I agree with Paranoid Dot Calm.
I also believe a civil war will start when the Americans leave or even before they leave.
I also believe a civil war will start when the Americans leave or even before they leave.
Iraqi Elections: The Facade
- Thread starter Paranoid Dot Calm
- Start date
Paranoid Dot Calm said:
It is reported that Iraq had a 60% turnout. What percentage of Canadians vote?
In America, only 62% of its eligible population is registered to vote. On the average, only 80% of those registered actually vote. Does this mean all elections in America are illegitimate?
You cannot bring yourself to cheer for freedom, can you? While freedom reigns in Iraq, jealousy reigns in Canada.
Paranoid Dot Calm said:
It is reported that Iraq had a 60% turnout. What percentage of Canadians vote?
In America, only 62% of its eligible population is registered to vote. On the average, only 80% of those registered actually vote. Does this mean all elections in America are illegitimate?
You cannot bring yourself to cheer for freedom, can you? While freedom reigns in Iraq, jealousy reigns in Canada.
Paranoid Dot Calm said:
It is reported that Iraq had a 60% turnout. What percentage of Canadians vote?
In America, only 62% of its eligible population is registered to vote. On the average, only 80% of those registered actually vote. Does this mean all elections in America are illegitimate?
You cannot bring yourself to cheer for freedom, can you? While freedom reigns in Iraq, jealousy reigns in Canada.
You cannot bring yourself to cheer for freedom, can you? While freedom reigns in Iraq, jealousy reigns in Canada.
I suspect voter turnout was higher in Iraq than America (or Canada) because ordinary people there recognize how special and important voting actually is... unlike complacent North Americans. Those going to the polls KNEW they could be risking death, but they went anyway. Some people here won't vote if it's snowing too hard.
Saying "freedom reigns" there is perhaps too generous though, they are still occupied by a foreign power, and every day run the risk of being killed by the US troops AND the guerrillas. And with some groups boycotting the election, the selection of candidates was not a truly representative choice. In answer to the Quebec analogy, if all of Quebec refused to participate in a Canadian election, it WOULD reduce the legitimacy of the outcome. But it would still be better than no election and rule by fiat.
I suspect voter turnout was higher in Iraq than America (or Canada) because ordinary people there recognize how special and important voting actually is... unlike complacent North Americans. Those going to the polls KNEW they could be risking death, but they went anyway. Some people here won't vote if it's snowing too hard.
Saying "freedom reigns" there is perhaps too generous though, they are still occupied by a foreign power, and every day run the risk of being killed by the US troops AND the guerrillas. And with some groups boycotting the election, the selection of candidates was not a truly representative choice. In answer to the Quebec analogy, if all of Quebec refused to participate in a Canadian election, it WOULD reduce the legitimacy of the outcome. But it would still be better than no election and rule by fiat.
You cannot bring yourself to cheer for freedom, can you? While freedom reigns in Iraq, jealousy reigns in Canada.
I suspect voter turnout was higher in Iraq than America (or Canada) because ordinary people there recognize how special and important voting actually is... unlike complacent North Americans. Those going to the polls KNEW they could be risking death, but they went anyway. Some people here won't vote if it's snowing too hard.
Saying "freedom reigns" there is perhaps too generous though, they are still occupied by a foreign power, and every day run the risk of being killed by the US troops AND the guerrillas. And with some groups boycotting the election, the selection of candidates was not a truly representative choice. In answer to the Quebec analogy, if all of Quebec refused to participate in a Canadian election, it WOULD reduce the legitimacy of the outcome. But it would still be better than no election and rule by fiat.
I suspect voter turnout was higher in Iraq than America (or Canada) because ordinary people there recognize how special and important voting actually is... unlike complacent North Americans. Those going to the polls KNEW they could be risking death, but they went anyway. Some people here won't vote if it's snowing too hard.
Saying "freedom reigns" there is perhaps too generous though, they are still occupied by a foreign power, and every day run the risk of being killed by the US troops AND the guerrillas. And with some groups boycotting the election, the selection of candidates was not a truly representative choice. In answer to the Quebec analogy, if all of Quebec refused to participate in a Canadian election, it WOULD reduce the legitimacy of the outcome. But it would still be better than no election and rule by fiat.
You cannot bring yourself to cheer for freedom, can you? While freedom reigns in Iraq, jealousy reigns in Canada.
I suspect voter turnout was higher in Iraq than America (or Canada) because ordinary people there recognize how special and important voting actually is... unlike complacent North Americans. Those going to the polls KNEW they could be risking death, but they went anyway. Some people here won't vote if it's snowing too hard.
Saying "freedom reigns" there is perhaps too generous though, they are still occupied by a foreign power, and every day run the risk of being killed by the US troops AND the guerrillas. And with some groups boycotting the election, the selection of candidates was not a truly representative choice. In answer to the Quebec analogy, if all of Quebec refused to participate in a Canadian election, it WOULD reduce the legitimacy of the outcome. But it would still be better than no election and rule by fiat.
