Iran War. . . USA Up 2-0 in the First Period

[Tecumsehsbones]

Reluctantly, I support this move, with plenty of reservations. Allow me to elucidate. . .

Does Iran need to be hit? Yes. Certainly. Iran's intention to become a regional power is crystal clear. Iran's hostility to the West (in which I include Israel) is equally clear. We would get into it eventually, and the best time to strike is one hour before the enemy's alarm goes off.

Does Trump have the power to do this? Hard to say. The Constitution reserves to Congress the power "to declare War" (among other military-type actions). But what does "war" mean in this context? We have no intention of making Iran the fifty-whatever state. The USA wants a relatively stable, relatively friendly government there. Which is basically what a lot of Iranians want.

Further, it's kinda hard to pull a surprise attack with Congress debating about whether to do so for a month or two beforehand, or wanting to put it off until after the mid-term elections. The Framers of the Constitution were utterly unable to grasp the sheer speed of modern warfare. And telegraphing your intentions is just stupid.

I'm concerned about what we do after. I'd like a friendly, stable Iran too, but I'm not sure Prince Reza is the guy. On the other hand, you work with the tools you have. Either way, it's kinda wimpy to piss and moan about the Iranian regime, and then piss and moan when somebody takes it out. If I recollect right, France helped a bunch of rebels in the 1770s. I'm pretty sure France was motivated by a lot of concerns other than a principled love of FREEDUMB. But that worked out OK.

So here's me, dedicated Donny Dipshit-hater, provisionally approving of this move. I am deeply concerned about how we follow up, and it could turn into a complete fucking clown circus, but for now I'm holding fire until I see the next steps.

 

[Taxslave2]

Reluctantly, I support this move, with plenty of reservations. Allow me to elucidate. . .

Does Iran need to be hit? Yes. Certainly. Iran's intention to become a regional power is crystal clear. Iran's hostility to the West (in which I include Israel) is equally clear. We would get into it eventually, and the best time to strike is one hour before the enemy's alarm goes off.

Does Trump have the power to do this? Hard to say. The Constitution reserves to Congress the power "to declare War" (among other military-type actions). But what does "war" mean in this context? We have no intention of making Iran the fifty-whatever state. The USA wants a relatively stable, relatively friendly government there. Which is basically what a lot of Iranians want.

Further, it's kinda hard to pull a surprise attack with Congress debating about whether to do so for a month or two beforehand, or wanting to put it off until after the mid-term elections. The Framers of the Constitution were utterly unable to grasp the sheer speed of modern warfare. And telegraphing your intentions is just stupid.

I'm concerned about what we do after. I'd like a friendly, stable Iran too, but I'm not sure Prince Reza is the guy. On the other hand, you work with the tools you have. Either way, it's kinda wimpy to piss and moan about the Iranian regime, and then piss and moan when somebody takes it out. If I recollect right, France helped a bunch of rebels in the 1770s. I'm pretty sure France was motivated by a lot of concerns other than a principled love of FREEDUMB. But that worked out OK.

So here's me, dedicated Donny Dipshit-hater, provisionally approving of this move. I am deeply concerned about how we follow up, and it could turn into a complete fucking clown circus, but for now I'm holding fire until I see the next steps.

Dementa Donny really isn't part of the equasion, other than possibly being the first President in a generation to walk the talk.
This is taking out the trash, which the so called democracies should have done a couple of decades ago.
I only know two people from Iran, and am sure both will be estatic. One with for about 3 years told us quite a lot about life in a theocratic dicktatorship. He was jailed and beaten several times for speaking out. He called the religious leaders "The Crazies".

 

[spaminator]

potential terrorist attack in austin.

 

[petros]

Reluctantly, I support this move, with plenty of reservations. Allow me to elucidate. . .

Does Iran need to be hit? Yes. Certainly. Iran's intention to become a regional power is crystal clear. Iran's hostility to the West (in which I include Israel) is equally clear. We would get into it eventually, and the best time to strike is one hour before the enemy's alarm goes off.

