Iraqi Elections: The Facade

[Paranoid Dot Calm]

Oh!

The new strategy inside Iraq is "Reach Out".

Every mouth-piece in TV Land is now claiming that Iraq has a bright future because of having the chance to vote.
Even though the vote was cast on ethnic and religious affiliations, the NewsPresenters are now saying that all problems are solved because Iraqis' are gonna "Reach Out" now.

it's quite interesting to know that the US can't account for how many civilian deaths there have been in Iraq but they already know that 64% of Iraqis' voted!

Chuckle Chuckle!

Calm

 

[Paranoid Dot Calm]

Oh!

The new strategy inside Iraq is "Reach Out".

Every mouth-piece in TV Land is now claiming that Iraq has a bright future because of having the chance to vote.
Even though the vote was cast on ethnic and religious affiliations, the NewsPresenters are now saying that all problems are solved because Iraqis' are gonna "Reach Out" now.

it's quite interesting to know that the US can't account for how many civilian deaths there have been in Iraq but they already know that 64% of Iraqis' voted!

Chuckle Chuckle!

Calm

 

[no1important]

The media is manipulated and told or only allowed to show certain things.

How you ask? Just like how China kept the Chinese people through their media quiet about the death of their former Premeir and how America kept the Stealth Bomber quiet for 10 years before telling the public. It is apparently not that hard to control or manipulate the press.

 

[no1important]

The media is manipulated and told or only allowed to show certain things.

How you ask? Just like how China kept the Chinese people through their media quiet about the death of their former Premeir and how America kept the Stealth Bomber quiet for 10 years before telling the public. It is apparently not that hard to control or manipulate the press.

 

[no1important]

The media is manipulated and told or only allowed to show certain things.

How you ask? Just like how China kept the Chinese people through their media quiet about the death of their former Premeir and how America kept the Stealth Bomber quiet for 10 years before telling the public. It is apparently not that hard to control or manipulate the press.

 

[Paranoid Dot Calm]

Yuh know;

I was watching an interview last night and where a military historian tried to put things in perspective.

He said that Iraq is now like the Wild West was and when Buffalo Bill was in charge.
He said that people want "order" and that "law" is secondary. That community leaders went out and got a "hired gun" and called him a sheriff .... and basically said that he was to do whatever it took to get "order" and only after that did people discuss "law" and began to say that "maybe we could slow down on the killing" and they enacted laws so that justification was needed to kill.
But, before that, people were quite content to see Wild Bill and The Boys maintain "order".

Maybe the US had it all figured out. Knowing that if they got rid of all the government departments and military .... that chaos would hit the country ..... and thus the Iraqi People would then be more concerned about "order" and not "law". That the Iraqi People would go along with the killing because of the need for "order".

And, that is how America is selling this war to the world.
NewsPresenters are talking about "order" and not "legalities".

Anyways ...

Meet The New Leader Of Iraq.

In The Name of Allah the Merciful, the Compassionate
Grand Ayatullah Sistani (long may he live)
http://www.sistani.org/html/eng

 

[Paranoid Dot Calm]

Yuh know;

I was watching an interview last night and where a military historian tried to put things in perspective.

He said that Iraq is now like the Wild West was and when Buffalo Bill was in charge.
He said that people want "order" and that "law" is secondary. That community leaders went out and got a "hired gun" and called him a sheriff .... and basically said that he was to do whatever it took to get "order" and only after that did people discuss "law" and began to say that "maybe we could slow down on the killing" and they enacted laws so that justification was needed to kill.
But, before that, people were quite content to see Wild Bill and The Boys maintain "order".

Maybe the US had it all figured out. Knowing that if they got rid of all the government departments and military .... that chaos would hit the country ..... and thus the Iraqi People would then be more concerned about "order" and not "law". That the Iraqi People would go along with the killing because of the need for "order".

And, that is how America is selling this war to the world.
NewsPresenters are talking about "order" and not "legalities".

Anyways ...

Meet The New Leader Of Iraq.

In The Name of Allah the Merciful, the Compassionate
Grand Ayatullah Sistani (long may he live)
http://www.sistani.org/html/eng

 

[Paranoid Dot Calm]

Yuh know;

I was watching an interview last night and where a military historian tried to put things in perspective.

