Iran dispute now in positive light

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TEHRAN, Iran - Iran and the United States had a rare moment of agreement Tuesday, using similar language to describe "positive steps" toward an accord on a package of incentives aimed at persuading Tehran to suspend uranium enrichment.

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Diplomats said the incentives include a previously undisclosed offer of some U.S. nuclear technology on top of European help in building light-water nuclear reactors. Other incentives include allowing Iran to buy spare airplane parts and support for joining the World Trade Organization.

Tehran is under intense international pressure to accept the deal in exchange for putting on hold a uranium enrichment program that the West fears could lead to the creation of nuclear weapons.

Iran's top nuclear negotiator, Ali Larijani, said the proposals had "positive steps" but that talks were needed to clear up ambiguities. Iran promised to study the proposals seriously, but gave no timeframe for a response.

And Bush, using the same language, said Iran's initial response "sounds like a positive step."

"We will see if the Iranians take our offer seriously," the president said in Laredo, Texas. "The choice is theirs to make. I have said the United States will come and sit down at the table with them so long as they are willing to suspend their enrichment in a verifiable way."

One diplomat in Vienna described the U.S. offer of nuclear technology as particularly significant because it would, in effect, loosen a decades-long American embargo on giving Iran access to "dual use" technologies — equipment with both civilian and military use.

Crucially, the deal does not demand that Iran outright give up its uranium enrichment program — only suspend it, although likely for a long time. Two earlier diplomatic initiatives by Europe and Russia crumbled over the past year because each demanded Iran scrap enrichment completely — a stumbling block because of the program's wide popularity with the Iranian public.

Iran's leaders fiercely defend their nuclear program as a source of intense national pride, and say the purpose of the enrichment program is to create fuel for electricity — not nuclear weapons, as the U.S. claims.

Enrichment is the centerpiece of a nuclear program that the Iranian government has touted as a technological achievement, proving Iran is on a level with developed Western nations. Iran has dismissed past demands that it give up its right to enrichment as an arrogant insult from Western nations afraid of a high-tech Muslim nation. But it has signaled it would accept some limits.

For the West, enrichment is the center of fears over Iran's intentions. Enrichment can produce either material for a nuclear warhead or fuel for a nuclear reactor.

The latest proposal was revealed a week after Washington changed strategy on Iran and — in an apparent acknowledgment that it lacked support for sanctions against the Islamic republic — conceded to entering into direct talks with Iran under certain conditions. The latest proposal appeared to be even more of a concession on the Bush administration's part — a major attempt to sweeten the package for Iran in a bid to win concessions over the nuclear program.

Most importantly, the United States is now offering to provide Iran some nuclear technology, diplomats in Vienna told The Associated Press. They spoke on condition of anonymity in exchange for discussing some details of the package.

It had been known that the deal included European offers of help in building light-water nuclear reactors for a peaceful energy program. But there had previously been no suggestion the Americans would also agree to help build a nuclear program for a country they frequently paint as a threat to world security.

John Wolfsthal, a nonproliferation analyst at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, said any such offer would be tied to strict monitoring conditions.

"Iran has to be fully compliant in terms of inspectors on site, cameras and tracking equipment," Wolfsthal said. "All that is standard operating procedure with countries with light-water reactors."

In Washington, State Department Sean McCormack declined to go into specifics of the proposal. He said diplomacy "is at a sensitive stage" and the United States wants Iran to have a chance to review the proposal without having it discussed publicly.

He refused to offer a time frame, but said the Iran's timetable to consider the package was "weeks, not months."

Asked about reports that the offer of Western technology includes U.S. technological assistance, McCormack said: "Well, I've seen a lot of reports flying around the past couple days about what may or may not be in this package. I would just caution everybody, until we actually are able to discuss what is in the package in public, take reports with a grain of salt."

U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity in exchange for discussing details, said that the United States and Europe agreed to back Iran's membership in the World Trade Organization,

The United States would also lift some sanctions — including allowing Iran to buy the much-needed airplane parts — and join with Europeans in direct negotiations with Iran over the future of Iran's nuclear program.

Diplomats said Monday that the United States additionally agreed to open the door for Europe to sell Tehran new Airbus planes. Iran's commercial fleet is largely made up of Boeings purchased before the 1979 revolution, and Tehran frequently complains that the U.S. ban on parts has undermined safety. U.S. pressure has also prevented Iranian attempts to purchase new Airbus aircraft.

European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana presented the package to Iranian officials Tuesday in Tehran.

"The proposals contain positive steps and also some ambiguities, which must be removed," Larijani said afterward.

Larijani did not identify the ambiguities but said he discussed them with Solana and that more talks would be required. "We hope we will have negotiations and deliberations again after we have carefully studied the proposals," he said.

Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki said Iran would give the proposals "careful study" and then "we will inform our friends of Iran's views."

Solana said of the meeting: "I have a feeling that it has been very, very constructive," and said the two sides would have more contacts in the coming days.

