Israel has the right to defend its people. Hamas is Iran's bouncer
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You forgot to mention the Canadian puppets and the British puppets. If you've got fractional reserve banking you're a stupid puppet.
Not just technically. I have spent considerable time in the ME (including Iran) and understand how the system works. The evidence is more than circumstantial but, you need to understand how things operate over there to see it. To say that the Iranian government isn't behind this is like suggesting Ruhollah Musavi Khomeini had nothing to do with the US embassy takeover...it's was just a bunch of students after all.
There is nothing that can be said that Gopher would accept as proof.
Let's go back to Colpy's contention that ''The guy make a VERY good case that even the Arab gov't of Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon etc are very quietly hoping the Israerlis kick the shyte right out of Hamas.....they have come to realize the greatest threat in the region is not Israel, but Islamo-fascist organizations that are the tool of lunatic Islamist Iran''
Now let's take a closer at SANA which is the Syrian news agency. At present they have two sets of headlines in which the Assad government openly sympathizes with the Palestinians:
Syrian Arab news agency - SANA - Syria ::
Kuwait (George Bush's ally) openly supports Palestinians:
Syrian Arab news agency - SANA - Syria ::
Jordan supports Palestinians:
Jordan Times
I have yet to find any proofs that these governments secretly or otherwise want to see Hamas or any other group in Palestine defeated by the imperialistic Zionist regime.
Now let's take a closer at SANA which is the Syrian news agency. At present they have two sets of headlines in which the Assad government openly sympathizes with the Palestinians:
Syrian Arab news agency - SANA - Syria ::
Kuwait (George Bush's ally) openly supports Palestinians:
Syrian Arab news agency - SANA - Syria ::
Jordan supports Palestinians:
Jordan Times
I have yet to find any proofs that these governments secretly or otherwise want to see Hamas or any other group in Palestine defeated by the imperialistic Zionist regime.
''You asked for evidence. That is what I gave you. A thank you should be in order.''
Where is your evidence that the government of Iran has offered one million for the assassination of Mubarak?
In late January of last year Egypt and Iran normalized relations. Now ask yourself, why would the government of one call for the assassination of another when both are allied?
It is obvious that you do not understand the issues in that part of the world. Getting your information from the radical reich wing Fox warp factory will not correct your misunderstandings. The best thing for you to do is to go directly to those nations news services such as IRNA and SANA so that you get a truthful picture of what is going on.
Where is your evidence that the government of Iran has offered one million for the assassination of Mubarak?
In late January of last year Egypt and Iran normalized relations. Now ask yourself, why would the government of one call for the assassination of another when both are allied?
It is obvious that you do not understand the issues in that part of the world. Getting your information from the radical reich wing Fox warp factory will not correct your misunderstandings. The best thing for you to do is to go directly to those nations news services such as IRNA and SANA so that you get a truthful picture of what is going on.
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trusting the newsmedia to be objective, not misleading, comprehensively informative? roflmao
trusting the newsmedia to be objective, not misleading, comprehensively informative? roflmao
Saudi Arabia applauds the Zionists as Colpy says?
Here's first hand proof to the contrary:
Ministry of Foreign Affairs - Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
Note how the government specifically states that it ''supports Al Qods Fund in order to fight the Judaization to preserve the Arab and Islamic style of Al Qods and to enhance the Palestinian struggle in both Al Qods and other Palestinian Territories''.
Quick --- here is a question for all you of the ignorant far right who think you know all there is to know on the subject: what is the full meaning of this line above?
Hint: the answer COMPLETELY refutes the ideas stated in Colpy's article that was written by a Israeli Zionist.
Here's first hand proof to the contrary:
Ministry of Foreign Affairs - Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
Note how the government specifically states that it ''supports Al Qods Fund in order to fight the Judaization to preserve the Arab and Islamic style of Al Qods and to enhance the Palestinian struggle in both Al Qods and other Palestinian Territories''.
Quick --- here is a question for all you of the ignorant far right who think you know all there is to know on the subject: what is the full meaning of this line above?
Hint: the answer COMPLETELY refutes the ideas stated in Colpy's article that was written by a Israeli Zionist.
Bingo.
So why would you of the far right believe in the lies of the Fox network?
By the way, when has the Fox liars presented any evidence that Ahmadinejad's government ever offered one million for the assassination of its ally Mubarak?