He said that Iraq is now like the Wild West was and when Buffalo Bill was in charge.
He said that people want "order" and that "law" is secondary. That community leaders went out and got a "hired gun" and called him a sheriff .... and basically said that he was to do whatever it took to get "order" and only after that did people discuss "law" and began to say that "maybe we could slow down on the killing" and they enacted laws so that justification was needed to kill.
But, before that, people were quite content to see Wild Bill and The Boys maintain "order".

Maybe the US had it all figured out. Knowing that if they got rid of all the government departments and military .... that chaos would hit the country ..... and thus the Iraqi People would then be more concerned about "order" and not "law". That the Iraqi People would go along with the killing because of the need for "order".

And, that is how America is selling this war to the world.
NewsPresenters are talking about "order" and not "legalities".

Anyways ...

Meet The New Leader Of Iraq.

In The Name of Allah the Merciful, the Compassionate
Grand Ayatullah Sistani (long may he live)
http://www.sistani.org/html/eng

 

[ElPolaco]

U.S. Encouraged by Vietnam Vote :
Officials Cite 83% Turnout Despite Vietcong Terror

by Peter Grose, Special to the New York Times (9/4/1967: p. 2)

WASHINGTON, Sept. 3-- United States officials were surprised and heartened today at the size of turnout in South Vietnam's presidential election despite a Vietcong terrorist campaign to disrupt the voting.

According to reports from Saigon, 83 per cent of the 5.85 million registered voters cast their ballots yesterday. Many of them risked reprisals threatened by the Vietcong.

The size of the popular vote and the inability of the Vietcong to destroy the election machinery were the two salient facts in a preliminary assessment of the nation election based on the incomplete returns reaching here.

 

[ElPolaco]

U.S. Encouraged by Vietnam Vote :
Officials Cite 83% Turnout Despite Vietcong Terror

by Peter Grose, Special to the New York Times (9/4/1967: p. 2)

WASHINGTON, Sept. 3-- United States officials were surprised and heartened today at the size of turnout in South Vietnam's presidential election despite a Vietcong terrorist campaign to disrupt the voting.

According to reports from Saigon, 83 per cent of the 5.85 million registered voters cast their ballots yesterday. Many of them risked reprisals threatened by the Vietcong.

The size of the popular vote and the inability of the Vietcong to destroy the election machinery were the two salient facts in a preliminary assessment of the nation election based on the incomplete returns reaching here.

 

[ElPolaco]

U.S. Encouraged by Vietnam Vote :
Officials Cite 83% Turnout Despite Vietcong Terror

by Peter Grose, Special to the New York Times (9/4/1967: p. 2)

WASHINGTON, Sept. 3-- United States officials were surprised and heartened today at the size of turnout in South Vietnam's presidential election despite a Vietcong terrorist campaign to disrupt the voting.

According to reports from Saigon, 83 per cent of the 5.85 million registered voters cast their ballots yesterday. Many of them risked reprisals threatened by the Vietcong.

The size of the popular vote and the inability of the Vietcong to destroy the election machinery were the two salient facts in a preliminary assessment of the nation election based on the incomplete returns reaching here.

 

[Mooseskin Johnny]

Yuh know;

I was watching an interview last night and where a military historian tried to put things in perspective.

He said that Iraq is now like the Wild West was and when Buffalo Bill was in charge.

That's prety much the way the native peoples saw it: occupied by a foreign power.

 

[Mooseskin Johnny]

Yuh know;

I was watching an interview last night and where a military historian tried to put things in perspective.

He said that Iraq is now like the Wild West was and when Buffalo Bill was in charge.

That's prety much the way the native peoples saw it: occupied by a foreign power.

 

[Mooseskin Johnny]

Yuh know;

I was watching an interview last night and where a military historian tried to put things in perspective.

He said that Iraq is now like the Wild West was and when Buffalo Bill was in charge.

That's prety much the way the native peoples saw it: occupied by a foreign power.

 

[passpatoo]

Re: RE: Iraqi Elections: The Facade

Then, not discussing how things should have been handled but where things now stand in Iraq, can the current situation be solved? I don't see any better step forward than the Iraqis speaking up for themselves.