In the talks, Solana also "carried a message" about potential penalties if Iran refuses the offer. But he withheld telling the Iranians the specific threats — including the possibility of U.N. sanctions — so as not to jeopardize the "positive" atmosphere, said one diplomat in Vienna.

If Tehran does not accept, the package threatens Iran with a travel ban against its ruling religious leaders and government officials involved in the nuclear program, plus a freeze of Iranian financial assets abroad, U.S. officials and diplomats in Vienna have said.

The current package's lack of a demand for scrapping enrichment entirely could prove key, said Iranian political analyst Mostafa Kavakebian, who predicted Iran would accept temporary suspension of uranium enrichment but would reject any permanent halt.

In past days, Iranian leaders have combined tough talk with signals that they are open to a deal — perhaps an attempt to portray to the Iranian public that they remain firm, even as they consider reversing their refusal to suspend enrichment

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Jo Canadian

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PEI...for now
 

darkbeaver

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RE: Iran dispute now in p

There is absolutly no way possible to suspend the planned destruction of Iran. Even were Iran to suspend all activitys with respect to nuclear developement it would not prevent what must happen if the United States is to remain the power in the region. Remember this empire does not have a reverse gear it cannot shift and change direction, it must have control of the region, it doesn't matter how many have to die.
 

aeon

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Guys, dont forget, iran, arent controlled by western banks, afganisthan, wasnt, and iraq wasnt, none of those wars were justified, iran is just a matter of time.
 

Jay

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So now it's the Western Banks fault....I didn't know that.
 

DurkaDurka

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Re: RE: Iran dispute now in positive light

aeon said:
Guys, dont forget, iran, arent controlled by western banks, afganisthan, wasnt, and iraq wasnt, none of those wars were justified, iran is just a matter of time.

Does it make you feel better that Iran is run by a nut bar Ayatollah?
 

dekhqonbacha

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Re: RE: Iran dispute now in positive light

DurkaDurka said:
aeon said:
Guys, dont forget, iran, arent controlled by western banks, afganisthan, wasnt, and iraq wasnt, none of those wars were justified, iran is just a matter of time.

Does it make you feel better that Iran is run by a nut bar Ayatollah?

What is wrong with it if Iran is run by Ayatollahs?
 

DurkaDurka

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RE: Iran dispute now in p

There would be nothing wrong with an Ayatollah running the country if they were not calling for the destruction of Israel & the West every other week. Not to mention him supporting domestic polices which allow gays to be hung & Adulterers to be stoned.
 

aeon

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Re: RE: Iran dispute now in positive light

DurkaDurka said:
aeon said:
Guys, dont forget, iran, arent controlled by western banks, afganisthan, wasnt, and iraq wasnt, none of those wars were justified, iran is just a matter of time.

Does it make you feel better that Iran is run by a nut bar Ayatollah?


Yes he is a nut cases, but i think, if nothing happen like a war, he will be removed in the next election.
 

BitWhys

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Re: RE: Iran dispute now in positive light

dekhqonbacha said:
What is wrong with it if Iran is run by Ayatollahs?

For starters the rat bastards managed to squirrel away over a hundred billion in oil money off the books. When Ahmadinejad figured it out and promised to get to the bottom of the scandal their stock market tanked.

now THAT'S capital flight :lol:
 

shannon

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Jersay said:
TEHRAN, Iran - Iran and the United States had a rare moment of agreement Tuesday, using similar language to describe "positive steps" toward an accord on a package of incentives aimed at persuading Tehran to suspend uranium enrichment.

Trusting Iran with nuclear weapons is so ludicrous that it's ridiculous even discussing the topic. Iran's nuclear program should be brought to a complete stop with or without force.

How in the world can we possibly allow nuclear weapons to a government affiliated with terrorism? Very recently the Iranian leader has said that he's proud of the terrorist activities of Hezbollah, a known terrorist group. Not to mention that Iran (and Syria) had provided most of the rockets to Hezbollah.

It is comical to even suggest that a government supplying ammunition and support to a terrorist organization can possess nuclear weapons.
 

Graeme

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Re: RE: Iran dispute now in positive light

aeon said:
DurkaDurka said:
aeon said:
Guys, dont forget, iran, arent controlled by western banks, afganisthan, wasnt, and iraq wasnt, none of those wars were justified, iran is just a matter of time.

Does it make you feel better that Iran is run by a nut bar Ayatollah?


Yes he is a nut cases, but i think, if nothing happen like a war, he will be removed in the next election.

Man what the F&&K are you smoking. This is just stupidity!!ELECTION?? You nut, there aren't really elections! PLEASE go move to Iran and save of from your brainless puke.
 

Graeme

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Now that I have that off my chest.

This won't work out anyway, even if they make the agreement I predict another war in Iran, because of there support of terrorist orginizations and there quest to rid the world of Israel, especially with their supreme leader Ali Khamenei. (I forgot to mention the more radical Mahmoud Ahmadinejad)

I think the whole middle east will soon attack Israel who will do an amazing job of defending themselves and then the wrath of the western world will come down on all of the offending nations. I will do the best I can to support that fight and to see an end to the Hezbollah, Hamas Nations of the middle east.