I suspect voter turnout was higher in Iraq than America (or Canada) because ordinary people there recognize how special and important voting actually is... unlike complacent North Americans. Those going to the polls KNEW they could be risking death, but they went anyway. Some people here won't vote if it's snowing too hard.
Saying "freedom reigns" there is perhaps too generous though, they are still occupied by a foreign power, and every day run the risk of being killed by the US troops AND the guerrillas. And with some groups boycotting the election, the selection of candidates was not a truly representative choice. In answer to the Quebec analogy, if all of Quebec refused to participate in a Canadian election, it WOULD reduce the legitimacy of the outcome. But it would still be better than no election and rule by fiat.
This election was for TV Land. That is all.
Sistani made it a "sin" not to vote and the Kurds voted for a separate country.
Will the Iraqi people get to vote as to whether the US gets to put 14 military bases too?
The resistance is getting weapons which are more accurate.
They hit the embassy inside the green zone. A helicopter went down last week. A C-130 British plane is down this week. This could of been because they were shot down.
Things will only change when the US leaves. This vote was not a vote asking the Iraqi People if they agreed with the occupation.
And for America to claim otherwise is just for TV consumption.
Calm
Sistani made it a "sin" not to vote and the Kurds voted for a separate country.
Will the Iraqi people get to vote as to whether the US gets to put 14 military bases too?
The resistance is getting weapons which are more accurate.
They hit the embassy inside the green zone. A helicopter went down last week. A C-130 British plane is down this week. This could of been because they were shot down.
Things will only change when the US leaves. This vote was not a vote asking the Iraqi People if they agreed with the occupation.
And for America to claim otherwise is just for TV consumption.
Calm
This election was for TV Land. That is all.
Sistani made it a "sin" not to vote and the Kurds voted for a separate country.
Will the Iraqi people get to vote as to whether the US gets to put 14 military bases too?
The resistance is getting weapons which are more accurate.
They hit the embassy inside the green zone. A helicopter went down last week. A C-130 British plane is down this week. This could of been because they were shot down.
Things will only change when the US leaves. This vote was not a vote asking the Iraqi People if they agreed with the occupation.
And for America to claim otherwise is just for TV consumption.
Calm
Sistani made it a "sin" not to vote and the Kurds voted for a separate country.
Will the Iraqi people get to vote as to whether the US gets to put 14 military bases too?
The resistance is getting weapons which are more accurate.
They hit the embassy inside the green zone. A helicopter went down last week. A C-130 British plane is down this week. This could of been because they were shot down.
Things will only change when the US leaves. This vote was not a vote asking the Iraqi People if they agreed with the occupation.
And for America to claim otherwise is just for TV consumption.
Calm
This election was for TV Land. That is all.
Sistani made it a "sin" not to vote and the Kurds voted for a separate country.
Will the Iraqi people get to vote as to whether the US gets to put 14 military bases too?
The resistance is getting weapons which are more accurate.
They hit the embassy inside the green zone. A helicopter went down last week. A C-130 British plane is down this week. This could of been because they were shot down.
Things will only change when the US leaves. This vote was not a vote asking the Iraqi People if they agreed with the occupation.
And for America to claim otherwise is just for TV consumption.
Calm
Sistani made it a "sin" not to vote and the Kurds voted for a separate country.
Will the Iraqi people get to vote as to whether the US gets to put 14 military bases too?
The resistance is getting weapons which are more accurate.
They hit the embassy inside the green zone. A helicopter went down last week. A C-130 British plane is down this week. This could of been because they were shot down.
Things will only change when the US leaves. This vote was not a vote asking the Iraqi People if they agreed with the occupation.
And for America to claim otherwise is just for TV consumption.
Calm
I have wondered about that myself. I don't think they would ever admit it unless someone recorded it and came forward.
I have wondered about that myself. I don't think they would ever admit it unless someone recorded it and came forward.
I have wondered about that myself. I don't think they would ever admit it unless someone recorded it and came forward.
Oh!
The new strategy inside Iraq is "Reach Out".
Every mouth-piece in TV Land is now claiming that Iraq has a bright future because of having the chance to vote.
Even though the vote was cast on ethnic and religious affiliations, the NewsPresenters are now saying that all problems are solved because Iraqis' are gonna "Reach Out" now.
it's quite interesting to know that the US can't account for how many civilian deaths there have been in Iraq but they already know that 64% of Iraqis' voted!
Chuckle Chuckle!
Calm
The new strategy inside Iraq is "Reach Out".
Every mouth-piece in TV Land is now claiming that Iraq has a bright future because of having the chance to vote.
Even though the vote was cast on ethnic and religious affiliations, the NewsPresenters are now saying that all problems are solved because Iraqis' are gonna "Reach Out" now.
it's quite interesting to know that the US can't account for how many civilian deaths there have been in Iraq but they already know that 64% of Iraqis' voted!
Chuckle Chuckle!
Calm