Yes and no. Hostile to the west in what ways? Are the Arab principalities now the west?

Does Trump have the power to do this? Hard to say. The Constitution reserves to Congress the power "to declare War" (among other military-type actions). But what does "war" mean in this context? We have no intention of making Iran the fifty-whatever state.

It's a Special Military Operation. Who needs democratic decisions?

The USA wants a relatively stable, relatively friendly government there. Which is basically what a lot of Iranians want.

Contrary to popular belief they don't hate Americans or Jews. Both can and do live in Iran quite comfortably without fear.

It's more about what they don't want. They don't want to work 4 hours to buy a sandwich for example. Yeah it's that bad.

They want sanctions dropped, their BMWs, cheap imported food, a job in the fields they trained in and dignity back.

Sanctions did nothing to stop "the regime".

Further, it's kinda hard to pull a surprise attack with Congress debating about whether to do so for a month or two beforehand, or wanting to put it off until after the mid-term elections. The Framers of the Constitution were utterly unable to grasp the sheer speed of modern warfare. And telegraphing your intentions is just stupid.

Dude. March...Mars...God of War and toss a blood moon waxing.

It works for the mystic factions in Pharasaic Judaism(started in Persia) and Free Masonry.

I'm concerned about what we do after. I'd like a friendly, stable Iran too, but I'm not sure Prince Reza is the guy.

And neither is Al Qaeda like Syria

On the other hand, you work with the tools you have.

We the people..

Either way, it's kinda wimpy to piss and moan about the Iranian regime, and then piss and moan when somebody takes it out.

The pissers and moaners are pissing and moaning over the reasons and whose behalf.

If I recollect right, France helped a bunch of rebels in the 1770s. I'm pretty sure France was motivated by a lot of concerns other than a principled love of FREEDUMB. But that worked out OK.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. The French didn't want to lose Quebec, Acadia and Louisiana. Nothing to do with freedumb.

So here's me, dedicated Donny Dipshit-hater, provisionally approving of this move. I am deeply concerned about how we follow up, and it could turn into a complete fucking clown circus, but for now I'm holding fire until I see the next steps.

This was for Bibi. The last obstacle in the way of Greater Israel is Jordan

They are next!

 

[petros]

Dementa Donny really isn't part of the equasion, other than possibly being the first President in a generation to walk the talk.
This is taking out the trash, which the so called democracies should have done a couple of decades ago.
I only know two people from Iran, and am sure both will be estatic. One with for about 3 years told us quite a lot about life in a theocratic dicktatorship. He was jailed and beaten several times for speaking out. He called the religious leaders "The Crazies".

Same shit happens in Israel

 

[Ron in Regina]

"America has the most powerful military on earth, and the IRGC no longer has a headquarters," CENTCOM said.

As missiles continued to rain on Tehran, President Donald Trump said the war could go on for a month, telling the Daily Mail that "it's always been a four week process." (?? Then what??)

The US-Israeli campaign began Saturday with bombing that killed Iran's supreme leader. Iran has retaliated with missile and drone attacks on countries across the Middle East, with explosions reported in Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Oman and Israel. Iran's Revolutionary Guards announced its own "large-scale" attack as it launched missiles and drones at installations around the Gulf.

An attack on the central Israeli city of Beit Shemesh killed at least nine people, with others still missing, authorities said. The Pentagon reported that "three US service members have been killed in action and five are seriously wounded", adding several others had sustained minor shrapnel injuries and concussions.

Ali Larijani, the powerful head of Iran's Supreme National Security Council, declared: "Today we will hit them with a force that they have never experienced before." And Iran's President Masoud Pezeshkian declared the killing of Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei a "declaration of war against Muslims."

Ahhh….was expecting that to be honest.

Now we get to see, I guess, if Muslims as a group feel the same way. Iran's President Masoud Pezeshkian warned: "Iran considers it its legitimate duty and right to avenge the perpetrators and masterminds of this historic crime” but Iran isn’t representative of all Muslims.

