ISIS beheads British hostage Henning

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True, but having actually met a couple actual SAS NCO's and retired Officers. I have a good idea of their level of discipline.

BL's imagery is pulled from movies and drunken lore, not reality.

I just wonder why he thinks so poorly of them.?
I've met few ex spec forces too. They worked security for mining companies. Crazy dudes that hide in the trees to women who run things. They love what they do and won't do stupid sh-t to lose work that pays that much and gives them a high.
 

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So you would, what, turn the other cheek if someone were to commit a terrorist act in your home community? What I mostly get from you is that no matter what is done, it will be wrong.

You really do see conspiracies everywhere don't you? I'd lay real money that the ones who are acting and playing a role around here are no where near the people you think they are.
Rather than it be assumed that 'the act' was in retaliation of some crime your town had been part of or that it was not a false flag meant to get you to grab a pitch-fork and join the mob bent on revenge and it is only after the bodies are piled up that the lie was discovered.
The 3 teens that went missing had aircraft in the air within about 24 hours and the campaign was a month long. That was not an accident, nor was Israel practicing how to bomb runways for 2 years starting in about 1965 not part of the way the 1967 war started. Using the 'conspiracy' term puts the one mentioning the topic in a bad light and that is the reaction rather than the point about a lie being told and believed. If this is the world in which 'conspiracy theories' are mocked then it is the same as saying condemnation of lies is bad. I don't agree with that assessment, but at least as having that label let me make a determination on the validity of the statements of some of the posters. I would hope some are not as stupid as they appear here, for the known trolls that seek out certain topics so they can mock somebody will sometimes have a day where that plan didn't work too well. Rather than chalking it up and moving on they look for retaliation and that might not go ant better than the original confrontation.
If you want to shrink some people and thieri motive I would suggest you start with the ones making threads rather than the ones who make comments in them as being the ones who are showing the most when it comes to inner personalities. (not that reactions aren't telling by themselves. Change the term to lie and liars and the taste in the mouth isn't so bad. that pretty much breaks down the one and only defense liars have, distraction from the topic at hand.

I'd also bet that somebody like Gerry cannot fake it. Rather than bet give your list of 10 trolls (or less) as being intentional liars.
 

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I've met few ex spec forces too. They worked security for mining companies. Crazy dudes that hide in the trees to women who run things. They love what they do and won't do stupid sh-t to lose work that pays that much and gives them a high.

A buddy of mine worked overseas (Nigeria, through Russia, every 'Stan'
and throughout the Middle East) for many years 'till this spring. Sounds
like most of their security (a Texas based company) where Russian ex
-special forces. Highly trained, unemployed, & not interested in Mob work.
 

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Rather than it be assumed that 'the act' was in retaliation of some crime your town had been part of or that it was not a false flag meant to get you to grab a pitch-fork and join the mob bent on revenge and it is only after the bodies are piled up that the lie was discovered.

As much as you are telling me that I'm assuming it was an act, you are also assuming it was a false flag. I know you don't see it that way, but from my point of view, that's exactly what you are doing.


The 3 teens that went missing had aircraft in the air within about 24 hours and the campaign was a month long. That was not an accident, nor was Israel practicing how to bomb runways for 2 years starting in about 1965 not part of the way the 1967 war started.
I have no idea what you're talking about. If you're going to reference things in such a general manner, you'll need to explain the relevance. Because I thought we were discussing ISIS and the recent beheadings. Because I don't know the source of your reference, I can't assess the relevance to the topic at hand, so how can I reply?


Using the 'conspiracy' term puts the one mentioning the topic in a bad light and that is the reaction rather than the point about a lie being told and believed. If this is the world in which 'conspiracy theories' are mocked then it is the same as saying condemnation of lies is bad. I don't agree with that assessment, but at least as having that label let me make a determination on the validity of the statements of some of the posters. I would hope some are not as stupid as they appear here, for the known trolls that seek out certain topics so they can mock somebody will sometimes have a day where that plan didn't work too well. Rather than chalking it up and moving on they look for retaliation and that might not go ant better than the original confrontation.
What else would you call it? Your implication seemed to me to be that there are members here who aren't who they claim to be.

If you want to shrink some people and thieri motive I would suggest you start with the ones making threads rather than the ones who make comments in them as being the ones who are showing the most when it comes to inner personalities. (not that reactions aren't telling by themselves. Change the term to lie and liars and the taste in the mouth isn't so bad. that pretty much breaks down the one and only defense liars have, distraction from the topic at hand.
I'm not looking to shrink anybody. Nor am I looking for an argument, I'm really not. I am trying to understand who and what you're referencing, because it's not clear to me, it's really not. Is your implication that I am a liar? If so, than I know for a fact that I am not. What you choose to believe regarding that is, I guess, up to you.

