Interesting Conservative Candidate

TenPenny

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Why is ignatieff giving an interview to someone who supported beating Dusanjj?

I'm seriously thinking of voting Green, FFS.

Only because I think it's absolutely important to vote.

The two 'mainstream' parties have both shown that they support terrorists.
 

Corduroy

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I'd like to know if the CBSC came down on this guy for praising terrorists on Canadian radio and television. Don't get me wrong, I'd like it when the arms length government censor decides to allow free speech (I'd like it even better if they ceased to exist) but if they were going to ban "faggot" from the radio, did they say anything about celebrating terrorists?
 

PoliticalNick

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Why is ignatieff giving an interview to someone who supported beating Dusanjj?

I'm seriously thinking of voting Green, FFS.

Only because I think it's absolutely important to vote.

The two 'mainstream' parties have both shown that they support terrorists.

You forgot about the NDP..give Jacko a chance.
 

PoliticalNick

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1- I don't trust Harper, I think his fiscal policies are unsound and he will try to lead us into a corporatized, americanized way of life and govt
2- I don't trust Iggy, he is just a slightly watered down version of Harper
3- Both Libs & Cons have proven, after lengthly terms of controlling govt, that they can both screw our country equally well.
4- I think our system is broken and Jack is the only one who might actually do something about it.
5- Jack stays more on the issues and doesn't get involved in the usual attack style politics

Basically I just trust him more and think it's time for a change.
 

JLM

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1- I don't trust Harper, I think his fiscal policies are unsound and he will try to lead us into a corporatized, americanized way of life and govt
2- I don't trust Iggy, he is just a slightly watered down version of Harper
3- Both Libs & Cons have proven, after lengthly terms of controlling govt, that they can both screw our country equally well.
4- I think our system is broken and Jack is the only one who might actually do something about it.
5- Jack stays more on the issues and doesn't get involved in the usual attack style politics

Basically I just trust him more and think it's time for a change.

One important difference with Jack, no matter what he says he will never be any more than the leader of a third string party and what makes him less credible is he knows it! :smile:
 

CDNBear

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1- I don't trust Harper, I think his fiscal policies are unsound and he will try to lead us into a corporatized, americanized way of life and govt
I don't like Harper because he hasn't been transparent. He pandered to Quebec. He hides from the press. He has his people toss the electorate out of his events. And there's actually a list that Tonnington posted, that covers it pretty good.
2- I don't trust Iggy, he is just a slightly watered down version of Harper
I don't think so, he has a green thumb, but like his platform, it's numb. But besides that, I'll vote for the Liberals again, when hell freezes over.
3- Both Libs & Cons have proven, after lengthly terms of controlling govt, that they can both screw our country equally well.
I can't agree, both have actually done somethings that I think have benefited Canada. Military spending, standing by Israel, keeping terrorist fund raisers out of Canada, Gay rights, and so on.
4- I think our system is broken and Jack is the only one who might actually do something about it.
I think the system is fine, it's the operators that are messed up, and Taliban Jack, is one of them.
5- Jack stays more on the issues and doesn't get involved in the usual attack style politics
There's a list of videos on youtube that say otherwise.
Basically I just trust him more and think it's time for a change.
I don't trust any of them and yes, it is time for a change.
 

PoliticalNick

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....a third string party....

That attitude right there my friend is why we will never see a change in this country. You just don't get it do you. The Libs & Cons are almost the same and none of it has been working for 40 years but as long as they can keep you believing they are the ony 2 parties who can win that's how it will remain.
 

CDNBear

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That attitude right there my friend is why we will never see a change in this country. You just don't get it do you. The Libs & Cons are almost the same and none of it has been working for 40 years but as long as they can keep you believing they are the ony 2 parties who can win that's how it will remain.
You aren't the first person I've seen say they're almost the same.

Can you be specific as to how?
 

JLM

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That attitude right there my friend is why we will never see a change in this country. You just don't get it do you. The Libs & Cons are almost the same and none of it has been working for 40 years but as long as they can keep you believing they are the ony 2 parties who can win that's how it will remain.

Hold on, Nick- It doesn't really matter how I see them, over the past twenty years they've had anywhere from 9 to about 35 seats and can't seem to break through that category. So right now I think I'm quite correct in referring to them as a third string party. I voted N.D.P. in every election from the 1960s to 1990s so there has never been a more loyal supporter of them than I was for 30 years. :smile:
 

PoliticalNick

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I don't like Harper because he hasn't been transparent. He pandered to Quebec. He hides from the press. He has his people toss the electorate out of his events. And there's actually a list that Tonnington posted, that covers it pretty good.
I agree, I also think he is a totally into corporatization and globalization so I totally rule him out.
I can't agree, both have actually done somethings that I think have benefited Canada. Military spending, standing by Israel, keeping terrorist fund raisers out of Canada, Gay rights, and so on.
I can agree with spending on defence but not on offence. Standing behind Israel, forget it, I don't think we should support that one bit. Neither one has ecer addressed the true fiscal problems which are debt based currency and fractional reserve banking.