Iran's first retaliatory strikes on Saturday hit all the Gulf states apart from Oman, which had sought to mediate US-Iran talks. On Sunday the country's commercial port of Duqm was hit by two drones, injuring a foreign worker, the Oman News Agency said. At least they won’t feel left out and neglected.

Three ships were also attacked in the Strait of Hormuz on Sunday, maritime security agencies said, after Iran had previously declared the strategic waterway was closed.

What Happens If Iran Shuts Down the Strait of Hormuz? — WIRED

The Strait of Hormuz is one of the most sensitive pressure points in the global economy. Conflict in Iran could put it at risk indefinitely.

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Iran's Revolutionary Guards claimed to strike the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln, but the Pentagon said the "missiles launched didn't even come close".

Trump, meanwhile, said that US military strikes had sunk nine Iranian naval vessels and partially destroyed its navy headquarters, but he also declared last June that He/They/Etc…had "completely and totally obliterated" Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities so trust but verify I guess.

Iran's retaliatory strikes in the Gulf have killed at least four people and wounded dozens of others. The UAE, where three people were killed, said it was withdrawing its ambassador from Iran and closing its embassy over the attacks.

In Iran, the Red Crescent said on Saturday evening that strikes had killed 201 people and injured hundreds more. Iran's judiciary confirmed that Ali Shamkhani, a top adviser to Khamenei, and General Mohammad Pakpour, the head of Iran's powerful Revolutionary Guards, were among those killed.

Russia warns of oil choke due to closure of Strait of Hormuz — Reuters

Russia's foreign ministry said on Sunday that the closure of the Strait of Hormuz to shipping could lead to significant disbalances on the global oil and gas markets.

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There is no alternative export system at comparable scale to the Strait of Hormuz. Saudi Arabia and the UAE operate bypass pipelines, but these cover only a portion of Gulf flows, while Iraq, Kuwait, and Qatar lack meaningful alternatives.

If the strait was “formally” closed, most oil exports from the Gulf would be cut off from the world almost immediately. Even if Saudi Arabia and the UAE pushed their alternative pipelines to the limit, analysts say about two-thirds of Gulf exports would still be stuck.

LNG markets would also be hit. Qatar, the world’s largest exporter of liquefied natural gas—a super-cooled form of natural gas shipped by tanker—depends almost entirely on the Strait of Hormuz to export its fuel.

Oil prices jump after ships attacked near Strait of Hormuz — BBC News

Experts have warned that a prolonged conflict could push global energy prices even higher.

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If the route were blocked, Asian buyers could lose their key suppliers within days. Asian economies such as Japan, South Korea, China, and India depend heavily on imported LNG to generate electricity so they could end up in a similar position to what America Trump has put Cuba into.

Getting oil from elsewhere, like the Atlantic, would mean longer shipping times and higher costs, potentially pushing prices even higher. Historical modeling suggests that sudden loss of Gulf supply could push oil prices sharply higher.

If that happens, the effects would likely reach global consumers quickly: higher gas prices, more expensive airline tickets, and rising transport costs that feed into the price of food and goods.

What Happens If Iran Shuts Down the Strait of Hormuz? — WIRED

The Strait of Hormuz is one of the most sensitive pressure points in the global economy. Conflict in Iran could put it at risk indefinitely.

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Does Iran need to be hit? Yes. Certainly. Iran's intention to become a regional power is crystal clear. Iran's hostility to the West (in which I include Israel) is equally clear. We would get into it eventually, and the best time to strike is one hour before the enemy's alarm goes off.

US, Israel defend strikes at UN as Iran alleges 'war crime' — AFP News

The United States and Israel on Saturday defended their attacks on Iran, which called resulting civilian deaths a "war crime" during an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council.

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Iran has “not formally” confirmed a block on the narrow waterway, which would be an unprecedented escalation in the region, but ships appear to be avoiding the strait after an attack on a ship off Oman, so does it matter if the closure has not been “formally” declared?

At least 150 tankers carrying crude, liquified natural gas and oil products had dropped anchor in open waters across the Gulf past the strait on Sunday, Reuters reported.