I'd also bet that somebody like Gerry cannot fake it. Rather than bet give your list of 10 trolls (or less) as being intentional liars.
I am not going to start naming names of members, forget that. My only point was that I doubt highly the people we might suspect of being less than honest about themselves is the same for both of us.
 

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SLM< are you actually trying to engage in something intelligent there?

Think more like on duty as part of a South American Death Squad member and you just got drugged at some cheap bar. Who do you thing will even see the morning? Hey Meestor, meet my Seestor, $15.
Wow, you have a poor opinion of the good people of South America.

Islam has been Hijacked - YouTube

Good speech by Imam Adnan Ibrahim
You realize that we're talking about ISIS here, right?
 

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As much as you are telling me that I'm assuming it was an act, you are also assuming it was a false flag. I know you don't see it that way, but from my point of view, that's exactly what you are doing.
I see it as being an inside job, I also have more than a little bit of material that I have reviewed that leads me to have that opinion. I'd be more than happy to defend all those and offer a reason why I see your individual points as having some flaws that you aren't admitting to. The Liberty and the dead Egyptian soldiers in the desert are points that are swept under the rug if possible. I prefer a POV that is based on when that isn't the case. What good is a tainted view when you try and claim you represent the 'truthful version'.

I have no idea what you're talking about. If you're going to reference things in such a general manner, you'll need to explain the relevance. Because I thought we were discussing ISIS and the recent beheadings. Because I don't know the source of your reference, I can't assess the relevance to the topic at hand, so how can I reply?
That is what replies are for. It can focus a discussion. Most of the replies here should be the end of the discussions, most should never be made in the first place.

What else would you call it? Your implication seemed to me to be that there are members here who aren't who they claim to be.
That would include liars, ones that say one thing while knowing the facts don't support that opinion. There are the liars who hold one view because they lack any meaningful examination of the 'theory'. When you find a habitual liar in the news you know that all his statements after need to be examined to see if that same trait is found in them. It will be and there are only so may versions of a lie and most lies are not worth a lot of effort to establish. If you don't check out some themes you won't know which is a fact and which is a lie. You can have a basically honest person repeat a false claim, that doesn't make the false claim suddenly become real.
You can also be like Colpy who has his POV of 9/11 formed by 9/21 and it hasn't budged from that even though the 'facts' lead to a different conclusion. If I gave you a link to a vid and it altered your vision of 9/11 that means anything that came after would also have to re examined under the same light. If you own the press you get to use whatever colored light you want, there isn't much I can do about that other than form an opinion on how well I thing that is working out for me. (and you)

I'm not looking to shrink anybody. Nor am I looking for an argument, I'm really not. I am trying to understand who and what you're referencing, because it's not clear to me, it's really not. Is your implication that I am a liar? If so, than I know for a fact that I am not. What you choose to believe regarding that is, I guess, up to you.
Looking for motives should be part of any conversation just because some people intentionally push the buttons of others. It is easy to tell the accidents from the intentional and from that you should add that into your data base that is part of the 'quality' that should be part of all parts of life that come 'with options'.

I am not going to start naming names of members, forget that. My only point was that I doubt highly the people we might suspect of being less than honest about themselves is the same for both of us.
The question could answered by it would be easy to do a list or hard or no such list could be made. I go for classifying somebody as an idiot if I explain my view about a topic and the next conversation is a repeat of that one. Since this is a 'closed community' if you have said something 10 times most would know your view, does saying it 110 time increase the odds that you are right? No it doesn't. You don't have to be in the majority to be right.
 

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Good luck with that. I've spent countless hours, for not.
lol, not that I don't appreciate the sacrifice but do you think a few words from you can nullify the effects of croniv mold exposure? (being right would impress me, it always has in the past I don't see why that would change when fresher air is found)
 

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lol, not that I don't appreciate the sacrifice but do you think a few words from you can nullify the effects of croniv mold exposure?
Nope, but mold exposure explains a great many things.
 
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Trying. We'll see.
What is the Khorasan Group? - YouTube

Do a time stamp of the topics and label them F or T.
1:30 F To be in custody of the US for two years and then get out and start teaching others how to make bombs would suggest that in that missing 2 years you learned how to make bombs, along with all your other 'new skills' the whole time was 'training'. Have that happen to you twice and it is a career. Agree or Disagree?

