fact, it is possible that mary & joseph weren't even married, when jesus was conceived. of course, i forget that it was a miraculous conception and mary was a virgin. :)

also, wasn't mary magdalene (sp?) a floozie, a misbegotten woman, jesus took into his fold to protect? would a religious man hook up in a wedded way with such a woman 2000 yrs ago? do they do it now?
i mean, out in the open anyways.....

hey, what's that fuss
what's that fuss about
what's that fuss
what's that fuss about
 

merryclaire

Electoral Member
Feb 1, 2005
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actually, in those times, jewish women & men were allowed to live together for a while, before marriage. i would assume to see if they suited. so in fact, it is possible that mary & joseph weren't even married, when jesus was conceived. of course, i forget that it was a miraculous conception and mary was a virgin. :)

also, wasn't mary magdalene (sp?) a floozie, a misbegotten woman, jesus took into his fold to protect? would a religious man hook up in a wedded way with such a woman 2000 yrs ago? do they do it now?
i mean, out in the open anyways.....

hey, what's that fuss
what's that fuss about
what's that fuss
what's that fuss about
 

tibear

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If you did any real research, you will find that there is plenty of research that proves that the man Jesus walked the earth some 2000 years ago. This is a given, even among non-Christians. The question revolves around his divinity. Jesus is as real as Mohamid.
 

tibear

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If you did any real research, you will find that there is plenty of research that proves that the man Jesus walked the earth some 2000 years ago. This is a given, even among non-Christians. The question revolves around his divinity. Jesus is as real as Mohamid.
 

tibear

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Jan 25, 2005
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If you did any real research, you will find that there is plenty of research that proves that the man Jesus walked the earth some 2000 years ago. This is a given, even among non-Christians. The question revolves around his divinity. Jesus is as real as Mohamid.
 

Just the Facts

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Re: RE: Jesus Christ healed with marijuana

tibear said:
What was wrong with you and why aren't you still helping them???

Who said I'm not? I just don't do it professionally anymore.

Simply the fact that you question, people that have religious believe regarding their helping the disadvantaged in our society shows your lack of knowledge on the subject.

I'm sorry, did I do that? I must have been sleep posting again.
 

Just the Facts

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Re: RE: Jesus Christ healed with marijuana

tibear said:
What was wrong with you and why aren't you still helping them???

Who said I'm not? I just don't do it professionally anymore.

Simply the fact that you question, people that have religious believe regarding their helping the disadvantaged in our society shows your lack of knowledge on the subject.

I'm sorry, did I do that? I must have been sleep posting again.
 

Just the Facts

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Oct 15, 2004
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Re: RE: Jesus Christ healed with marijuana

tibear said:
What was wrong with you and why aren't you still helping them???

Who said I'm not? I just don't do it professionally anymore.

Simply the fact that you question, people that have religious believe regarding their helping the disadvantaged in our society shows your lack of knowledge on the subject.

I'm sorry, did I do that? I must have been sleep posting again.