If the halt continues, it could block up to 15m barrels a day of crude oil from reaching their destinations.

In a worst-case scenario, experts have said oil market prices could surge from about $67 a barrel on Friday night to $100. This would spell trouble for many developed economies, including the US, that have struggled to shrug off the impact of inflation on growth and productivity. That has left households facing a cost of living crisis.

What is the strait of Hormuz and why is it crucial for oil supplies? — Guardian US

Effective closure of the narrow waterway could spell trouble for many developed economies

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Iran is home to the world’s fourth largest proven oil reserves, holding up to 170bn barrels of oil, or about 9% of all global crude. It is behind only Venezuela America, Saudi Arabia and Canada as the largest country by domestic oil reserves. It is the fourth largest oil producer in Opec and one of the largest crude exporters in the world. It also has the world’s second largest proven gas reserves, with about one-sixth of global gas.

 

[Taxslave2]

Same shit happens in Israel

Same shit happens in Israel

Except no one is ever jailed and killed for their religious believes in Israel. Even muslims, unless they are terrorists.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Three words: It's about time.

 

[Taxslave2]

As missiles continued to rain on Tehran, President Donald Trump said the war could go on for a month, telling the Daily Mail that "it's always been a four week process." (?? Then what??)

Tariffs.

 

[spaminator]

fighter jet crashed.

 

[spaminator]

potential terrorist attack in austin.

FBI probes Texas bar shooting that killed 2 as possible terrorist act
Police in Austin shot and killed the gunman, who also injured 14 others during attack

Author of the article:Associated Press
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Jack Myer, Alanna Durkin Richer, John Seewer And Kathleen Ronayne
Published Mar 01, 2026 • Last updated 6 hours ago • 3 minute read

FBI and local law enforcement perform an investigation at a bar in Austin, Texas.
In an aerial view, members of the FBI and local law enforcement patrol and perform an investigation after a mass shooting outside of Buford's bar in downtown on Sunday, March 1, 2026, in Austin, Texas. Three people are dead and 14 others are hospitalized following a mass shooting early Sunday morning. Photo by Brandon Bell /Getty Images
AUSTIN, Texas — A gunman wearing clothes with an Iranian flag design and the words “Property of Allah” killed two people and wounded 14 early Sunday at a Texas bar, a law enforcement official told The Associated Press. The FBI is investigating the shooting, which erupted a day after the U.S. and Israel launched an attack on Iran, as a potential act of terrorism.


Police in Austin shot and killed the gunman, who used both a pistol and a rifle to carry out the attack, police said.


The shooting happened outside Buford’s Backyard Beer Garden just before 2 a.m. along Sixth Street, a nightlife destination filled with bars and music clubs and only a few miles (kilometers) from the University of Texas at Austin.

Nathan Comeaux, a 22-year-old senior, had spent the evening there with friends and said the bar was “full of college students, probably mostly UT kids, shoulder to shoulder, hundreds just enjoying their nights.”

The suspect drove past the bar several times before stopping and shooting from the window of his SUV at people on a patio and in front of the bar, according to Austin Police Chief Lisa Davis.


He then parked, got out with a rifle and began shooting at people walking along the street before officers rushed to the intersection and shot him, Davis said. Three of the injured were in critical condition Sunday morning, she said.

The gunman was identified as 53-year-old Ndiaga Diagne, the Department of Homeland Security said in a statement.

Student witnesses gunfire
Comeaux had left the bar to grab pizza at a food truck across the street about 10 minutes before the first gunshots were fired. No one around the pizza truck understood what was happening, he said, with some thinking the noise was fireworks or a loud motorcycle.

Comeaux said he hid behind a bench for about a minute before getting out, and he saw police officers running toward the scene. He pulled out his phone to begin recording. That’s when more shots rang out. Comeaux said he saw the suspect turn his gun on police before officers shot him.


He said he knows someone who was shot and guessed that many other UT students do as well.

“The UT community has definitely been majorly affected by this,” he said.

