Indigenous Peoples' Mistreatment Has Become The World's #1 Problem

[MHz]

A native person in Africa might decline shoes if the asshole with the machete is disarmed. John Deere may not like it but if the families 1st tractor is an elephant I'm sure it will still be looked on as a step in the right direction

Including the subject granted rights.

Comrade, You have the required permission slip I trust.

 

[petros]

Nobody has mineral Rights. You don't own the land so how the f-ck can you own what is below it?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

You’re absolutely right! Only slave races children and women are allowed whimpering.

Everybody's allowed whimpering. Men don't do it.

 

[MHz]

Isn't your line, 'Let my people go!'?

 

[Curious Cdn]

Hopefully you'll quit whimpering one day. Poor you. Poor, poor you. You're so oppressed.

Me too! I'm a victim too!

By the way, I was at an Anglican church service last week and before the Anglican liturgy started to grind on,the presiding Canon pointed out that the church was standing on ceded land of the Mississauga Credit First Nations. What a couple of us said under our breath is that they, in turn, picked it up for free when the moved into Wyandotte territory and found them all dead of smallpox and massacre at the hands of Confederacy warriors.

It's like a Russian doll, this history and it ain't simple us-and-them straight forward.

 

[PoliticalNick]

Nobody has mineral Rights. You don't own the land so how the f-ck can you own what is below it?

Not exactly true Pete. There are still a few homesteads in Canada where allodial rights are currently held but very few. If the property gets sold instead of inherited directly then it changes to a freehold title but any that have been passed down since before the BNA will still be allodial title, not fee simple. I believe the BNA 1867 and the Consolidated Constitution Act 1982 both tried to remove any remaining allodial titles granting all sub-surface rights to the crown (provinces) but the legal question is can they grant what isn't rightfully theirs at the time? This has yet to be decided in any high court so remains unanswered, the government of course simply proceeds as if it is law and usurps control of the sub-surface resources whether the land owner likes it or not.

All reserves in Canada have always been assumed to be allodial but that again hasn't stopped the government from exploiting the resources.

Isn't your line, 'Let my people go!'?

He's an injun...not a jew!

Me too! I'm a victim too!

By the way, I was at an Anglican church service last week and before the Anglican liturgy started to grind on,the presiding Canon pointed out that the church was standing on ceded land of the Mississauga Credit First Nations. What a couple of us said under our breath is that they, in turn, picked it up for free when the moved into Wyandotte territory and found them all dead of smallpox and massacre at the hands of Confederacy warriors.

It's like a Russian doll, this history and it ain't simple us-and-them straight forward.

Lets not forget how the current 'indigenous' people actually crossed the land bridge about 15,000 years ago whereupon they found and slaughtered the Beringians who crossed over in the previous ice age 25,000 years ago. Unlike the Europeans though the 'first (well second really) nations' committed total genocide and claimed the land as theirs.

 

[petros]

Lost to the Charter.

 

[MHz]

He's an injun...not a jew!

I'm aware of that, he isn't.
What's your point??

 

[PoliticalNick]

I'm aware of that, he isn't.
What's your point??

Apparently it's the top of your head.

 

[MHz]

Lets not forget how the current 'indigenous' people actually crossed the land bridge about 15,000 years ago whereupon they found and slaughtered the Beringians who crossed over in the previous ice age 25,000 years ago. Unlike the Europeans though the 'first (well second really) nations' committed total genocide and claimed the land as theirs.

You can change a Chinese person into North American Indian in 15,000 Years. You have some skulls that show the transition yes??

Native American origins: When the DNA points two ways - LA Times

Apparently it's the top of your head.

I feel so owned, not.

 

[Bar Sinister]

You can change a Chinese person into North American Indian in 15,000 Years. You have some skulls that show the transition yes??

Native American origins: When the DNA points two ways - LA Times


I feel so owned, not.

Who stated that Amerindians originated in China? There was no China 15000 years ago, just a bunch of wandering tribes. There is evidence that a number of Asian tribes somehow found their way from Asian to North America. However, they may not have been related to the Chinese at all, but to an entirely different nomadic people.

"Great Surprise"—Native Americans Have West Eurasian Origins



"Great Surprise"?Native Americans Have West Eurasian Origins

 

[Angstrom]

Everybody's allowed whimpering. Men don't do it.

Double standards are good .

 

[spaminator]

Treaties with Indigenous Peoples to be included in revised citizenship oath
Stephanie Levitz, THE CANADIAN PRESS
First posted: Thursday, September 28, 2017 08:04 AM EDT | Updated: Thursday, September 28, 2017 08:10 AM EDT
OTTAWA — A revised oath of citizenship that will require new Canadians to faithfully observe the country’s treaties with Indigenous Peoples is nearly complete.
The proposed new text was put to focus groups held by Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada in March, following months of consultation by departmental officials.
It reads: “I swear (or affirm) that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, Queen of Canada, her heirs and successors, and that I will faithfully observe the laws of Canada including treaties with Indigenous Peoples, and fulfil my duties as a Canadian citizen.”
The language comes from the 94th and final recommendation of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, which examined the legacy of Canada’s residential schools.
Implementing that recommendation was one of the tasks given to Immigration Minister Ahmed Hussen when he was sworn into his portfolio in January 2017, but work on it began soon after the commission delivered its recommendations in late 2015, briefing notes for the minister suggest.
The notes, obtained by The Canadian Press under the Access to Information Act, show the government also wants to modify the script delivered by those who preside over citizenship ceremonies. The proposed notes say the script should refer to ceremonies taking place on traditional territories, and include remarks on the history of Indigenous Peoples.
When it comes to the oath, the inclusion of a reference to treaties is the only proposed change.
Changing the wording requires a legislative amendment to the Citizenship Act. The Liberals are currently in the process of overhauling the act in a bid to make citizenship easier to obtain.
When the proposed text was put to focus groups composed of both recent immigrants and longtime Canadian residents, reaction was generally positive, according to a report posted online by the Immigration department this week.
But there was a caveat: “Participants only agreed with the modifications insofar as newcomers are adequately educated about Indigenous Peoples and the treaties,” the report said.
“Many felt that they themselves would struggle with this new formulation, given their own limited knowledge of the treaties.”
Some wondered about the need for changes at all.
“A few participants took it upon themselves to question the need to modify the oath and that it might represent a precedent whereby other groups in Canada will want to be represented in the oath,” the report said.
The new oath comes along with a major overhaul of the study guide used for the citizenship exam. A draft copy obtained by The Canadian Press earlier this year revealed it, too, will include extensive references to Indigenous history and culture.
The Liberals had originally been aiming to unveil both the new guide and oath around Canada Day, but work is ongoing.
Treaties with Indigenous Peoples to be included in revised citizenship oath | Ca