Who said I am far right? lol
If I am far right, that'd put you past the reach of Chairman Mao's wife Lan Ping's left hand ...... somewhere in the vicinity of deep space.
Who said I believe Fox?
If I believe Fox, then you must believe that every word Stalin uttered was the ultimate, objective truth.
Concerning the evidence of Ahmamadjihad's reward, look for yourself. I am not your research assistant.
''look for yourself. I am not your research assistant''
That's OK -- I wouldn't enlist you to do that type of work for me as you know about as much as Colpy or Cannuck on the subject.
But you know as well as anyone here that if Ahmadinejad were ever to make such a proposal, it would gotten publicity all over the world. But neither you nor I nor anyone with any sense at all has ever heard of this absurdity up to now.
Why?
Simple. It's because radicals of the far right like to engage in name dropping and innuendo. They make up all kinds of stories, repeate them endlessly, and then call anyone who dares to disagree with them commies or Islamofascists. History shows that this is how the Nazis manufactured all type of consensus in Germany during Hitler's years.
Bottom line is that you have to have your brains stuck up your stink hole to believe Ahmadinejad ever made any such proposal.
That's OK -- I wouldn't enlist you to do that type of work for me as you know about as much as Colpy or Cannuck on the subject.
But you know as well as anyone here that if Ahmadinejad were ever to make such a proposal, it would gotten publicity all over the world. But neither you nor I nor anyone with any sense at all has ever heard of this absurdity up to now.
Why?
Simple. It's because radicals of the far right like to engage in name dropping and innuendo. They make up all kinds of stories, repeate them endlessly, and then call anyone who dares to disagree with them commies or Islamofascists. History shows that this is how the Nazis manufactured all type of consensus in Germany during Hitler's years.
Bottom line is that you have to have your brains stuck up your stink hole to believe Ahmadinejad ever made any such proposal.
First, you don't understand the difference between proof and evidence and now it would seem you have trouble distinguishing between countries with "normal relations" and countries that are "allies". It is very difficult to have a discussion with someone with such an limited understanding of the English language. But what the hell, I'm game.
That's pretty funny coming from someone that kind find dictionary.com on his computer.
I assume you mean Fox News. I find that Fox (and especially guys like O'Reilly) are just as much misinformed ideologues as you are.
The best thing you could do is to read as much news as possible, from as many sources as possible before making up your mind on any issue. I have followed IRNA and SANA quite a bit over the last number of years and still do to a lesser extent. I'm sure, were you able to read both the original version and the translated, you would realize that they are not always the same. That happens here in Canada as well.
You are looking sillier and sillier all the time Gopher. To suggest that SANA is any more or any less credible than Faux is laughable. You probably have a strong opinion on the National Enquirer as well.
Do you believe that everything a government states is the truth and that there is no hidden motives or secret agendas. I think you owe Bush an apology. :laughing5: :lol:
Sorry, but you are vastly unqualified to express any measurements on what I know.
Possibly, depends on the agenda of who spreads news. As I keep pointing out, newsmedia aren't particularly reliable. Apparently, that has not occurred to you yet.
Sounds like radicals of the far right are just like the radicals of the far left. Both are nutcases who belong in rubber rooms with striped sunlight.
.... and you just love to tell everyone what they should believe. So what's the essential diff between you and Chairman Mao, Hitler, Jim Jones, Pat Robertson, etc. ?
Oh of course, I mean Saudi Arabia buys off the US politicans, and the the USA buys off Israel.
But obviously its Israel pulling the strings, not Saudi Arabia :\
Yes it's faulty logic isn't it? How many lobbyists does Saudi Arabia have in the US and how many does Israel have in the US. The answer might give us a better picture of who has the greater influence.
Lobbyists beg politicians for their help.
Saudi Arabia has politicians begging them for help. There is a reason the secret service guard the Saudis and why the Saudis are the personal friends of US presidents.
And they seem to legitimately help out the USA too, in a mafia kind of way.
So let me get this straight...The governments of Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon are USA Israeli puppets? I thought the US was an Israelis puppet itself. Since the US controls the Afghanistan government, the Pakistani government, the Iraqi government all of NATO and Ed Stelmach, this means that Israel directly or indirectly controls much of the world. Them Israelis must have seriously big balls...and to think all this time I've been worried about Bush.