I would say this new group is made up of members of the previous rebels who felt betrayed by ISIS getting newer and better toys and money and it is the West's intention to use these 'forgotten ones' as the root for the ones who takeover on the ground after US air strikes are 'finished'. Only they are actually being set up for the classic stab in the back that is the classic move from the West.

Nope, but mold exposer explains a great many things.
I found the meds were better if I got the fast acting kind and just gave them to whoever I had to deal with worked better than me taking them as the anger was actually quite justified all things considered.

http://en.ria.ru/military_news/2014...tonates-Herself-in-Islamic-State-Bastion.html
Want to bet that 'vest' that had to wiegh 50 Kilos was right next to the shiny new phone that came with her advancement to 'courier' and the signal was via a drone flying above as the US has the air for their exercise. Without Syrian co-op they would have needed some Arrow 3 stuff and that leaves traces by their being 'no traces' of the bomb.
 
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I found the meds were better if I got the fast acting kind and just gave them to whoever I had to deal with worked better than me taking them as the anger was actually quite justified all things considered.
That too makes a lot of sense.
 

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I see it as being an inside job, I also have more than a little bit of material that I have reviewed that leads me to have that opinion. I'd be more than happy to defend all those and offer a reason why I see your individual points as having some flaws that you aren't admitting to.

See you're representing yourself as having an opinion, while representing me as having flaws I'm not admitting to. If you want me to respect your opinion or POV then extending the same basic courtesy will get you farther in that and also get the conversation farther than that as well. Because right off the top that reads to me as antagonistic, meant to put me on the defense.

The Liberty and the dead Egyptian soldiers in the desert are points that are swept under the rug if possible. I prefer a POV that is based on when that isn't the case. What good is a tainted view when you try and claim you represent the 'truthful version'.
I don't claim to have any version, I observe the same as you do, the same as anyone does. And we bring to our observations the sum total of our experiences so that we may reach conclusions about what we are observing. The whole point in discussion is being able to bring other experiences into our own and grow from that.


That is what replies are for. It can focus a discussion. Most of the replies here should be the end of the discussions, most should never be made in the first place.
But replying can be difficult if one doesn't understand the scope of what they are replying to.

That would include liars, ones that say one thing while knowing the facts don't support that opinion. There are the liars who hold one view because they lack any meaningful examination of the 'theory'. When you find a habitual liar in the news you know that all his statements after need to be examined to see if that same trait is found in them. It will be and there are only so may versions of a lie and most lies are not worth a lot of effort to establish. If you don't check out some themes you won't know which is a fact and which is a lie. You can have a basically honest person repeat a false claim, that doesn't make the false claim suddenly become real.
You can also be like Colpy who has his POV of 9/11 formed by 9/21 and it hasn't budged from that even though the 'facts' lead to a different conclusion. If I gave you a link to a vid and it altered your vision of 9/11 that means anything that came after would also have to re examined under the same light. If you own the press you get to use whatever colored light you want, there isn't much I can do about that other than form an opinion on how well I thing that is working out for me. (and you)
But the thing I don't see you acknowledging is that unless the person views and reviews the information and comes to the conclusion that you have, then no examination has occurred and therefore everyone is just simply following what is told them. That is one broad sweeping judgement right there. Not only that but it is a discussion ender as well. Because then not only are you telling me what you think, but you're also telling me what I think too.


Looking for motives should be part of any conversation just because some people intentionally push the buttons of others. It is easy to tell the accidents from the intentional and from that you should add that into your data base that is part of the 'quality' that should be part of all parts of life that come 'with options'.
Looking for motives doesn't always have to part of a conversation. If you put out honesty, you'll get it back. If you put out judgment, then that's what you'll get back. Just because a select few may take advantage of someone who's honest, doesn't mean everyone will.

And you have to add to that the emotional heaviness of the topic in question as well.


The question could answered by it would be easy to do a list or hard or no such list could be made. I go for classifying somebody as an idiot if I explain my view about a topic and the next conversation is a repeat of that one. Since this is a 'closed community' if you have said something 10 times most would know your view, does saying it 110 time increase the odds that you are right? No it doesn't. You don't have to be in the majority to be right.
No you don't have to be in the majority to be right but being in the majority doesn't necessarily mean that you're wrong either. It just means you've come across a few more people that share your POV.

Way to go SLM, you are officially off my Hanukkah card list.

Hey you were off yapping with the townfolk at the Supersave, I had to talk to someone. ;)