Well some of them were able to anyway...

The reports out of the Globe and Mail and CTV show a 60% turnout (I'm not sure if that was all eligible voters, or just registered voters) That's about the same turnout we get here in Canada. Further to this, the election observers reported that there were a few irregularities but were overall very satisfied with the vote.

ElPolaco:

Your post is disconcerting. History repeating itself? Irregardless though, international observers qualified the voting adding ring of truth to what is being reported. And some of the reports I've been watching and reading on the election show just how determined the Iraqis were to cast thier vote.

I'm pretty sure that most of us here disagree strongly with the path taken to get to this point, but I still haven't seen any better suggestions to move in a better direction from this point forward than haveing an election with such a high turnout at the polls. If there could be some qualitative measurement added on to the voter turnout that would measure the determination of Iraqis to vote despite threats of death etc. I find it really hard to dispute these election results or process.

 

[passpatoo]

Re: RE: Iraqi Elections: The Facade

Then, not discussing how things should have been handled but where things now stand in Iraq, can the current situation be solved? I don't see any better step forward than the Iraqis speaking up for themselves.

Well some of them were able to anyway...

The reports out of the Globe and Mail and CTV show a 60% turnout (I'm not sure if that was all eligible voters, or just registered voters) That's about the same turnout we get here in Canada. Further to this, the election observers reported that there were a few irregularities but were overall very satisfied with the vote.

ElPolaco:

Your post is disconcerting. History repeating itself? Irregardless though, international observers qualified the voting adding ring of truth to what is being reported. And some of the reports I've been watching and reading on the election show just how determined the Iraqis were to cast thier vote.

I'm pretty sure that most of us here disagree strongly with the path taken to get to this point, but I still haven't seen any better suggestions to move in a better direction from this point forward than haveing an election with such a high turnout at the polls. If there could be some qualitative measurement added on to the voter turnout that would measure the determination of Iraqis to vote despite threats of death etc. I find it really hard to dispute these election results or process.

 

[passpatoo]

Re: RE: Iraqi Elections: The Facade

Then, not discussing how things should have been handled but where things now stand in Iraq, can the current situation be solved? I don't see any better step forward than the Iraqis speaking up for themselves.

Well some of them were able to anyway...

The reports out of the Globe and Mail and CTV show a 60% turnout (I'm not sure if that was all eligible voters, or just registered voters) That's about the same turnout we get here in Canada. Further to this, the election observers reported that there were a few irregularities but were overall very satisfied with the vote.

ElPolaco:

Your post is disconcerting. History repeating itself? Irregardless though, international observers qualified the voting adding ring of truth to what is being reported. And some of the reports I've been watching and reading on the election show just how determined the Iraqis were to cast thier vote.

I'm pretty sure that most of us here disagree strongly with the path taken to get to this point, but I still haven't seen any better suggestions to move in a better direction from this point forward than haveing an election with such a high turnout at the polls. If there could be some qualitative measurement added on to the voter turnout that would measure the determination of Iraqis to vote despite threats of death etc. I find it really hard to dispute these election results or process.

 

[Vanni Fucci]

Re: RE: Iraqi Elections: The Facade

The reports out of the Globe and Mail and CTV show a 60% turnout (I'm not sure if that was all eligible voters, or just registered voters) That's about the same turnout we get here in Canada. Further to this, the election observers reported that there were a few irregularities but were overall very satisfied with the vote.

60% of who???

 

[Vanni Fucci]

Re: RE: Iraqi Elections: The Facade

The reports out of the Globe and Mail and CTV show a 60% turnout (I'm not sure if that was all eligible voters, or just registered voters) That's about the same turnout we get here in Canada. Further to this, the election observers reported that there were a few irregularities but were overall very satisfied with the vote.

60% of who???

 

[Vanni Fucci]

Re: RE: Iraqi Elections: The Facade

The reports out of the Globe and Mail and CTV show a 60% turnout (I'm not sure if that was all eligible voters, or just registered voters) That's about the same turnout we get here in Canada. Further to this, the election observers reported that there were a few irregularities but were overall very satisfied with the vote.

60% of who???