Is Saddam innocent?

[FredBass]

My God, when will it end!

An Iraqi prison for children? Sure, it was built just down the street from the prison for the paraplegic unwed mothers prison, which is accross the street from the blind seniors prison. Can't we all just imagine the children running out and throwing flowers at the American G.I.s. This story was by the same people who scripted private Jessica's miraculous rescue. Pure Hollywood folks, and pure horsesh-t.

scott ritter's lieing then? the neocons thingk so, but about other things,

do you totlly accept the truth when he blasts bush about irqa then totally dismiss his claims of a children's prison? hes' beleivable about one thing but not another?

 

[Ocean Breeze]

My God, when will it end!

An Iraqi prison for children? Sure, it was built just down the street from the prison for the paraplegic unwed mothers prison, which is accross the street from the blind seniors prison. Can't we all just imagine the children running out and throwing flowers at the American G.I.s. This story was by the same people who scripted private Jessica's miraculous rescue. Pure Hollywood folks, and pure horsesh-t.

scott ritter's lieing then? the neocons thingk so, but about other things,

do you totlly accept the truth when he blasts bush about irqa then totally dismiss his claims of a children's prison? hes' beleivable about one thing but not another?

the "truth" is : "who the hell knows anything for a FACT??" The lies simply compound on themselves now...... no matter who is the lier. (but the liars award still goes to the bushregime.)....... as the US should know better........IF they were a civilized progressive society.

 

[Jo Canadian]

:roll: It's funny how during major conflicts that in order to whip the otherwise uninterested, docile, or critical public into action is to claim atrocities on children or even better babies by the enemy? These stunts were pulled on the first gulf war, vietnam, and even in WW2, and probably in other distant conflicts. I'm sure we all remember Iraqis kicking over incubators in Kuwait eh?

:x You know most of that is Bullshit, but what really bugs me is that there are current conflicts being reported on that are really Fu*king up children by kidnapping them and forcing them into fighting, sex, or both. Where's the critisism for these guys? What? They don't have oil or something of value?

link, link, and link

 

[Ocean Breeze]

:roll: It's funny how during major conflicts that in order to whip the otherwise uninterested, docile, or critical public into action is to claim atrocities on children or even better babies by the enemy? These stunts were pulled on the first gulf war, vietnam, and even in WW2, and probably in other distant conflicts. I'm sure we all remember Iraqis kicking over incubators in Kuwait eh?

:x You know most of that is Bullshit, but what really bugs me is that there are current conflicts being reported on that are really Fu*king up children by kidnapping them and forcing them into fighting, sex, or both. Where's the critisism for these guys? What? They don't have oil or something of value?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/189505.stm, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/930732.stm, and http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2772575.stm

it should be a fecking crime to publicize the kind of BS the US does ......as then the sheeple continue to be an uninformed , and dumbed down population. ....who defends the indefensible.

 

[moghrabi]

My God, when will it end!

An Iraqi prison for children? Sure, it was built just down the street from the prison for the paraplegic unwed mothers prison, which is accross the street from the blind seniors prison. Can't we all just imagine the children running out and throwing flowers at the American G.I.s. This story was by the same people who scripted private Jessica's miraculous rescue. Pure Hollywood folks, and pure horsesh-t.

scott ritter's lieing then? the neocons thingk so, but about other things,

do you totlly accept the truth when he blasts bush about irqa then totally dismiss his claims of a children's prison? hes' beleivable about one thing but not another?

Ritter has his own agenda like all others.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

AMMAN, Jordan - Some 1,100 Iraqi lawyers have withdrawn from Saddam Hussein's defense team, citing insufficient protection following the slayings of two peers representing co-defendants of the ousted Iraqi leader.


In a statement obtained Sunday, the lawyers did not say whether Saddam's chief Iraqi attorney, Khalil al-Dulaimi, was among those who withdrew. But the statement said other members of the team in Baghdad were continuing their duties "under complex and dangerous circumstances."

Support lawyers for Saddam's team in Jordan were not immediately available for comment.

However, the head of the investigative judges in Saddam's dozen cases, Raid Juhi, said Sunday the withdrawal of the defense team "will not affect the work of the court and it will continue its legal measures."

"Suspending the members is not acceptable in Iraqi law," Juhi told The Associated Press by telephone. "The court will continue to give legal consultation through naming defense lawyers in case the defense team does not show up" on Nov. 28, when the trial resumes, Juhi said.

"The defense lawyers chosen by the country can ask the court to postpone the trial until they study the case, then the court will study any such demand," Juhi said. "We have many legal experts and lawyers and it will choose who will defend."

Saddam and seven co-defendants are on trial in a special Iraqi tribunal, charged in the 1982 deaths of 148 Shiite Muslims in Dujail after an assassination attempt against Saddam in that town north of Baghdad.

The 1,100 lawyers repeated their call for canceling the trial in Iraq, which opened Oct. 19. The lawyers do not recognize the Nov. 28 date for its scheduled resumption.

The lawyers said they pulled out because "there was no response from the Iraqi government, U.S. forces and international organizations to our demands for providing protection to the lawyers and their families," according to the statement released Saturday in Baghdad.

The lawyers have been unable to carry out their defense tasks, including contacting witnesses and preparing defense argument, because of "organized, intentional and systematic threats," the statement said.

Two Iraqis defending Saddam's colleagues have been killed since the trial started.

Adel al-Zubeidi, lawyer for former Vice President Taha Yassin Ramadan, died Tuesday when bullets were sprayed into his car in a largely Sunni Arab neighborhood of western Baghdad. The shots also wounded Thamir al-Khuzaie, attorney for another co-defendant, Saddam's half brother Barazan Ibrahim.

Al-Zubeidi was gunned down three weeks after the kidnap-slaying of defense lawyer Saadoun al-Janabi. His body was found Oct. 20, one day after the trial's opening session, where he had represented Awad al-Bandar, a former Baath Party official.

After the killing of the first lawyer, defense attorneys announced they would not cooperate with the court and would refuse to appear at the next session until they were satisfied with security.

Laith Kubba, spokesman for Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari, said the lawyers twice turned down invitations to move to the Green Zone, where they could be protected by U.S. and other international troops.

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seems that this is another critical situation where the US refuses to consider reason.......and is bent on having its own way for its own agenda......(whatever in hell it might be) The two deaths ( to date) are the result of the US actions...... regardless of who did the actual killing. Does america give a damn?? Of course not! When they set thier sites on someone.......all scruples and good sense flies out the window......and they act like the reptilians with bared teeth .................that they are.

how sad to see them pretend to be civilized.

SH is probably guilty of a lot of things.......but the usregime is not much "better".....the only difference is that the usregime had a more efficient spin dr.

 

[moghrabi]

The only difference OB is that the US regime can get away with it. At least so far been getting away with it.

 

[jimmoyer]

The two deaths ( to date) are the result of the US actions...... regardless of who did the actual killing.
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This is the kind of thinking carried to the extreme creates a whole new set of mistakes. We should never forget who does the actual deed, despite all our other righteousness on the subject.

 

[Reverend Blair]

Do you have proof that it wasn't the US doing the killing, Jimmy?

 

[jimmoyer]

No, but neither do you have proof.

But there are so many suspects that would want Saddam and his lawyers killed that to go through the labyrnth of conjecture is too laborious and tedious to tend to our individual prejudices on the matter.