I think the system is fine, it's the operators that are messed up, and Taliban Jack, is one of them.
I think if the system can allow what we have as a govt today it is broken. The operators work within the system. I have posted more than once the Alberta high court ruling about the lack of legal obligation to the constituents and this is a huge problem.

You aren't the first person I've seen say they're almost the same.

Can you be specific as to how?
Both parties are far more interested in gaining and keeping power than in anything else and both have done little for anyone other than their base once in power, both have flawed fiscal policy and a general lack of concern for the individual people and future generations.
 

CDNBear

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I agree, I also think he is a totally into corporatization and globalization so I totally rule him out.
Have you read Layton's platform?

I can agree with spending on defence but not on offence. Standing behind Israel, forget it, I don't think we should support that one bit. Neither one has ecer addressed the true fiscal problems which are debt based currency and fractional reserve banking.
I think a thread on banking would be fun.

I think if the system can allow what we have as a govt today it is broken. The operators work within the system. I have posted more than once the Alberta high court ruling about the lack of legal obligation to the constituents and this is a huge problem.
But we managed top build a country on this system.

Both parties are far more interested in gaining and keeping power than in anything else and both have done little for anyone other than their base once in power, both have flawed fiscal policy and a general lack of concern for the individual people and future generations.
Have you read Layton's platform?
 

Cobalt_Kid

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What a dysfunctional family we are. What bothers me is this, if its a Conservative
everyone assumes that the whole party is involved or feels a certain way. If a
Liberal Candidate says something stupid, like not all sexual offenders should go to
jail, the Conservatives then attempt to paint all candidates in the Liberal Party are
all of a sudden soft on crime. A Green Party candidate who has obviously eaten to
much organic granola, says women should enjoy being raped in certain circumstances
then we should assume that all Greens approve of the statement. What is coming for
the NDP, oh for years others have painted them all as being Communists which is also
nonsense.
When are we going to grow up and understand that some people slip through a screening
process and become an embarrassment to an organization? When you are dealing with
somewhere near sixteen hundred candidates, applying for somewhere near four hundred
seats in Parliament there are bound to be some flakes in the mix. It is appropriate to raise
our eyebrows and not vote for someone who is not ready for society let alone to be our
representative in government. I hold that, we as people all have family members in our own
circle, that we do not want others to know we are related. So be it in the Canadian family,
we are as a group related, as Canadians whether we like it or not, and as dysfunctional as we
are.
It is better we stick to the issues before us and find someone else to vote for than to be focused
on someone who is stupid and miss the real business at hand. Remember beauty fades but
stupid is forever. It is obvious, this person does not represent the view of the Greens, about the
rape comment. It is also true that someone may have been a member, or a sympathiser of a
group with links to terrorism, that does not mean the Conservative Party is approving of such an
action. Secondly it does say something is lacking in their screening process, and some action
needs to be taken, like explaining the facts before the confusion envelopes them.
We have heard all kinds of people who are stupid, or ignorant make all kinds of statements like those
above, or the Liberal in New Brunswick that made some nasty statements about Natives in his
Province. At the same time there are natives running as Candidates in the Liberal Party, so we
know they don't all feel the way that single person expressed them self.
Its time we grew up and condemned a single stupid statement and stop painting everyone in a
particular party with the same brush.

I guess I tend to be less forgiving of a party and government like the conservatives that has been so self-righteous and yet when they've had a chance to put their money where their mouth is inevitably fail to live up to their own overblown rhetoric.
 

Cannuck

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1- I don't trust Harper, I think his fiscal policies are unsound and he will try to lead us into a corporatized, americanized way of life and govt
2- I don't trust Iggy, he is just a slightly watered down version of Harper
3- Both Libs & Cons have proven, after lengthly terms of controlling govt, that they can both screw our country equally well.
4- I think our system is broken and Jack is the only one who might actually do something about it.
5- Jack stays more on the issues and doesn't get involved in the usual attack style politics

Basically I just trust him more and think it's time for a change.

Interesting that the first four items were reasons not to support the other parties and not really reason for Layton. The last was just ridiculous. You obviously weren't paying attention during the debates. Jack was the king of attack politics during the Hinglish Dabate.

...You just don't get it do you. The Libs & Cons are almost the same and none of it has been working for 40 years ....

I disagree. Canada is the best place in the world to live. Generally speaking, the Libs/Cons have done a pretty good job over the last 40 years. Mind you, that doesn't mean they are going to be great over the next 40.