FBI says attack may be terrorism
Authorities haven’t provided a clear motive for the attacks but found “indicators” on the gunman and in his vehicle leading them to look into the possibility of terrorism, said Alex Doran, the acting agent in charge of the FBI’s San Antonio office.

“It’s still too early to make a determination on that,” Doran said Sunday morning.

Diagne first entered the U.S in 2000 on a B-2 tourist visa and became a lawful permanent resident six years later after marrying a U.S. citizen, according to DHS. He became a naturalized U.S. citizen in 2013, the department said. Diagne was originally from Senegal, according to multiple people briefed on the investigation who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly discuss the investigation.


The White House said President Donald Trump had been briefed on the shooting.

Texas officials weigh in
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott warned that the state would respond aggressively to anyone trying to “use the current conflict in the Middle East to threaten Texas.”

University of Texas at Austin President Jim Davis said on social media that some of those affected included “members of our Longhorn family.”

“Our prayers are with the victims and all those impacted,” said university President Jim Davis.

The entertainment district has a heavy police presence on weekends, and officers were able to confront the gunman within a minute of the first call for help, Davis said.

Austin Mayor Kirk Watson praised the fast response by police and rescuers.


“They definitely saved lives,” he said.

There have been at least two other high-profile shootings in Austin’s Sixth Street entertainment district within the past five years, including one in the summer of 2021 that left 14 people wounded. Although this weekend’s shooting doesn’t meet the definition of a mass killing, there have been five of those so far this year.

— Seewer reported from Toledo, Ohio; and Durkin Richer from Washington and Ronayne from Sacramento, California. Associated Press writer Rebecca Santana in Washington and Olivia Diaz in Richmond, Virginia, contributed. Diaz is a corps member for The Associated Press/Report for America Statehouse News Initiative. Report for America is a nonprofit national service program that places journalists in local newsrooms to report on undercovered issues.

FBI probes Texas bar shooting that killed 2 as possible terrorist act

A gunman wearing clothes with an Iranian flag design and the words 'Property of Allah' killed two people and wounded 14 early Sunday.

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[Ron in Regina]

A gunman wearing clothes with an Iranian flag design and the words “Property of Allah” killed two people and wounded 14 early Sunday at a Texas bar, a law enforcement official told The Associated Press.

Hmmm…could be a coincidence?

 

[spaminator]

Iran War

operation epstein files distraction.

 

[petros]

Except no one is ever jailed and killed for their religious believes in Israel. Even muslims, unless they are terrorists.

Are you fucking serious?

 

[Ron in Regina]

Many Lebanese were angry that Hezbollah had pulled them into a new conflict with Israel, just 15 months after the last war that devastated swathes of the country. In a social media post, Prime Minister Nawaf Salam wrote that the rocket attacks on Israel were “an irresponsible and suspicious act that jeopardizes Lebanon’s security and safety and provides Israel with pretexts to continue its aggression.”

Hezbollah and Israel open new front in regional war — The Globe and Mail

Question hanging over Lebanon, Yemen and Iraq is whether Iranian proxies such as Hezbollah will join in the attacks

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Lebanon bans Hezbollah military actions after attack on Israel — Reuters

Lebanon's government on Monday banned military activities by Hezbollah after it opened fire on Israel to avenge the killing of Iran's supreme leader, a move likely to fuel tension with the Tehran-backed group as it faces a new Israeli offensive.

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[Tecumsehsbones]

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Many Lebanese were angry that Hezbollah had pulled them into a new conflict with Israel, just 15 months after the last war that devastated swathes of the country. In a social media post, Prime Minister Nawaf Salam wrote that the rocket attacks on Israel were “an irresponsible and suspicious act that jeopardizes Lebanon’s security and safety and provides Israel with pretexts to continue its aggression.”

Hezbollah and Israel open new front in regional war — The Globe and Mail

Question hanging over Lebanon, Yemen and Iraq is whether Iranian proxies such as Hezbollah will join in the attacks

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Lebanon bans Hezbollah military actions after attack on Israel — Reuters

Lebanon's government on Monday banned military activities by Hezbollah after it opened fire on Israel to avenge the killing of Iran's supreme leader, a move likely to fuel tension with the Tehran-backed group as it faces a new Israeli offensive.