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Double standards are good .

Wow, except for the space before the period, you've produced a four-word post with all the words spelled right and proper English grammar.

I am SO bookmarking this!

 

[Curious Cdn]

Wow, except for the space before the period, you've produced a four-word post with all the words spelled right and proper English grammar.

I am SO bookmarking this!

... and it's soooo profound, too!

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

... and it's soooo profound, too!

Baby steps. Maybe if he can learn to communicate coherently, that will encourage him to start thinking clearly. Hope springs eternal.

 

[Twin_Moose]

Are you guys allowed to own your own houses on the rez? In Canada, that's not the case, which I think is the root of a bunch of problems.

In Canada First Canadians are allowed to own their own house on the reserve just not the land it sits on, but can sign a lease for an indefinite time period at whatever rate agreed to.

Hopefully slavery of the Natives Americans will be abolished one day.

Do you not have the right to do what you please and follow whichever path you desire in this country? Even if the path you desire is for the world to change back to pre-colonialism, can you not cut a few polls and wrap some hides around it in the middle of the forest and hunt and fish at will? I even know that you can chase Buffalo again if it is the path you take. Or you are also free to take the Whities path and go to school get an education and work for your money, or get a job and through hard work carve an existence in this world like the rest of us.

 

[petros]

Free will? Nah....

 

[Jinentonix]

How about utilizing the budgets and grants that are being offered for maintenance instead of siphoning it off for zambonies, new vehicles, ATV's and such and put it toward home/water plant/sewer maintenance. Most of the communities have the proper treatment plants just no one with the proper training to run them, the training is only $1700, without the proper certification and full time tester, without the certification, even if everything is done properly and tests come back as good the water is still deemed unusable.

Well, half of that problem COULD have been solved through the Accountability Act but thanks to Trudeau, he decided those Chiefs who are corrupt needed the cash more than the rest of the FN. Trudeau is part of the f*cking problem despite his lamentations to the contrary. I'm not blaming it all in him but to scrap the Accountability Act and then whine about the treatment of Indigenous people is incredibly disingenuous.

 

[PoliticalNick]

Treaties with Indigenous Peoples to be included in revised citizenship oath
Stephanie Levitz, THE CANADIAN PRESS
First posted: Thursday, September 28, 2017 08:04 AM EDT | Updated: Thursday, September 28, 2017 08:10 AM EDT
OTTAWA — A revised oath of citizenship that will require new Canadians to faithfully observe the country’s treaties with Indigenous Peoples is nearly complete.
The proposed new text was put to focus groups held by Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada in March, following months of consultation by departmental officials.
It reads: “I swear (or affirm) that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, Queen of Canada, her heirs and successors, and that I will faithfully observe the laws of Canada including treaties with Indigenous Peoples, and fulfil my duties as a Canadian citizen.”
The language comes from the 94th and final recommendation of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, which examined the legacy of Canada’s residential schools.
Implementing that recommendation was one of the tasks given to Immigration Minister Ahmed Hussen when he was sworn into his portfolio in January 2017, but work on it began soon after the commission delivered its recommendations in late 2015, briefing notes for the minister suggest.
The notes, obtained by The Canadian Press under the Access to Information Act, show the government also wants to modify the script delivered by those who preside over citizenship ceremonies. The proposed notes say the script should refer to ceremonies taking place on traditional territories, and include remarks on the history of Indigenous Peoples.
When it comes to the oath, the inclusion of a reference to treaties is the only proposed change.
Changing the wording requires a legislative amendment to the Citizenship Act. The Liberals are currently in the process of overhauling the act in a bid to make citizenship easier to obtain.
When the proposed text was put to focus groups composed of both recent immigrants and longtime Canadian residents, reaction was generally positive, according to a report posted online by the Immigration department this week.
But there was a caveat: “Participants only agreed with the modifications insofar as newcomers are adequately educated about Indigenous Peoples and the treaties,” the report said.
“Many felt that they themselves would struggle with this new formulation, given their own limited knowledge of the treaties.”
Some wondered about the need for changes at all.
“A few participants took it upon themselves to question the need to modify the oath and that it might represent a precedent whereby other groups in Canada will want to be represented in the oath,” the report said.
The new oath comes along with a major overhaul of the study guide used for the citizenship exam. A draft copy obtained by The Canadian Press earlier this year revealed it, too, will include extensive references to Indigenous history and culture.
The Liberals had originally been aiming to unveil both the new guide and oath around Canada Day, but work is ongoing.
Treaties with Indigenous Peoples to be included in revised citizenship oath | Ca

Good thing I swore my oath back in '79 because I wouldn't say what they want today. Until someone starts to work towards me getting back my ancestoral estate and Barony in France the injuns can f^ck right off! Times change, land changes hands, get over it and get on with it.