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Good thing we have reliable allies.

 

[petros]

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Many Lebanese were angry that Hezbollah had pulled them into a new conflict with Israel, just 15 months after the last war that devastated swathes of the country. In a social media post, Prime Minister Nawaf Salam wrote that the rocket attacks on Israel were “an irresponsible and suspicious act that jeopardizes Lebanon’s security and safety and provides Israel with pretexts to continue its aggression.”

Hezbollah and Israel open new front in regional war — The Globe and Mail

Question hanging over Lebanon, Yemen and Iraq is whether Iranian proxies such as Hezbollah will join in the attacks

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Lebanon bans Hezbollah military actions after attack on Israel — Reuters

Lebanon's government on Monday banned military activities by Hezbollah after it opened fire on Israel to avenge the killing of Iran's supreme leader, a move likely to fuel tension with the Tehran-backed group as it faces a new Israeli offensive.

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Does Israel still occupy parts of Lebanon?

While Hezbollah is an Islamic Shia militant group, some Christians in Lebanon support it politically or live under its protection, particularly allies of its political partner, the Free Patriotic Movement. However, there are no known Christian combatants within Hezbollah’s armed wing, and many Christians oppose the group.
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Political Alliances: The Maronite Christian party, Free Patriotic Movement (founded by Michel Aoun), has been a key political ally of Hezbollah.
Protection and Stability: In areas like Dahiyeh (Beirut), some Christian families have found stability, security, and respect under Hezbollah’s control.
Opposition: Many Christians, especially within the Lebanese Forces party and the Kataeb Party, are strong critics of Hezbollah, particularly regarding its military actions and independent arsenal.
Mixed Views: Some Christians in South Lebanon have historically been caught between supporting the resistance against Israel and fearing the instability caused by Hezbollah’s actions.
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In summary, Christians are not members of the military wing but exist within the broader political and social sphere of influence of Hezbollah, with views ranging from support to strong opposition.
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Wouldn't it make sense for Christians to be enable in Lebanon rather than going to Hezzbollah?

 

[Ron in Regina]

Many Lebanese were angry that Hezbollah had pulled them into a new conflict with Israel…

Pulled them into a new conflict how? Probably not through prank phone calls.

Does Israel still occupy parts of Lebanon

Does it? If so then why? Due to being attacked by an Iranian proxy from Lebanon that Lebanon doesn’t have a firm grip on (?) or something more nefarious and conspirial?

 

[petros]

Pulled them into a new conflict how? Probably not through prank phone calls.

Same conflict on going for 58 year.

Does it? If so then why? Due to being attacked by an Iranian proxy from Lebanon that Lebanon doesn’t have a firm grip on (?) or something more nefarious and conspirial?

It does and no, Greater Israel has nothing to do with being attacked. Wake the fuck up

 

[Ron in Regina]

Pulled them into a new conflict how? Probably not through prank phone calls.

Same conflict on going for 58 year.

Ahhh…ok. I was confused by the…

Many Lebanese were angry that Hezbollah had pulled them into a new conflict with Israel, just 15 months after the last war that devastated swathes of the country.

So in the latest new chapter or episode of this ongoing goat rodeo, Hezbollah had pulled them (being Lebanon) into a new conflict with Israel…but they really meant the old same old etc…& not a new conflict?

Does Israel still occupy parts of Lebanon?

Does it? If so then why? Due to being attacked by an Iranian proxy from Lebanon that Lebanon doesn’t have a firm grip on (?) or something more nefarious and conspirial?

It does and no, Greater Israel has nothing to do with being attacked. Wake the fuck up

Ok, so “Many Lebanese were angry that Hezbollah had pulled them into a new conflict with Israel, just 15 months after the last war that devastated swathes of the country” has/had nothing to do with Hezbollah attacking Israel again and everything to do with greater Israel, and the timing of these two things (Hezbollah attack on Israel, & Israel responding back) is just a coincidence?